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post #541 of 1305 Old 11-01-2011, 06:06 AM
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Okay Sony-fanboy--lemme give you a little history lesson . On 19 November 2008 one of the first embedded Netflix players launched on the Xbox, as announced in July, available with the "New Xbox Experience" fall dashboard update; Roku shipped their first Netflix player in May 2008, LG and Samsung had BD products with Netflix out in October and TiVo's player went live in December 2008 (and hasn't really been changed since ). They made some sort of console exclusivity deal with Microsoft, so they didn't launch a player for the PS3 until about a year later and then only as a BD disc app; a Wii disc shipped 5 months after that in April 2010. The installed PS3 player that we have today didn't appear until mid-October last year, presumably because MS' exclusivity deal ran out.

When Netflix went about lining up embedded platforms, they started with one of the consoles--hardly an "afterthougt"; there are WI players on hundreds of devices since then, but the Xbox 360 was one of the first 5, and apparently their 2nd OEM partner after Roku. There were 10s of million of Xbox 360s in US homes in 2008, being 3 years on the market, representing by far the largest number of potential customers--they couldn't go on any other devices with a significant installed base except for TiVo and the other consoles, and they had a deal in place with MS which kept them off of those for a while. If Amazon has intentionally been ignoring the consoles, they're idiots; to me it seems more likely that the console manufacturers aren't very eager to have them aboard.

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As you like to say, whatever .. I'm guessing you must have ben having a bad day ..

No, I was just a bit rankled by your (to paraphrase) "Netflix just introduced the official PS3 player a year ago, so they obviously didn't care much about consoles; their console players were an afterthought". That was completely ignoring the fact that the Xbox was one of the very first Netflix streaming players, launched 3 years ago, which was no doubt instrumental to the success of the service. Millions of Xbox owners who were not subs and who might not have even been aware of Netflix had the trial subscription offer pushed at them daily in a panel on the Xbox dashboard; in minutes those people could be trying Netflix streaming video out without buying anything new. My guess is that it was a large source of new subscribers for quite a while. Being on the consoles could make the same sort of contribution to Prime Instant Video's success and I feel certain that Amazon recognizes that.

Also, they couldn't launch the official PS3 Netflix player until a year ago; Microsoft was proudly proclaiming that the Xbox had a Netflix player and that you weren't going to see one on any other console. I suspect that if they could have launched a player on PS3 sooner, they would have. (The disc-based player was seen to be a clever end-run around that exclusivity agreement ).

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Do they have high def true hd videos? I will consider amazon over netflix. Arrogant companies that r greedy to hilt should doom Netflix, Sony, apple, google lol
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^ Amazon HD is 720P

Looks really good to me on my 1080P

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Something has changed. I had watched some old ST Next Gen episodes (non HD) when they first came to Prime and they looked pretty poor.

Watched one last night and it looked pretty good, much better.

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Something has changed. I had watched some old ST Next Gen episodes (non HD) when they first came to Prime and they looked pretty poor.

Watched one last night and it looked pretty good, much better.

Could I ask which episode you were watching and what you were watching it on? I just took a look at the pilot ("Encounter at Farpoint"--the characters were incredibly stiff and 2-dimensional at that point ) on Roku, my Panasonic BD player and the web player and the PQ sucks big time on all.

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Season 4, The Nth Degree

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My Roku 2 XS is supposed to arrive today so I will be able to compare

The main difference I noticed was far less grain, before it was like watching bad basic cable

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Could I ask which episode you were watching and what you were watching it on? I just took a look at the pilot ("Encounter at Farpoint"--the characters were incredibly stiff and 2-dimensional at that point ) on Roku, my Panasonic BD player and the web player and the PQ sucks big time on all.

Are you sure you were wearing your active-shutter glasses?
BTW, Spock, in "The Cage" - the first pilot for Trek, which got recycled into "The Menagerie" - had the same problem. Looks like a pattern to me!

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Damn Amazon Prime has their act together.

Ordered the Roku 2 XS yesterday at 1:30 PM, free 2 day shipping.

It just arrived

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The main difference I noticed was far less grain, before it was like watching bad basic cable

Exactly the way it is for me. Near the beginning, there's a view of Picard sitting in his command chair with Tasha Yar at the console up above him; her face is an indistinct smudge. It's just as bad on Netflix; I've heard that the DVD sucks.

EDIT: I just check "The Nth Degree" (season 4, episode 19). Not even slightly better than the pilot.

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Damn Amazon Prime has their act together.

Ordered the Roku 2 XS yesterday at 1:30 PM, free 2 day shipping.

