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post #1951 of 1973 Old 05-10-2016, 08:36 PM
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Netflix talks a little about the video sources provided to them by their content partners in this and this techblog article. They detect, reject and request re-delivery of anything hinky. Their partners deliver their video in IMF, ProRes, DPS or MPEG format with the first being greatly preferred. I'd expect that Amazon uses a similar process.
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No idea how they source them, but I have bought a few things in HD there that weren't yet out on Blu-ray (The Prince of Egypt, the Kevin Kline version of A Midsummer Night's Dream, and of course Warehouse 13).
I've also wondered how the streaming services get HD versions of movie that aren't available on Blu-ray. I owned a digital copy of the 1983 movie The Dead Zone for years on VUDU because it is still not available on Blu-ray in this country - although there have been releases in Italy and Spain.

Now I see it's available in HD on Amazon Prime.

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I've also wondered how the streaming services get HD versions of movie that aren't available on Blu-ray. I owned a digital copy of the 1983 movie The Dead Zone for years on VUDU because it is still not available on Blu-ray in this country - although there have been releases in Italy and Spain.

Now I see it's available in HD on Amazon Prime.
I'm guessing that making a digital transfer is a relatively small expense compared to doing a BD release. Once you add in cost of special features, commentary, box art, promotions, rights clearance, etc, the studio may decide it's not worth it.
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The major streaming services definitely do not get their content from BDs at this point. The rights holders send them files and the existence of BDs is irrelevant. VUDU has a collection of films which are "still in theaters". I've seen the occasional thing on Netflix which wasn't on disc yet. As has been pointed out, preparing a title for release on BD requires some effort, while you just have to pass a file containing a digital rendering to the streaming services.

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I've also wondered how the streaming services get HD versions of movie that aren't available on Blu-ray. I owned a digital copy of the 1983 movie The Dead Zone for years on VUDU because it is still not available on Blu-ray in this country - although there have been releases in Italy and Spain.

Now I see it's available in HD on Amazon Prime.
When I purchased this HD digital movie on VUDU several years ago the sound was in stereo, which was fine since that was how it was originally shown in theaters. Revisiting this title last night on VUDU I saw that it had been upgraded to DD 5.1, I then compared it to the Amazon version which I found was in DD+ 5.1. The reworked surround sound field is effective especially in certain scenes. But I find it curious that the two streaming companies have different sound versions. I noticed no difference in the 1080p picture.

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Recently watched Doctor Thorne on Amazon Prime and rather enjoyed it. It is a four part miniseries, which is based on an Anthony Trollope novel, with a screenplay by Julian Fellowes (Downton Abbey.) Although it is billed as a miniseries, it's really just a made for TV movie cut up into four episodes. Each episode is less that 45 minutes in length and is effectively shortened further by Fellowes remarks, which precede and follow each episode in the manner of Alfred Hitchcock Presents.

Despite the bait and switch manner in which the show was presented, I rather enjoyed it. It is predictable but tells a warm, feel good story, which I liked. In addition, it had an excellent ensemble cast. But this was a British show so I suppose that was to be expected. There is one surprising twist at the end, which I thought was funny. Recommended, 7 Stars out of 10.
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Does Amazon rate limit their streaming?

In my bedroom, I have an older Sony BDP-S380 BD player I sometimes use, hardwired Ethernet. It has a bitrate display to show how fast it's able to download (not the bitrate of the video itself.) I have Comcast 25/5, but it's actually 30/6. With Netflix, the player shows in the upper 20's, typically 27-28. With Amazon, it's only in the upper teens, usually around 17-19.

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Does Amazon rate limit their streaming?

In my bedroom, I have an older Sony BDP-S380 BD player I sometimes use, hardwired Ethernet. It has a bitrate display to show how fast it's able to download (not the bitrate of the video itself.) I have Comcast 25/5, but it's actually 30/6. With Netflix, the player shows in the upper 20's, typically 27-28. With Amazon, it's only in the upper teens, usually around 17-19.
Funny, I thought Netflix would be slower then Amazon due to all that traffic. I find that Netflix loads a tad faster on my Roku 3600 then Amazon, but my ISP has Open Connect.


