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post #901 of 6044 Old 11-30-2010, 01:36 PM
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Where do you get to the trailers from? I access Vudo from my Samsung TV but assume there's a way to get to the trailers from there too.

One of the headings under "New On VUDU" (or whatever) is "New Trailers". It's all trailers for not-yet-released or still-in-theaters stuff. In the PS3 player, once the one you chose finishes, it automatically goes on to the next.

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So I guess Level 3's argument really just depends on which side of this they're on for a given discussion. Clearly their words in one case completely contradict what they said in another. Nice....
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One of the headings under "New On VUDU" (or whatever) is "New Trailers". It's all trailers for not-yet-released or still-in-theaters stuff. In the PS3 player, once the one you chose finishes, it automatically goes on to the next.


That's also how it works with my other VUDU enabled devices. The application seems identical in each device I've used with VUDU.

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Just a suggestion: Since this is a NetFlix PQ thread, why don't you guys take your Vudu chat somewhere else, like one of the many Vudu threads? Such as this one.
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It appears that Silverlight 5 will be; finally, bring proper H.264 GPU accelerated video. MS will release this version on the 2nd half of next year (bummer).
We will have to wait to get a pleasant Netflix experience until then...
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http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/future/
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...till-vague.ars
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awesome

but my HD Netflix already looks good on my computer?
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It appears that Silverlight 5 will be; finally, bring proper H.264 GPU accelerated video. MS will release this version on the 2nd half of next year (bummer).
We will have to wait to get a pleasant Netflix experience until then...
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http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/future/
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...till-vague.ars
I was not aware that Neflix was using Silverlight. Can you please elaborate?
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I was not aware that Neflix was using Silverlight. Can you please elaborate?
Netflix moved to Silverlight for their PC streaming a little over two years ago. Before that, their streaming system was based on WMV, so it made perfect sense for them to stick with a Microsoft solution.
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The tech industry works via "partnerships" and I would suspect that Microsoft had a lot to do with this. At least they seem to realize the potential for online streaming services while companies like Comcast were asleep at the wheel.
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Netflix moved to Silverlight for their PC streaming a little over two years ago. Before that, their streaming system was based on WMV, so it made perfect sense for them to stick with a Microsoft solution.

According to a piece that I read written by some MS media tech honcho (I've linked to it multiple times in these forums but I do not feel like hunting it down), Netflix did not use IIS Smooth Streaming in that PC player, but some adaptive rate streaming mechanism that they wrote themselves. Smooth Streaming support is a tiny, tiny bit of Silverlight, which is Microsoft's answer to Adobe's Flash product. Using Silverlight for the framework of that player did not require using IIS Smooth Streaming.

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All I can say is that I'm glad I don't have to launch ie in order to stream a movie. I can at least use firefox. Of course now when watching through my pc, WMC7 has the slickest interface I've seen, and I use that most of the time.

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6 of one... bottom line is that Netflix on the PS3 is crippled, in my opinion, by the forced 1080p output, and while I have not tried the Vudu app myself I guess Aaron is saying the problem occurs there as well. I'm still not convinced that any Netflix streaming content is actually encoded at 1080p.

A native option would definitely be nice.

I use a DVDO Edge to upconvert to a 65vt25; so I definitely need the PS3 to output the native resolution. Therefore, I determine what the movie will be (480i/p or 720p) and change the PS3 setup accordingly for what my display can accept. Bottom line: I force what I want. It's a "pain"; but worth it for what I see with the DVDO and a 65" plasma.
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I use a DVDO Edge to upconvert to a 65vt25; so I definitely need the PS3 to output the native resolution. Therefore, I determine what the movie will be (480i/p or 720p) and change the PS3 setup accordingly for what my display can accept. Bottom line: I force what I want. It's a "pain"; but worth it for what I see with the DVDO and a 65" plasma.

I use a DVDO VP30 myself, so I definitely prefer my video sources, and apps, to output natively so I can utilize the superior video processing of the DVDO unit over what ever is being used in the source device.
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Just finished watching Flame and Citron via PS3 and the video quality was outstanding, not as good as Blu-ray of course, but without question much better than DVD. Incredible sharpness and detail throughout the film, not perfect, but certainly a showcase for Netflix streaming.

Very good film as well, this is one that I would have watched regardless of the video quality, so having the excellent video it did have was a major plus.

Display button reports it as X-HD with stereo audio.
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I just noticed Netflix has three 23.976 instant watch samples on their site. Just search for 23.976.

Thank you for posting about this. The 3:2 or whatever judder / stutter issues in their selections has been bugging me for a while. Of course it doesn't stop me from using it, but it does stop me from considering a streaming-only plan.
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Have any professionals done a side-by-side analysis to address the pq question regarding streaming 720p vs streaming 1080p from the same service?

