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Don't know if this goes here but I just bought a Samsung Smart TV with Netflix, Pandora, etc. accessible on screen via my WiFi. If I access any of these services this way I would assume the signal goes directly to the TV. How do I send the signal to my receiver to utilize my surround sound rather than the TV speakers. How does the signal get there?
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Hi ortho1121, depend what model receiver and tv you have.

If the receiver and smart tv has ARC (Audio Return Channel) feature then it can pass audio to the receiver via HDMI cable that is connected between the receiver and tv. You have to enable ARC on both units.

If it doesn't have ARC feature then connect an optical cable from tv "Digital Audio Out" to receiver TV/CD jack.
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If it doesn't have ARC feature then connect an optical cable from tv "Digital Audio Out" to receiver TV/CD jack.

Yeah, this is what I currently use. Though I'm limited to Dolby Digital that way, so I use my blu-ray player for Dolby Digital Plus titles on Vudu.

For most services, optical will work fine.

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You're also not going to get surround sound out of Netflix via optical or coax S/PDIF (surround audio out on my television is coax), since Netflix's surround sound is also DD+. Does the television's Netflix player even offer a 5.1 sound option in titles' "Audio & subtitles" menus?

I should think that most if not all Samsung Smart TVs have HDMI 1.4 ARC support. If your AVR also has it, you're in business.

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You're also not going to get surround sound out of Netflix via optical or coax S/PDIF (surround audio out on my television is coax), since Netflix's surround sound is also DD+.

Are all of Netflix's titles DD+? Not all of Vudu's titles are. (I tend to check the DD only titles on Vudu against Amazon, as Amazon is usually a dollar cheaper for the same movie.)

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Are all of Netflix's titles DD+? Not all of Vudu's titles are. (I tend to check the DD only titles on Vudu against Amazon, as Amazon is usually a dollar cheaper for the same movie.)

Yep--all of them. They added 5.1 sound when they introduced the installed player on PS3 (October 2010); 1080p video and captions/subtitles came with it. You can see a PR about it here. Prior to that Netflix only had stereo sound, though Dolby Pro Logic surround encoding survives in most of it. Older PS3s can't bitstream DD+ from Netflix (or VUDU) but the PS3 can convert it to basic DD. Netflix players on BDPs can do that also; they have to be able to do it to output DD+, TrueHD, DTS-HD HR and DTS-HD MA on discs through S/PDIF. It's possible that the smart TV can do it as well.

Rokus don't process surround sound from anything; they don't license Dolby tech. People with AVRs incapable of decoding DD+ are SOL for digital surround out of Netflix on Rokus boxes.

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Interesting.

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Are all of Netflix's titles DD+? Not all of Vudu's titles are. (I tend to check the DD only titles on Vudu against Amazon, as Amazon is usually a dollar cheaper for the same movie.)

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Yep--all of them.

Well maybe all of them apart from the Apple TV 5.1 Netflix encodes which are DD.

Back to the original ops question. ARC will work if supported by your receiver and TV.

In my case my Panasonic 55VT30 only sends stereo on the ARC output......

It is a shame because otherwise I would be using the Panasonic Amazon player to supplement my Apple TV

(well that would certainly be the case if the TV embedded streaming apps also supported the same picture controls as external sources. My calibrated settings or even the TV THX setting are not available for the embedded streaming apps......)
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Yep--all of them.

Some of the older titles aren't especially the SD versions. I recently watched Shane (1953) and it wasn't. The same can said for VUDU where some of the older titles are just stereo or mono stereo.

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Yep--all of them.

Some of the older titles aren't especially the SD versions. I recently watched Shane (1953) and it wasn't. The same can said for VUDU where some of the older titles are just stereo or mono stereo.

Only a small subset of Netflix titles has 5.1 sound (2552 of 11464 according to TVandMoviesNow.com, 22.26%). The majority of the titles without 5.1 sound can hardly be considered "older". Digital 5.1 sound, for those titles which have it, is always encoded as DD+ (except for ATV, as pointed out by undecided, AFAIK the only device which get basic DD). I assumed that Tulpa's question concerned only titles with 5.1 sound.

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Are all of Netflix's titles DD+? Not all of Vudu's titles are. (I tend to check the DD only titles on Vudu against Amazon, as Amazon is usually a dollar cheaper for the same movie.)

Wouldn't the dollar difference in most cases be more a resolution difference of Amazon HD (720p) versus VUDU HD (1080p)?

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