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post #6601 of 6608 Old 10-20-2014, 11:17 PM
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Errrr we still don't have the blacklist in 4k on Netflix in Canada, might have to trick them into thinking I'm American to view this

I am in the States, but I use a DNS spoofing service to travel the Netflix world . May I suggest Unblock-US.com or the cheaper and probably just as good AdFreeTime.com. Both are Canadian companies.

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I don't agree, I just watch Need forSpeed over iTunes HD and I forgot that it wasn't bluray, it's gotten this good. I thought House of Cards in 4k on Netflix looked better than Bluray, have you seen this yet?. My biggest hold back was audio... I've spent some good coin on my HT and if I feel Bluray has a noticeable advantage over streaming I'll stick with it, but with Cinemanow upping the game with DTS HD, which DTS says one won't Beable to tell the difference between the streaming and Bluray disc this will be killer to Bluray. I'm going to buy a player with the cineamnow app so I can test this and see if the audio streaming now matches that of the Bluray and if it does I'm going streaming.
Sorry, I assumed you were talking about 1080p streams. That being said, at normal viewing distances it's very close, but it also depends on what TV's you are using as a comparison. Since PDP technology is usually more faithful to film, a BD displayed on a set like the Panasonic VT or ZT 60 will most likely satisfy my personal tastes more then most Ultra LCD's displaying a 4k stream. According to the ISF, resolution is the least important specification when it comes to over all picture quality, so to get the best video experience, a lot of other factors have to come into play.

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Check your wifi list on your Android device even when you aren't on Chromecast. It will be listed like it is a hotspot so someone can log onto it if it loses connection with your protected network.
So if my WiFi Network goes down someone at that point could gain access to the Chromecast (but not my WiFI Network). I am not too bothered

1. My router and modem have been up for over 100 days now.
2. I am on an acre and there are no other local WiFi networks.
3. My Chromecast has been in a cupboard for the last 6 months

Even without 3 I don't think it is a big deal..... although I could also agree that security should be a higher priority with more and more connected devices in our houses.
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My protected network has not unprotected itself in, oh.. forever.
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So if my WiFi Network goes down someone at that point could gain access to the Chromecast (but not my WiFI Network). I am not too bothered

1. My router and modem have been up for over 100 days now.
2. I am on an acre and there are no other local WiFi networks.
3. My Chromecast has been in a cupboard for the last 6 months

Even without 3 I don't think it is a big deal..... although I could also agree that security should be a higher priority with more and more connected devices in our houses.
Your network doesn't have to go down, the Chromecast loses it's connection with it and then it is vulnerable. When I had some friends visiting who noted they could see my Chromecast on their Android phone wifi network lineup.

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They have different encodes for different devices. Also with DASH encoding the audio may just be one file which is synchronized with whatever video segment is currently playing.

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Which might be misconstrued to mean that every device has its own encodes, which is not true. Most devices from the past 3 years will probably use one set, with AVC video and discrete HE-AAC stereo/DD+ 5.1 surround sound, streamed with the DASH standard protocols (Dynamic Adaptive Streaming over HTTP). Apple devices use one of two sets of encodings based on Apple's HLS (HTTP Live Streaming) system, with AVC video and HE-AAC stereo/basic DD surround sound; the earlier of the two being deprecated. Anything older than 3 years will likely be using one of two sets of encodings based on VC-1 video and Windows Media Audio stereo sound.
I'm not sure if this is the same issue but found the above posts when searching for info...

My xbox 360 gets a Netflix movie as 5.1 audio but my Sony BDP-N460 blu-ray player doesn't list the same movie as 5.1. Is that normal? Is that Netflix sending different audio to different apps or something? The blu-ray is up to date with updates, I don't know if the apps themselves update on that though. On the xbox I've had to update individual apps multiple times so is it just that the Netflix app on my blu-ray is older?

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I'm not sure if this is the same issue but found the above posts when searching for info...

My xbox 360 gets a Netflix movie as 5.1 audio but my Sony BDP-N460 blu-ray player doesn't list the same movie as 5.1. Is that normal? Is that Netflix sending different audio to different apps or something? The blu-ray is up to date with updates, I don't know if the apps themselves update on that though. On the xbox I've had to update individual apps multiple times so is it just that the Netflix app on my blu-ray is older?

Your BDP first shipped at the beginning of 2009 and Netflix didn't have 5.1 sound until November of 2010 (it came with 1080p video and selectable captions/subs); I'd be extremely surprised if the Netflix app on your BDP was ever updated to support 5.1 sound. Does it list 5.1 sound for any Netflix title?

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Your BDP first shipped at the beginning of 2009 and Netflix didn't have 5.1 sound until November of 2010 (it came with 1080p video and selectable captions/subs); I'd be extremely surprised if the Netflix app on your BDP was ever updated to support 5.1 sound. Does it list 5.1 sound for any Netflix title?
I'll check. Right now I disconnected it and brought up a newer one that I had in the bedroom to check that one. It's updating "internet content" now. It's a Sony BDP-S5100. I'll check the same movie and see if it lists it at 5.1.

I would think they would just update the app though, shouldn't it be fairly easy? The player itself handles 5.1 from discs and newer players have a newer app. And this player didn't have Netflix when it shipped, it was added via update. And the xbox was ordered on 10/2/09 but they update the individual apps frequently.

Okay, so the newer player lists the movie with not only 5.1 audio, but also "Super HD" video. Guess I'll put the older one in the bedroom then since I just use the TV audio there.

Playing that movie and the audio input and output say "Dolby Digital +" and not just DD as the xbox says. What is the +? It sounds fantastic.

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I would think they would just update the app though, shouldn't it be fairly easy?

You'll rarely see an OEM add a new or greatly updated embedded app to a device more than a year after launch, which is not to say that it doesn't ever happen; I got an Amazon app update for my 2011 Panasonic BDP sometime at the end of last year, which added a completely revamped UI with support for 5.1 sound and the Watchlist feature. (While I was more actively using that BDP I kept checking after every firmware update for support for those features but had stopped, so I didn't notice that they'd added them. It was entirely by chance that I fired up that app and saw the update; they didn't mention it in the firmware update release notes).

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Playing that movie and the audio input and output say "Dolby Digital +" and not just DD as the xbox says. What is the +? It sounds fantastic.

DD+ is a more advanced encoding than basic DD which can deliver equivalent quality at less than half the bit rate, so Dolby pushes it for use in streaming app. Netflix, VUDU and M-Go use it. The problem with it is that it's not supported by older AVRs which can handle basic DD and not all devices can convert it for output (most BD players can) so if your AVR can't handle it you're SOL for discrete surround sound out of Netflix. Dolby Pro-Logic II matrixed surround survives in the stereo tracks which can sound quite good.
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Your network doesn't have to go down, the Chromecast loses it's connection with it and then it is vulnerable. When I had some friends visiting who noted they could see my Chromecast on their Android phone wifi network lineup.

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Probably better to continue in the Chromecast thread.

Maybe you could post your reply there - it seems strange your Chromecast is losing connection to your router - weak WiFi/interference?

When I was using the Chromecast it never lost connection with my Router.
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