It just arrived

I've had that happen many times. Whenever they ship, if they use ONTRAC (which ships within a western region of the country) it arrives the next day. The usually ship like this from warehouses in Arizona. Until recently they delivered here by 11 AM which was very sweet; they still get here by 1 PM.

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Anyone ever seen an HD title available for purchase?

Seems like only way to purchase a movie is non HD.

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Yeah, HD TV episodes can be bought, but HD movies seem to be rental-only (or Prime-only).

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Is there a way to see how much credit you have and when it expires?

I know I got a $5 credit for a tweet a while back and another $5 for linking a device (Roku2).

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Just view any VOD title and click on the view balance:

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I'm sure this has already been discussed, but can I get surround sound on my htpc through Amazon Prime? If so, how?
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I'm sure this has already been discussed, but can I get surround sound on my htpc through Amazon Prime? If so, how?

Since Amazon only streams in stereo to computers, you'd have to do what I'm doing - using a Roku, which does get 5.1 from Amazon. If you're using an AVR with HDMI inputs, a Roku 2 is the ticket, since that can stream Netflix in 1080 and output 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus (assuming your AVR can decode that audio format). If you have a pre-HDMI AVR (as I do) you'll want a Roku XDS, which has an optical output. Either one will get you 5.1 from Amazon in standard Dolby Digital, which all AVRs can decode.

Before you run out and buy a Roku to get Amazon in 5.1, remember that only some of Amazon's programming is in 5.1. Most TV episodes are in stereo - HD movies do tend to be in 5.1, fortunately.

I've set my AVR to fall back - when there's no 5.1 signal - to having the surround speakers play the same signal as the front speakers. That fills the room nicely in the same manner as a car stereo. Or you could think of it as a giant pair of headphones.

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Have to say, 720p from Amazon Prime looks better than 1080i from Time Warner

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Spent a few hours prospecting with my Roku for free 1080p material on the "1080P Showcase" private channel (go to your account at Roku, click on the link to add a private channel, and enter the code "1080p"). When you go to your Roku, go into and then exit the Channel Store to make it update its list of channels, and then you'll see the 1080p Showcase. I didn't immediately get any sound, so I went into that channel's setup screen and toggled the frame rate to its other setting and then everything worked fine. The sound on that channel is stereo, not surround.

It consists entirely of 1080p YouTube material. A lot of it is videogame walk-throughs, and there are also movie trailers and original material, but the mother lode is a large number of live performances by indie rock and blues musicians shot in 1080p over the past few years by a Seattle radio station, KEXP-FM, a public radio station at the University of Washington. Use the search screen to search for KEXP, and once you find one of its videos, you can "favorite" a video and/or its poster by clicking either or both of the lines that start with ">3" on the video's description page to change it/them to ">/3" Not exactly intuitive, but it works.

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Since Amazon only streams in stereo to computers, you'd have to do what I'm doing - using a Roku, which does get 5.1 from Amazon. If you're using an AVR with HDMI inputs, a Roku 2 is the ticket, since that can stream Netflix in 1080 and output 5.1 Dolby Digital Plus (assuming your AVR can decode that audio format). If you have a pre-HDMI AVR (as I do) you'll want a Roku XDS, which has an optical output. Either one will get you 5.1 from Amazon in standard Dolby Digital, which all AVRs can decode.

Before you run out and buy a Roku to get Amazon in 5.1, remember that only some of Amazon's programming is in 5.1. Most TV episodes are in stereo - HD movies do tend to be in 5.1, fortunately.

I've set my AVR to fall back - when there's no 5.1 signal - to having the surround speakers play the same signal as the front speakers. That fills the room nicely in the same manner as a car stereo. Or you could think of it as a giant pair of headphones.

I wanted to thank you for the reply. I won't be buying a Roku anytime soon as I feel that sort of defeats the purpose of my setup, but I understand how that would be the easiest way of going about things.

I guess I'll continue waiting for the day Netflix, Amazon Prime, and the rest decide to stream 5.1 for PCs. Thanks!
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I wanted to thank you for the reply. I won't be buying a Roku anytime soon as I feel that sort of defeats the purpose of my setup, but I understand how that would be the easiest way of going about things.

I guess I'll continue waiting for the day Netflix, Amazon Prime, and the rest decide to stream 5.1 for PCs. Thanks!

Unfortunately, since very few PCs can decode 5.1 or even bitstream it to an AVR - either of which takes a sound card that is anything but standard - they don't have much incentive to do so. Since these outfits are mass-marketers not focused on the tinkerers among us, you'll probably have a long wait.

