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Syfy's Defiance is shot with 4k cameras? I'm shocked to learn that, as it's picture quality over digital cable has never looked that impressive to me. Perhaps it looks better on blu ray?
One thing producers discovered is that shooting 4K they can zoom in on shots if they need to during post. I've heard directors talk about liking that benefit on some of the commentaries.
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One thing producers discovered is that shooting 4K they can zoom in on shots if they need to during post. I've heard directors talk about liking that benefit on some of the commentaries.
I just added this to an earlier post: 5 reasons to shoot in 4k


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My set has a pixel direct setting that accepts 4:4:4 video. When viewing a BD recently, the disc info banner displayed the chroma subsampling as YCBCR 4:4:4 which is the player's current setting.
That is just the players video processor output. 8, 4:2:0 (Rec. 709) is the format on the disc and is converted by the player. The player will probably output YCbCr 4:4:4, YCbCr 4:2:2, RGB and RGB enhanced.
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One thing producers discovered is that shooting 4K they can zoom in on shots if they need to during post. I've heard directors talk about liking that benefit on some of the commentaries.
Well now that we are moving to 4k they better start shooting in 8k
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That is just the players video processor output. 8, 4:2:0 (Rec. 709) is the format on the disc and is converted by the player. The player will probably output YCbCr 4:4:4, YCbCr 4:2:2, RGB and RGB enhanced.
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4:2:0 is not compatible with HDMI so they also offer a 4:4:2 and a RGB conversion setting.
Setting my BD player to YCbCr 4:4:4 and my TV to pixel direct, seems to give me the best PQ, since my TV only has to convert 4:4:4 to RGB. If I set the player to 4:4:2, my set would have to convert it an additional step to 4:4:4 and then RGB. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe many flat panel displays are able to faithfully receive RGB direct from the BD player. Unlike a gaming console, with the RGB settings, the player would probably have to convert it back to YCbCr anyway.

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Setting my BD player to YCbCr 4:4:4 and my TV to pixel direct, seems to give me the best PQ, since my TV only has to convert 4:4:4 to RGB.
Think of it as:

HD video [Blu-ray, satellite, cable, IPTV, ATSC, etc.] (SMPTE standards*, Rec 709) = YCbCr, 16 to 235 levels (steps)

RGB (computer) = RGB, 0 to 255 levels (steps)

Blu-ray to most modern HD video monitors/TV's should be set YCbCr (4:4:4 or 4:2:2) as dictated by the monitor)

Blu-ray to most computer monitors should be set RGB

*See SMPTE 274M for details

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