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try this it's showing here and in your quote as well in all 3 browsers here :
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That's exactly how I feel, and looks like, 24/7
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I wasn't thinking of me, but of some friends. ...Me, I don't stream, and will probably never. ...I'm just too anchored with Blu-rays, and my Internet speed is less than 1 Mbps (Download).

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That's exactly how I feel, and looks like, 24/7

No surprise with 1 mbps download............. Is that the new "Obama Broadband" </sarcasm>

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No surprise with 1 mbps download............. Is that the new "Obama Broadband" </sarcasm>
In Canada we don't have the "Obama High-Speed Internet", we have "Cold Speed Igloo Microwave Band". ...Comes with a free scarf and a toque.
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In Canada we don't have the "Obama High-Speed Internet", we have "Cold Speed Igloo Microwave Band". ...Comes with a free scarf and a toque.
Youse guys cant tap into NORAD or sometghing ?

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No, that's why we hang around @ AVS; and learn from you guys. ...Windows 10, OLED, 4K Blu-ray coming up, 3D extinction from Disney, Atmos vs DTS:X ... steaming and buffering, AOL, ...and all that jazz ♪
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I believe you meant 5.2 Mbps (not 6.2)? ...Or unless it is different in the USA as compared to in Canada?

No difference that I'm aware of. 5800 Kbps best-quality 1080p video + 192 Kbps DD+ = 5992 Kbps + 20% headroom to keep the buffer topped off = 7.2 Mbps (I was wrong, in the other direction).

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...Because you guys have also more choices (more titles). ...And in 4K and in 3D too.

I don't know about 3D (you can't see the list in the Netflix browser unless you have a 3D TV which I don't), but there is a small selection of 4K titles available in Canada, being 3 "Netflix Original" series (House of Cards, Marco Polo, Bloodline), Breaking Bad and four "Moving Art" nature shorts.

The Canada region Netflix library is smaller than that for the US, but it often features several big recent release titles that the US library does not, due to exclusivity deals with all of the premium cable sevices here (HBO, Showtime, Starz, Cinemax, etc). Right now I notice Transformers Age of Extinction and Rio 2 (both only available in the Canada region). I use a DNS spoofing service based in Canada (adfreetime.com, $2/month) to access the Netflix libraries of other regions and moreflicks.com to search all of those libraries simultaneously.

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I had to read the whole thread to understand that my best bet to have both netflix and amazon 1080p 5.1 dd+ 24p without having to subscribe to tivo was a samsung player and it was hell to read the whole information available on the net to find out which was the cheapest device of the samsung series to perform all that. I was going to go with h5500 but I found out just in time about the its lack of smarthub apps (saved 80 bucks) and got the h6500 instead
Actually the h5500 has Netflix and can do 24p if you played a disc or file in that format before launching the app; however it won't auto-switch fps based on content so not good. What about h6500 (or f6500) ? If it does, is it reasonably fast for Netflix use?
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Nope--haven't made that comparison. It takes too long to switch inputs from my PC to the Roku.

The one advantage of the Win8 app over the Netflix web site player is that the app can output bitstreamed DD+ if you have HDMI sound output on your PC (which I do). I don't know why no one seems to have ever made a browser extension for doing that.
Netflix 5800kbps on the PS4 looks the best too bad it drops down to that godawful 235kbp 240p crap due to a stupid bug in the app that I can't find crap about online. Netflix on the ATV3 at 5800kbps also looks the best too. The Fire TV looks great too except I see the colors a bit more brighter. The Roku 3 I think looks the worse too me it is a very dark image which washes out the colors. So the Fire TV is brighter and the Roku 3 is darker. Now when it comes to playing SD content which is at 1750kbps the ATV3 and Fire TV looks just like DVD according to the source.

Also forgot to say for sound quality the ATV3 has the best sound as the other devices sound a bit more flat.

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h6500 is what i use and works flawlessly lest the uncapability of re-encoding the audio to dts or dolby when playing content other than discs. I had to use an optical cable to get dolby from netflix sources because the device sends dd+ over hdmi which my receiver does not appreciate
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h6500 is what i use and works flawlessly lest the uncapability of re-encoding the audio to dts or dolby when playing content other than discs. I had to use an optical cable to get dolby from netflix sources because the device sends dd+ over hdmi which my receiver does not appreciate
Thank you for the feedback, I just ordered one (less than 100€ on amazon.de)
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No difference that I'm aware of. 5800 Kbps best-quality 1080p video + 192 Kbps DD+ = 5992 Kbps + 20% headroom to keep the buffer topped off = 7.2 Mbps (I was wrong, in the other direction).
• Thx Michael; it was the "headroom" that I wasn't aware of. ...Best 1080p with DD+ 5.1 = 7.2Mbps ... Got that now.

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I don't know about 3D (you can't see the list in the Netflix browser unless you have a 3D TV which I don't), but there is a small selection of 4K titles available in Canada, being 3 "Netflix Original" series (House of Cards, Marco Polo, Bloodline), Breaking Bad and four "Moving Art" nature shorts.

The Canada region Netflix library is smaller than that for the US, but it often features several big recent release titles that the US library does not, due to exclusivity deals with all of the premium cable sevices here (HBO, Showtime, Starz, Cinemax, etc). Right now I notice Transformers Age of Extinction and Rio 2 (both only available in the Canada region). I use a DNS spoofing service based in Canada (adfreetime.com, $2/month) to access the Netflix libraries of other regions and moreflicks.com to search all of those libraries simultaneously.
• Interesting, between different parts of North America.
...Different "steam" in the air ...cooler and colder here up North, across the great divide (borderline).

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• Thx Michael; it was the "headroom" that I wasn't aware of.

Say you have a bucket with a hole in the bottom of it just big enough to let through the desired flow of fluid. If you start fluid flowing into the top of that bucket at just the desired rate then you get what you want out of the bottom but the bucket never fills. If the incoming flow decreases then you won't get the desired flow rate out of the bottom. If you pour fluid into the top of the bucket at a higher rate than it can flow through the hole, the bucket will fill with the excess; if the flow rate decreases to be less than desired, the amount accumulated in the bucket will keep the flow coming out of the hole in the bottom at full force, until the excess drains away. The hope is that any momentary decrease in incoming flow will not last long enough to let the bucket empty out.

The "bucket" is the buffer in the player and the "fluid" is the media stream coming from the network into your device. The bandwidth "headroom" represents the amount over the desired "flow rate" that you need to make sure that the bucket (buffer) stays full, against the possibility of a momentary decrease in flow from the network. In practice, the buffer is filled before it starts playing (the hole is covered until the bucket fills up), video is played from the buffer until it reaches some level (the hole is uncovered and fluid is allowed to drain from it without pouring more in) then it fills the buffer up again as fast as it can while continuing to play from the buffer (the flow into the top of the bucket is turned on at its maximum available rate until the bucket fills again).

Not all devices use that buffering strategy, but it's common. Graphed, it looks like this:

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Wow, cannot be more fluid than that. ...Just like clean steam, or the river's stream.
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Now that you mention it ,it could be the same on the Roku Fox Now channel with Dish maybe I forgot , s.... I can't remember what I had for breakfast today ☺

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