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Edit: I should mention one other thing. My BD390 will do p24 out on P24 Netflix material (albeit using 720P source) - the ROKU always seems to output p60 irrespective of the source frame rate. I would really like to see 1080P24 out for p24 material. That said if they fix the black level I will probably take 1080 and 5.1 from the ROKU vs P24 out from the BD390

I also have a BD-550 LG Blu-ray player (2010 model). I can put it in 24 fps mode but it always displays Netflix in 24 fps regardless of whether or not the title was encoded that way. I have the same issue on the Boxee as well. I'm surprised since the Boxee has an option to match refresh rate to the source material. I don't know if it's an issue with my TV (Samsung 850 LCD). It supports both 24, 30 and 60 fps at 1080p so I was a bit baffled?

Hmmm, as I am writing this, it just occurred to me what the problem might be. Netflix HD streams on most players are 720p including the LG and Boxee. I have my Boxee set up for 1080P. So, the Boxee is probably taking the 720P Netflix stream and upconverting it to 1080P/60fps.

Switching the display to 720P won't help since my TV only supports 60 fps at that resolution.

It also appears neither 1080P netflix device (roku 2 and PS3), can output 24 fps in Netflix. Bummer. So much for streaming nirvana.

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The slightly newer LG BD600 series properly handles 24 and 60 fps netflix streams, playing both back at the native framerate. But you're right, no player currently supports netflix at 1080p24. We are currently forced to choose between devices that support 1080p60 or 720p24.
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The slightly newer LG BD600 series properly handles 24 and 60 fps netflix streams, playing both back at the native framerate. But you're right, no player currently supports netflix at 1080p24. We are currently forced to choose between devices that support 1080p60 or 720p24.

What 1080P60 streams? They should all be 1080P24.1080P60 should take up too much bandwidth.

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What 1080P60 streams? They should all be 1080P24.1080P60 should take up too much bandwidth.

Oops, that should have been 1080p30 and 720p24. I'm so used to verifying the framerate by looking at the vertical refresh rate on my projector. 30 fps streams are displayed at 60hz. You are correct, there are no 60fps streams.

24fps is only used when the source material is 24fps. Programming originally shot on film is typically 24fps, and includes most movies and the more expensive, scripted prime-time TV shows. Programming shot on video is typically 30fps (in north America).

If I remember correctly, 25fps material from PAL countries is mostly encoded at 30fps.

To summarize, netflix delivers each stream at at 24 or 30 fps. There are some netflix streaming devices that output these native frame rates at 720p24 or 720p60. However the players capable of 1080 cannot output at 24p.
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So what's the consensus here on the best Blu-ray player with a Netflix app? I need to get my parents one. I was going to get them a Roku2, but figured they being non-techy, they'd probably just rather have fewer boxes.

They do not have a 5.1 system, with no plans to get one, so that doesn't really matter to them.

They also will probably need it to be wireless. I don't think I can (easily) get a cable over to their TV area.

I admit I'm too lazy to dig back through this thread.
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So what's the consensus here on the best Blu-ray player with a Netflix app? I need to get my parents one. I was going to get them a Roku2, but figured they being non-techy, they'd probably just rather have fewer boxes.

They do not have a 5.1 system, with no plans to get one, so that doesn't really matter to them.

They also will probably need it to be wireless. I don't think I can (easily) get a cable over to their TV area.

I admit I'm too lazy to dig back through this thread.

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Oops, that should have been 1080p30 and 720p24. I'm so used to verifying the framerate by looking at the vertical refresh rate on my projector. 30 fps streams are displayed at 60hz. You are correct, there are no 60fps streams.

24fps is only used when the source material is 24fps. Programming originally shot on film is typically 24fps, and includes most movies and the more expensive, scripted prime-time TV shows. Programming shot on video is typically 30fps (in north America).

If I remember correctly, 25fps material from PAL countries is mostly encoded at 30fps.

To summarize, netflix delivers each stream at at 24 or 30 fps. There are some netflix streaming devices that output these native frame rates at 720p24 or 720p60. However the players capable of 1080 cannot output at 24p.

While Netflix does send out 24 fps and 30 fps streams, the Roku 2 and the PS3 output them all at 30 fps (1080p/60Hz) from what I have seen. If there's a way to have either one of them display 24 fps, please share! Thanks.
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I think my LG BD390 will output at 1080P24. But the setting sends everything at that framerate.

Edit: I guess that really doesn't matter since the BD390 doesn't play the 1080P streams, just the 720P and lower.

the Roku2 and PS3 will only send the content out at 1080P60.

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I think my LG BD390 will output at 1080P24. But the setting sends everything at that framerate.

Edit: I guess that really doesn't matter since the BD390 doesn't play the 1080P streams, just the 720P and lower.

the Roku2 and PS3 will only send the content out at 1080P60.