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IIRC, NFLX is ironically one of the largest customers of AMZN's extremely successful cloud services business...

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IIRC, NFLX is ironically one of the largest customers of AMZN's extremely successful cloud services business...
They are but not for content streaming.
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I am going to say it but if you want the best Amazon streaming then you need a Fire TV. Trust me I tried them all from game consoles like the PS3, PS4 which were the worst quality and "insufficient bandwidth" on the PC with fluctuating quality SD to HD back to SD messages to the Roku which was good until adaptive streaming was added and now has the same issues as the PC. So now all of my Amazon Instant viewing goes to the Fire TV. I don't use it for the Roku and even have the app deleted from my game console.

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Does Amazon rate limit their streaming?

In my bedroom, I have an older Sony BDP-S380 BD player I sometimes use, hardwired Ethernet. It has a bitrate display to show how fast it's able to download (not the bitrate of the video itself.) I have Comcast 25/5, but it's actually 30/6. With Netflix, the player shows in the upper 20's, typically 27-28. With Amazon, it's only in the upper teens, usually around 17-19.
Perhaps the Amazon app on the player is an older version that hasn't been updated. Netflix has constantly engaged in tweaks and revamps of the guts of it's apps across the many device categories over the years.

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I am going to say it but if you want the best Amazon streaming then you need a Fire TV. Trust me I tried them all from game consoles like the PS3, PS4 which were the worst quality and "insufficient bandwidth" on the PC with fluctuating quality SD to HD back to SD messages to the Roku which was good until adaptive streaming was added and now has the same issues as the PC. So now all of my Amazon Instant viewing goes to the Fire TV. I don't use it for the Roku and even have the app deleted from my game console.
Amazon looks fantastic on all my sets. I'm using all Roku's and the 3600's picture quality on most Amazon and Netflix content looks absolutely stunning on my Panasonic PDP.

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I may have to get an Fire TV for the halibut. Since it is an Android TV device it should be able to run my data usage program. It's been fun using it on the Shield TV to see how much data a show takes. Netflix is still using h264 and the files are large whereas Hulu seems to be serving the Shield VP9 encodes at half the size of less.
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Halibut?

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I may have to get an Fire TV for the halibut.

Just like I bought Chromecast 2 (and the $15 wired network adapter) for sh*ts and giggles . I bought the original Fire TV stick because it was offered for $20 at launch to Amazon Prime members--how could I not buy it??? I was impressed that they recently upgraded it with significant new functionality, including Alexa (a kind of weak version, but still).

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I am going to say it but if you want the best Amazon streaming then you need a Fire TV. Trust me I tried them all from game consoles like the PS3, PS4 which were the worst quality and "insufficient bandwidth" on the PC with fluctuating quality SD to HD back to SD messages to the Roku which was good until adaptive streaming was added and now has the same issues as the PC. So now all of my Amazon Instant viewing goes to the Fire TV. I don't use it for the Roku and even have the app deleted from my game console.
As I posted earlier, I haven't any streaming issues with my 4 Roku's, including my older XD, and I'm using a wireless network. I believe your problem has more to do with your ISP. Time Warner Cable internet speeds abysmal

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I am paying for TWC 15Mbps and getting about 25

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I'm suddenly getting only Dolby Digital Plus 2.0 from content which is in 5.1, using a Fire Tv and a Fire stick. Checked the settings and nothing has changed. Netflix from FireTv and stick works fine and has DD+ 5.1. Anyone else see this issue?
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Read an article that Amazon released 8 pilots you can review and score:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/amazon-ju...230003798.html

I think I will watch "Sigmund and the Sea Monsters"...

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On a Roku, can you change the star rating for a video/series for Amazon?

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On a Roku, can you change the star rating for a video/series for Amazon?
If you mean give it your own star rating, I've never figured it out. I can only rate things through the Amazon webpage. But I haven't put that much effort into it.

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