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Maybe Netflix is coming out with new Super HD eyeIO encodes?

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Maybe Netflix is coming out with new Super HD eyeIO encodes?
If they do, I doubt it will be available on the older UI. This is why most smart TV's/BD players are dumb. They never get updated.


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If example short is not going higher then 3000 kbps, your movies are also not streaming at the higher rates. Doesn't your equipment show you the resolution? My set shows me the resolution which confirms I'm only getting 720p for all Super HD movies that I have streamed lately.

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Yes my panel shows the input resolution. I should have edited my post to say that, my apologies. Test videos were locked at 3000kbps, panel displayed 720p. All other popular 1080p TV shows and movies my panel played in and displayed 1080p. My ISP is AT&T Uverse.

I called Netflix after midnight 9/2 when the older and the more seasoned 'real world' experienced CS representatives are working, he like I played with the early internet in the late '70s. I told him that users across different devices, Smart TVs and Netflix peering ISPs had reported the similar issue. He felt my call was valid and escalated my observations to engineering.

Yesterday after 12pm-1pm my test videos increased to the Netflix 1080p HD streams of 4300kbps-5800kbps. My panel displayed the 1080p input data.

Again only the test videos were displaying the 720p data embedded on the test videos and my screen's resolution data; not the 1080p popular TV shows and movies which played in and displayed the 1080p panel data.

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Again only the test videos were displaying the 720p data embedded on the test videos and my screen's resolution data; not the 1080p popular TV shows and movies which played in and displayed the 1080p panel data.
For a 1080p TV isn't the Roku 2XS supposed to upscale everything to 1080p? If so, why would the TV show 720p?

I am actually looking for a streaming device that would output source direct/native rate so I can use my outboard scaler. I would particularly like to output 480p for SD to allow the scaler to upscale to 1080p.
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For a 1080p TV isn't the Roku 2XS supposed to upscale everything to 1080p? If so, why would the TV show 720p?

I am actually looking for a streaming device that would output source direct/native rate so I can use my outboard scaler. I would particularly like to output 480p for SD to allow the scaler to upscale to 1080p.
I don't believe Roku's can be set to upscale. Mine doesn't even display the input resolution.

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For a 1080p TV isn't the Roku 2XS supposed to upscale everything to 1080p? If so, why would the TV show 720p?

I am actually looking for a streaming device that would output source direct/native rate so I can use my outboard scaler. I would particularly like to output 480p for SD to allow the scaler to upscale to 1080p.

It cannot do that. If you set it to 1080p it will output everything as 1080p60

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I don't believe Roku's can be set to upscale. Mine doesn't even display the input resolution.

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My retired Roku 2XS would only put out 1080p at 60.00fps (not 59.94fps) using RGB into my 1080p TV.
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It cannot do that. If you set it to 1080p it will output everything as 1080p60
That is what I thought. Wondering how RRS1947 saw 720p on his TV display.
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My retired Roku 2XS would only put out 1080p at 60.00fps (not 59.94fps) using RGB into my 1080p TV.
Unfortunately, unlike DVR's and many cable/satellite set top boxes, I've yet to see an outboard streaming device that can output native only. In most cases, you will get the best PQ if you let the TV do the scaling.

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Internet Traffic Records Could Be Broken This Week

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Internet Traffic Records Could Be Broken This Week Thanks To Apple, NFL, Sony, Xbox, EA and Others

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And Dan Rayburn strikes again, offering up the compelling justification for the major ISPs to throttle data from distributors that are not owned by the ISPs themselves. If the flood of data will be extreme enough to cause slowdowns, how exactly will paying for prioritization magically alleviate the strain on those *poor* last mile providers?

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And Dan Rayburn strikes again, offering up the compelling justification for the major ISPs to throttle data from distributors that are not owned by the ISPs themselves. If the flood of data will be extreme enough to cause slowdowns, how exactly will paying for prioritization magically alleviate the strain on those *poor* last mile providers?
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Post Netflix joining the slowdown

Netflix has just joined the Sept 10th slowdown and will be displaying a prominent message on their site this Wednesday.

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As of a couple days ago I'm finally seeing dramatically increased speeds on FiOS here in N. NJ, months after the agreement. Example Short 23.976 and El Fuente: 60 MP10 now both start at 5800 kbps and stay there - even on Sat. night. Using a Roku 3, fwiw.

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Arrow How Netflix came to pay Comcast

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I hate those circle loading screens. Why because you don't know if your connection stalls or if it is doing anything. Netflix does it right by actually showing a % number.

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I hate those circle loading screens. Why because you don't know if your connection stalls or if it is doing anything. Netflix does it right by actually showing a % number.
Maybe this YouTube works better for you.


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By the way, the Netflix ISP Speed Index for August is up. U-verse rose 7 spots to #7 and FiOS, despite significant increase in average speed (from 1.6 to 2.41) only rose two spots to #10 . TWC gained in average speed, going from 2.14 to 2.59, but actually dropped two spots to #8 , being jumped over by Mediacom and U-verse.

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I think that U-verse was probably most improved, going from an average of 1.44 in July to 2.61 for August.

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So Netflix ponies up money to AT&T and suddenly they jump seven spots to a respectable 7th? And other ISPs that Netflix has paid also saw improvements. I will just say that so far Netflix performance for me as a U-verse customer has improved. I noticed that the streams get to HD and stay there during peak hours, particularly on weekends and on my TVs smart app; in the past the TV had trouble maintaining HD, often stalling at 480i...or lower. It got ugly. Thank goodness for the PS3, which has handled the streams more admirably.
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So Netflix ponies up money to AT&T and suddenly they jump seven spots to a respectable 7th? And other ISPs that Netflix has paid also saw improvements. I will just say that so far Netflix performance for me as a U-verse customer has improved. I noticed that the streams get to HD and stay there during peak hours, particularly on weekends and on my TVs smart app; in the past the TV had trouble maintaining HD, often stalling at 480i...or lower. It got ugly. Thank goodness for the PS3, which has handled the streams more admirably.
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What they needed the ISPs to do was for them to "pony up" money out of their pockets and expand their ports to allow more bandwidth through into their networks. This would of course cut into their profits, unless they were to increase what they asked us to pay for network service. Instead they got Netflix to pay them to get private direct entrance into their networks, which probably has a much greater effect than just generally expanding their ports.

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It's been a money grab by the ISP's from the get go .. the entire history of this episode in streaming / NF / ISP is reflected on this thread .. and it's funny to me that I got poo pooed for my posts when the whole story began ..

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It's been a money grab by the ISP's from the get go .. the entire history of this episode in streaming / NF / ISP is reflected on this thread .. and it's funny to me that I got poo pooed for my posts when the whole story began ..
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I think that U-verse was probably most improved, going from an average of 1.44 in July to 2.61 for August.
Ever since the agreement between AT&T and Netflix, I've had no issues streaming Super HD.
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Ever since the agreement between AT&T and Netflix, I've had no issues streaming Super HD.
Same here with TWC. I can even use my ATV3 again.

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