I guess we can hope for firmware upgrades The PS3 should be able to do it in theory. Don't know about the Roku 2.
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Did they ever fix the current Netflix audio issue with the PS3?

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I think my LG BD390 will output at 1080P24. But the setting sends everything at that framerate.

Edit: I guess that really doesn't matter since the BD390 doesn't play the 1080P streams, just the 720P and lower.

the Roku2 and PS3 will only send the content out at 1080P60.

I go through the effort of changing PS3 setup (video output for what my TV is capable of receiving) to ensure PS3 outputs actual netflix resolution (480p, 720p, or 1080P). I would much rather have my VP (Edge) upconvert to 1080p than have it done by the PS3. The one minute it takes to do this, pays significant video quality dividends throughout the movie.
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Ok I actually have an anthum d2v which has a great scaler. I do not care about the output as long as it is as good as what is coming in. My d2v will scale.

What I do care about is a good interface and a big cash. I just wish I could ff and rewind well with Netflix. The catching is way to slow and I am hardwired to a gig switch.

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Ok I actually have an anthum d2v which has a great scaler. I do not care about the output as long as it is as good as what is coming in. My d2v will scale.

What I do care about is a good interface and a big cash. I just wish I could ff and rewind well with Netflix. The catching is way to slow and I am hardwired to a gig switch.

It seems to work very well with the Roku 2 for FF/REW.

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Ok I actually have an anthum d2v which has a great scaler. I do not care about the output as long as it is as good as what is coming in. My d2v will scale.

With adaptive bit rate streaming, that ain't what's gonna happen. You can set a maximum resolution, but if it's playing something encoded in a resolution below that maximum, the device will internally scale it. The reason for that is there are encodings in potentially three different resolutions (480p, 720p, 1080p) and it will switch up and down through them to compensate if bandwidth on your connection to Netflix's servers fluctuates. Your fancy outboard scaler may be able to handle those resolution switches without a bobble, but Joe Average isn't going to have one. My 4 y/o Mitsubishi Diamond LCD panel takes a second to deal with a switch in input resolution and what it displays while it's switching is not pretty. My bet is that many affordable televisions would have the same slow reaction to switches.

The players could at least detect the maximum resolution available for the title and switch to that before starting to play; that'd be good for 480p and for devices which can't play the 1080p encodings. But as far as I can tell the vast majority of titles on Netflix which have 720p encodings have a 1080p one as well.

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Did they ever fix the current Netflix audio issue with the PS3?

Curious, What audio issue with the PS3? My fat ps3 died and I replaced it with a roku2 because I didnt want to spend 300 on a 1080p 5.1 player. And the fact that it takes 1.21 jigawatts to run and that it won't work every other week when PSN gets hacked.

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Curious, What audio issue with the PS3? My fat ps3 died and I replaced it with a roku2 because I didnt want to spend 300 on a 1080p 5.1 player. And the fact that it takes 1.21 jigawatts to run and that it won't work every other week when PSN gets hacked.

I was sending out 7.1 over HDMI whether the audio track was 2.0 or 5.1. So you couldn't apply any post processing so for 2.0 audio you only had sound from the FL/FR and with 5.1 audio was missing sound from the two surround back channels.
It only affected the Netflix application. VUDU and Hulu+ were still fine.

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Quite a few new streamers are being announced this week (forget which trade show is going on) so hopefully more of them will offer Netflix 1080p/5.1DD+. I'm also hoping a few of them will offer 24p.

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Quite a few new streamers are being announced this week (forget which trade show is going on) so hopefully more of them will offer Netflix 1080p/5.1DD+. I'm also hoping a few of them will offer 24p.
It was the CEDIA show in Indianapolis. I just got back from and saw lots of great stuff.

There were some new streaming devices at the show like the Sony SMP-N200. Unfortunately, it wasn't hooked up so we couldn't play with it.

Many of the current Netflix devices on the market today are capable of 1080P and DD+. It's Netflix that determines who gets it and when. There weren't any announcements around this at the show (Netflix wasn't there) but Netflix has said that more 1080P enabled devices are coming.
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It's Netflix that determines who gets it and when. There weren't any announcements around this at the show (Netflix wasn't there) but Netflix has said that more 1080P enabled devices are coming.
I can understand a temporary exclusivity deal like they seemed to have for the Playstation 3, but once they made it available to others you'd think that they'd have to make it available to all. Anything else seems like potential restraint of trade. I'm sure that it's an effective sales bullet-point for a substantial percentage of streaming device buyers. If they charged OEMs a premium for their devices to have access to those streams I can see how that might also be allowable, but again that offer should have to be available to all of the OEMs simultaneously. Playing favorites with Roku seems wrong and potentially actionable.