On the right size 1080p display, will we see a difference?

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Have any professionals done a side-by-side analysis to address the pq question regarding streaming 720p vs streaming 1080p from the same service?

On the right size 1080p display, will we see a difference?

I am definitely not a pro, but I noticed a big difference in The Good, The Bad, The Weird between my PS3 and my 360. Even though I don't know for sure if it's a 1080p title, it is in 5.1, and I have been going with the "5.1 titles are also 1080p" theory, so I am guessing it was 1080p on the PS3 and 720p on the 360.

Of course, that really means nothing....I think there are different encodes for different devices, which could easily explain the difference.

Really, you'd have to somehow get a 720p title on the PS3 running side by side with the same 1080p title. Since there is no way to force a 720p stream of a 1080p title on the PS3 (or identify which one you are getting), I'm not sure a valid comparison is even possible. About the best you could do is stream the same title (something you assume is 1080p) through both the PS3 and a different device, and any differences could be attributed to the device itself or the encode (if different devices receive different encodes).
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Have any professionals done a side-by-side analysis to address the pq question regarding streaming 720p vs streaming 1080p from the same service?

On the right size 1080p display, will we see a difference?

You said "a service", not specifically Netflix? That comparison could be made, with VUDU streams, though I'm not sure that anyone has done it. You could order the same film in HD (720p) and HDX (1080p) on two different side-by-side screens and compare. Though I can't find any article online where someone describes having done this, professional AV tech reviewers have gushed over the PQ of VUDU HDX.

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I don't think anyone is deluding themselves to thinking that a 1080p Netflix encode is of as high quality as an HDX Vudu encode - but they can both be 1080p. The difference is NF is all you can eat, and Vudu is pay per view.
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And of course Vudu will have most movies long before Netflix will get them plus movies released in theaters (mainly indies).
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I need a little help guys, I just activated my ps3 netflix, after watching on my 360 all this time and I immediately found the picture to be better, but I have yet to see 5.1? I tried the good the bad and the wierd like the above poster mentioned, but it only shows stereo and a medium/hd in my onscreen info. BTW, I'm running an integra processor and 7.1 surround and a panasonic projector with a 8 meg connection speed.

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I need a little help guys, I just activated my ps3 netflix, after watching on my 360 all this time and I immediately found the picture to be better, but I have yet to see 5.1? I tried the good the bad and the wierd like the above poster mentioned, but it only shows stereo and a medium/hd in my onscreen info. BTW, I'm running an integra processor and 7.1 surround and a panasonic projector with a 8 meg connection speed.
Not sure about the video, sounds like it might be a bandwidth issue, but for the audio did you select the 5.1 option before playing? If I recall, there's an option for stereo and right below it is 5.1. You have to actually select it, I don't believe it defaults, at least it didn't when I watched the film.
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I need a little help guys, I just activated my ps3 netflix, after watching on my 360 all this time and I immediately found the picture to be better, but I have yet to see 5.1? I tried the good the bad and the wierd like the above poster mentioned, but it only shows stereo and a medium/hd in my onscreen info. BTW, I'm running an integra processor and 7.1 surround and a panasonic projector with a 8 meg connection speed.

Yes, it defaults to stereo. When you select the title, you have to go to "Audio" or "Audio and Captions" and select the 5.1 track before starting to play it. There are several versions of the Netflix app, but the process should be similar on all of them.

When you have a title highlighted in the app (at least the version of the app I have) it will tell you if the title is in HD and if there's 5.1, there will also be an indicator for that.
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Yes, it defaults to stereo. When you select the title, you have to go to "Audio" or "Audio and Captions" and select the 5.1 track before starting to play it. There are several versions of the Netflix app, but the process should be similar on all of them.

When you have a title highlighted in the app (at least the version of the app I have) it will tell you if the title is in HD and if there's 5.1, there will also be an indicator for that.

Is 5.1 only supported on the PS3 app? I have a new Samsung TV with the Netflix app built-in and it would be great to get the 5.1 on it.
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Is 5.1 only supported on the PS3 app? I have a new Samsung TV with the Netflix app built-in and it would be great to get the 5.1 on it.

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Is 5.1 only supported on the PS3 app? I have a new Samsung TV with the Netflix app built-in and it would be great to get the 5.1 on it.

Currently yes. The PS3 is also the only one doing 1080p.
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Is 5.1 only supported on the PS3 app? I have a new Samsung TV with the Netflix app built-in and it would be great to get the 5.1 on it.

this article claims AppleTV supports 5.1 also:
http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/...ce-or-quality/
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