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Amazon didn't have any Kindle Fire units on display yesterday at AndDevCon II but Barnes and Noble did have their just announced tablet.
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Unfortunately, since very few PCs can decode 5.1 or even bitstream it to an AVR - either of which takes a sound card that is anything but standard - they don't have much incentive to do so. Since these outfits are mass-marketers not focused on the tinkerers among us, you'll probably have a long wait.

Yeah, I sorta figured that. It seems strange to me that something like streaming video, which was introduced and made popular on the PC, is now being enhanced on and targeted to mainly non-PC streaming capable devices.

I was sort of hoping that as HDMI-out on video cards and built in to motherboards was becoming more the norm, we'd see more folks experimenting with HTPCs, but I guess that's not really the case.

I'm kind of surprised PC media centers like MCE or Boxee haven't made a deal with some of these streaming services for surround sound.

Sigh... Oh Well.
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Unfortunately, since very few PCs can decode 5.1 or even bitstream it to an AVR - either of which takes a sound card that is anything but standard - they don't have much incentive to do so. Since these outfits are mass-marketers not focused on the tinkerers among us, you'll probably have a long wait.

I don't know about "very few", but my last two off-the-shelf PCs, an HP notebook purchased about 5 or 6 years back and a Gateway desktop that I bought 2 years ago to replace it both have S/PDIF output, coax on the laptop and TOSlink on the desktop. With S/PDIF from the PC hooked up to my AVR, I play MKV, WMV and MOV (or MP4) files with 5.1 soundtracks using VLC, Zune, Quicktime and other players, getting both DD5.1 and DTS as encoded on the file.

Both PCs have S/PDIF headers on their motherboards (I don't own a soundcard) and in neither case did I look for that feature while shopping for the PC. I think that it must be pretty common. (This desktop has a Realtek "HD" integrated audio chipset--I think that the laptop might as well).

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I don't know about "very few", but my last two off-the-shelf PCs, an HP notebook purchased about 5 or 6 years back and a Gateway desktop that I bought 2 years ago to replace it both have S/PDIF output, coax on the laptop and TOSlink on the desktop. With S/PDIF from the PC hooked up to my AVR, I play MKV, WMV and MOV (or MP4) files with 5.1 soundtracks using VLC, Zune, Quicktime and other players, getting both DD5.1 and DTS as encoded on the file.

Both PCs have S/PDIF headers on their motherboards (I don't own a soundcard) and in neither case did I look for that feature while shopping for the PC. I think that it must be pretty common. (This desktop has a Realtek "HD" integrated audio chipset--I think that the laptop might as well).

I haven't shopped for a PC or laptop for years. Interesting that they're now including S/PDIF out on mainstream PCs.

Of course, the only things I use that for in my theater are my Roku and my cable box - I use the analog 5.1 RCA jacks on my Panasonic BD-50 to feed CD, DVD - and especially Blu-ray's lossless audio - directly into my pre-HDMI receiver. An S/PDIF connection (whether optical or coax) forces Blu-ray players to downshift to DVD-style lossy audio.

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Amazon didn't have any Kindle Fire units on display yesterday at AndDevCon II but Barnes and Noble did have their just announced tablet.

I'm thinking about selling my Nook Color and buying a Kindle Fire. As an Amazon Prime member, I'd get to read books for free from their "Kindle Owner's Lending Library", use the "Amazon Free Apps of the Day" (actually usable on any Android device, except a non-rooted Nook ) and view Prime Instant Video selections on my tablet. These are strong inducements.

I hate the market-protectionism practiced by both B&N and Amazon, with Amazon being the most hateful. They've refused to add a reader for books in industry-standard e-pub format with Adobe DRM so that you can read books purchased at most online e-book stores on Kindles--such a reader was also required for borrowing e-books from libraries until Amazon recently got the main lending service used by public libraries (overdrive.com) to stock copies in Kindle format .

The Nook Color hasn't worked out to be as good a tablet as I'd hoped. For the most part it's an excellent e-book reader, but since all apps have to come from B&N's app-store (unless you want to root the device which I'm not interested in doing), its selection of apps is weak. There are several things that I use on my Android phone which I'd like to use on the larger screen of the tablet which are just not available in the B&N app store but which are available from Amazon (some of them were Amazon "free apps of the day" ).

The Nook Color's speakers are also weak. Though adequate for sound effects from games, it sucks for watching videos, even those in their special books and magazines.

In the Nook's favor is the fact that you can read ubiquitously available e-pub-with-Adobe-DRM files on it, though e-books bought from B&N use a special version of it and cannot be read on non-B&N devices.

I doubt that I'll do anything until after the new year--there's supposedly a major Nook Color firmware update coming in December which will include Netflix and Hulu Plus players among other things.

