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post #8491 of 8502 Old 12-08-2016, 05:23 PM
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Netflix figures that if you haven't selected something to watch within 90 seconds you'll stop using their app and look for some other diversion. Auto-start is part of their campaign to get you engaged in something.

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On the same front, they posted this about their new "video preview" feature on their blog. It runs a little trailer under the description in the top area when you select a title. I haven't seen this yet.

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I'd forgotten this, but you can completely opt out of Netflix testing at this page. It doesn't stop them from changing your UI when they decide to broadly launch a new feature or features but it's protection from being in an A/B testing group and getting new features that they're just testing out.

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I'd forgotten this, but you can completely opt out of Netflix testing at this page. It doesn't stop them from changing your UI when they decide to broadly launch a new feature or features but it's protection from being in an A/B testing group and getting new features that they're just testing out.
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I'm not sure if it always did it, but if I start the next episode after the screen switches to that mini-display with the next episode highlighted, it will start the next episode and skip any logo opening. For example, "Earth 2" has the Universal fanfare before the start of each episode. With 'auto-play', it skips over that to the real beginning (about 15-20 seconds.) If I just simply start an episode, then you see the fanfare.

I can also add that the newest Netflix UI has infected my Sony BDP-S5500. No more mini-diagnostics screen, just like what happened on my Roku a few weeks ago.

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I'm one of those weirdos who often is looking for information in the end credits maybe someone I recognized in the cast so get annoyed when those wind up in an unreadable box in the upper left. Yup, I've looked for ways to to turn those off. I see the Roku TV Hulu app got updated and it will show the next episode in the upper right with a countdown.
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I'm one of those weirdos who often is looking for information in the end credits maybe someone I recognized in the cast so get annoyed when those wind up in an unreadable box in the upper left. Yup, I've looked for ways to to turn those off.
For that, you're stuck highlighting the video window and clicking on it to return to fullscreen and rewinding...There's no reason to deny users the ability to shut off this sort of interference. I have an older blu ray player, with the old UI, and enjoy using it from time to time, just to avoid end credit squash.

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I just noticed that the FTV Stick and TiVo have a new variant of the Netflix UI which makes stopping it much more complicated (OK/SEL, UP, UP, LEFT, OK/SEL); it also removes access to the debug stream info overlay, at least through the known remote key.

This variant has spread like a virus through my devices and is now on this smart TV, my Roku Premiere+, my TiVo Bolt and my Fire TV Stick; it is not on my Roku 3, TiVo Premiere, Xbox One S or Xbox 360 (though I don't know how they'd implement it on the consoles, since the control scheme is somewhat different; you hit the B button to stop playback and go back to the description and click the right stick to display the debug display, a key rarely used even in games). Given this rapid spread I have to think that they're distributing it widely and that it will be permanent. No more access to the debug stream info display on probably most devices.

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That little 3 element menu appear in the upper left hand corner when you press UP. When you press DOWN the same thing appears with a time line at the bottom, without the "Audio & Subtitle" button below it; the button that used to bring up the debug stream info display does nothing, except on Roku, where it brings up the system's audio & subtitle menu. The menu elements are, from right to left, "Exit", "Audio & Subtitles" (right hand menu shown in the picture) and "Play From Beginning".

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Netflix figures that if you haven't selected something to watch within 90 seconds you'll stop using their app and look for some other diversion. Auto-start is part of their campaign to get you engaged in something.
I personally find that annoying as hell .. and have since the day they started it some time back ..
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This variant has spread like a virus through my devices and is now on this smart TV, my Roku Premiere+, my TiVo Bolt and my Fire TV Stick; it is not on my Roku 3, TiVo Premiere, Xbox One S or Xbox 360 (though I don't know how they'd implement it on the consoles, since the control scheme is somewhat different; you hit the B button to stop playback and go back to the description and click the right stick to display the debug display, a key rarely used even in games). Given this rapid spread I have to think that they're distributing it widely and that it will be permanent. No more access to the debug stream info display on probably most devices.

Westly-C posted a picture of it another thread:

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That little 3 element menu appear in the upper left hand corner when you press UP. When you press DOWN the same thing appears with a time line at the bottom, without the "Audio & Subtitle" button below it; the button that used to bring up the debug stream info display does nothing, except on Roku, where it brings up the system's audio & subtitle menu. The menu elements are, from right to left, "Exit", "Audio & Subtitles" (right hand menu shown in the picture) and "Play From Beginning".
And now it's back on my Roku 3600R. I've also noticed that Netflix's speed test is now only showing 25 megs on my quad core 3600 and less then 10 on my single core 3500? (I was getting near 40 megs and 18 megs respectively two days ago). I've confirmed that I'm averaging close to 70 megs on my Roku speed test channel servers for the 3600 and around 35 megs on the slower 3500. My PC's browser also averages around 70, which is my current ISP plan with Optimum an open connect partner. You would think my Netflix speeds would be higher then that. However, I haven't experienced any issues with PQ.

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I get 140-160mbps down on fast.com with my iphone on wifi and the xbox one S, which is Netflix's site, yet my Roku Ultra only reports about 35-45mbps on the Netflix app.

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How is the 4K SDR and 4K HDR picture quality and up to 4K HDR thru-put reliability on the Roku Premier + and Ultra as compared to a decent 4K HDR extender or specifically the 2015-2016 Sony XBR 4K HDR Andoid TV Netflix and Amazon apps ?

I have 2720 Roku 2 and it plays 1080p well and reliably bit-steams 5.1 .

The last Sony TV Android Marshmallow 6.0.1 update this week is giving us drama on the Netflix and Amazon apps ,transient lip sync issues and randomly no 5.1 in Netflix at all .

Sony usually takes eons to fix anthing like that .

I'm thinking about A Roku Premier + if the 4K SDR and HDR are decent in it ,I can move this 2720 Roku 2 to a room with a 1080p set here

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I get 140-160mbps down on fast.com with my iphone on wifi and the xbox one S, which is Netflix's site, yet my Roku Ultra only reports about 35-45mbps on the Netflix app.
I get better results on the Roku speed app from a Chicago server 750 miles away. I believe the Netflix app is nuts.

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