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I can understand a temporary exclusivity deal like they seemed to have for the Playstation 3, but once they made it available to others you'd think that they'd have to make it available to all. Anything else seems like potential restraint of trade. I'm sure that it's an effective sales bullet-point for a substantial percentage of streaming device buyers. If they charged OEMs a premium for their devices to have access to those streams I can see how that might also be allowable, but again that offer should have to be available to all of the OEMs simultaneously. Playing favorites with Roku seems wrong and potentially actionable.

Well, Sony's NMP-200 should support Netflix 1080p/5.1 but as a network media player it looks pretty weak so I don't think I'd be interested in it.

Sybas has their new Popbox V8 coming to the US next month and it supports apps, but since the original Popbox never got Netflix, I don't expect it to have it either.

As for the other streaming devices, I haven't heard of any that are app based.

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Will get another PS3 for my media room since seems everything else is playing catching up to it. I bought apple tv and it's nice for airstreaming from iPhone and YouTube is decent, but it's no PS3 in Netflix and got no hulu.
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I can understand a temporary exclusivity deal like they seemed to have for the Playstation 3, but once they made it available to others you'd think that they'd have to make it available to all. Anything else seems like potential restraint of trade. I'm sure that it's an effective sales bullet-point for a substantial percentage of streaming device buyers. If they charged OEMs a premium for their devices to have access to those streams I can see how that might also be allowable, but again that offer should have to be available to all of the OEMs simultaneously. Playing favorites with Roku seems wrong and potentially actionable.

There is another possibility. It could be that the Netflix's infrastructure can't handle the load. Both 1080P and DD+ require additional bandwidth. Maybe we just have to wait for them to build out more infrastructure. Then again, it could be a combination of infrastructure and "deals" with OEMs.
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There is another possibility. It could be that the Netflix's infrastructure can't handle the load. Both 1080P and DD+ require additional bandwidth. Maybe we just have to wait for them to build out more infrastructure. Then again, it could be a combination of infrastructure and "deals" with OEMs.

That's my guess as well. A slow rollout allows them to build out the infrastructure and iron out bugs (or performance issues) that come up. I am a bit surprised we're nearly at a year though since it came out for the PS3 and it's only available on one additional device. That is a pretty slow rollout.

There may also be licensing issues where they have to prove to the studios that the stream cannot be ripped from an individual device before they will allow the higher-quality streams (just a thought I had...not sure if it has any truth in it or not)
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That's my guess as well. A slow rollout allows them to build out the infrastructure and iron out bugs (or performance issues) that come up. I am a bit surprised we're nearly at a year though since it came out for the PS3 and it's only available on one additional device. That is a pretty slow rollout.

There may also be licensing issues where they have to prove to the studios that the stream cannot be ripped from an individual device before they will allow the higher-quality streams (just a thought I had...not sure if it has any truth in it or not)

There might be something to what you are saying about securing the content. There was TI press release for a new Android chip set that supports Netflix 1080P. In that release they emphasized how the video stream was secure.

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That's my guess as well. A slow rollout allows them to build out the infrastructure and iron out bugs (or performance issues) that come up. I am a bit surprised we're nearly at a year though since it came out for the PS3 and it's only available on one additional device. That is a pretty slow rollout.

Given the number of Netflix outages, I guess I'm not surprised at the slow roll out.
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My theory is that the hold-up is related to DRM. The code base and chipset must support the DRM which is likely stipulated in contracts between netflix and copyright owners. For instance, if silverlight is required, imagine how the contractual wrangling needed. The DCMA prohibits reverse engineering...

Can anyone speak to the exact DRM involved, who owns the code that can decrypt, and which chipsets are currently and/or technically capable?
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Sony's new SMP-N200 streaming device seems to offer pretty much all the premium services OOTB. Now we have to see if it supports 1080p/5.1DD+ (and possibly 24p).

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Sony's new SMP-N200 streaming device seems to offer pretty much all the premium services OOTB. Now we have to see if it supports 1080p/5.1DD+ (and possibly 24p).

Yes, it does seem to have it all: Netflix, Amazon, VUDU. Did you order one? I am so tempted .

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Yes, it does seem to have it all: Netflix, Amazon, VUDU. Did you order one? I am so tempted .

Not yet. Even though it's available now through SonyStyle.com someone apparently ordered one and Netflix won't even be activated on the box until Oct 10th.

If I do order one I'll probably order it through somewhere like Amazon where I can return it if I don't like it.

If it doesn't have 1080p/5.1DD+ Netflix I'm not going to bother with it at all. I'm pretty sure the box supports DD+ as the specs list TrueHD decoding (currently no DTS-MA support).

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Isn't the Sony Box only $80 and has wired and wireless? If so and it has all those services that sounds like a great deal

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