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Michael - Tell me more about this "Kindle Owner's Lending Library" thing. I read a ton of books, so that may be an incentive for me to go prime (since the video streaming alone isn't differentiated enough from Netflix for me to use it)

Do you actually have to own a Kindle, or just use the Kindle App?
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With an Amazon Prime membership, Kindle owners can now choose from thousands of books to borrow for free - including over 100 current and former New York Times Bestsellers - as frequently as a book a month, with no due dates

Books can be borrowed and read on all Kindle E Ink devices and Kindle Fire

SEATTLE, Nov 02, 2011 (BUSINESS WIRE) --

Today, Amazon.com, Inc. (NASDAQ:AMZN) announced the launch of the Kindle Owners' Lending Library. With an Amazon Prime membership, Kindle owners can now choose from thousands of books to borrow for free - including over 100 current and former New York Times Bestsellers - as frequently as a book a month, with no due dates. No other e-reader or ebookstore offers such a service. With an annual Prime membership, the Kindle Owners' Lending Library is included at no additional cost. Millions of Prime members enjoy free two-day shipping, unlimited streaming of nearly 13,000 movies and TV shows, and now thousands of books to borrow for free with a Kindle.

"Owning a Kindle just got even better. Today, we're introducing a new Prime benefit built for Kindle: The Kindle Owners' Lending Library," said Jeff Bezos, Amazon.com Founder and CEO. "Prime Members now have exclusive access to a huge library of books to read on any Kindle device at no additional cost and with no due dates."

The Kindle Owners' Lending Library offers access to a wide array of categories and genres in fiction and non-fiction, and includes popular titles such as Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game, The Big Short and Liars' Poker by Michael Lewis, TheHunger Games trilogy by Suzanne Collins, and Water for Elephants by Sara Gruen --plus award-winning books such as The Finkler Question and Guns, Germs, and Steel, memoirs such as Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential, and motivational books like The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. Just as with any other Kindle book, your notes, highlights and bookmarks in borrowed books will be saved, so you'll have them later if you purchase or re-borrow the book. Books are borrowed from a Kindle device, and customers can have one book out at a time. When customers want to borrow a new book, any borrowed book can easily be returned right from their device.

Titles in the Kindle Owners' Lending Library come from a range of publishers under a variety of terms. For the vast majority of titles, Amazon has reached agreement with publishers to include titles for a fixed fee. In some cases, Amazon is purchasing a title each time it is borrowed by a reader under standard wholesale terms as a no-risk trial to demonstrate to publishers the incremental growth and revenue opportunity that this new service presents.

"The Kindle Owners' Lending Library is a great new benefit for Kindle owners and an entirely new growth opportunity for authors and publishers," said Russ Grandinetti, Vice President, Kindle Content. "With the growth in Prime membership and the recent addition of Prime Instant Video, we've been able to broaden our relationships with movie and TV studios such as CBS, Fox, and NBCUniversal and significantly increase their revenue. We're excited to expand that investment to books - with this launch, we expect three immediate results: Kindle owners will read even more, publisher revenues will grow, and authors will see larger royalty checks."

"We're excited to offer titles from our ebook 'Chapters' series, which covers some of the world's most popular destinations, to members of Kindle Owners' Lending Library," says John Boris, EVP Lonely Planet. "Our ebooks have done incredibly well on Kindle and this is a great way to showcase our travel expertise to an even broader audience."

"We're excited about any program that helps readers discover our authors and their books," said David Nussbaum, Chief Executive and Chairman of F+W Media Inc. "We think this will lead to more people reading F+W's books, and more profit for our authors."

To learn more about the Kindle Owners' Lending Library, visit www.amazon.com/kindleownerslendinglibrary. To learn about all of the additional benefits included with Amazon Prime, or to start an Amazon Prime free trial visit www.amazon.com/prime.

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Michael - Tell me more about this "Kindle Owner's Lending Library" thing. I read a ton of books, so that may be an incentive for me to go prime (since the video streaming alone isn't differentiated enough from Netflix for me to use it)

Do you actually have to own a Kindle, or just use the Kindle App?

You may noticed that the quoted name of the program in my post is a link to Amazon's page explaining it. On that page it is says, "Own a Kindle + Prime membership = Read for free". Under "Own a Kindle" it says, "Books can only be borrowed and read on Kindle devices (works with all Kindle generations)". So you have to have a Kindle, the cheapest new one being the new $80 one.

Kindle e-books which are eligible are marked "Prime" but there's no way to list them on website right now. You can download them for free and have one of them on your Kindle at any time and are required to "return" that one before downloading another.

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