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How does it compare to Netflix, PQ-wise? How about price, considering you get four free monthly rentals as well?

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Redbox instant was so terrible. Worst selection ive ever seen. Dont get it.
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I can see some sense for the segment who don't feel they are going to watch streaming that much and rent discs from Redbox kiosks. They've improved selection a bit but when I tried the beta I was limited to watching on PC and even late afternoon it had some buffering problems. They have limited device support too though I wouldn't be surprised if they have a Chromecast app in the works.
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There's a channel for Rokus. I haven't tried it.

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Since I hadn't looked in about a month I checked the Redbox Instant site after I noticed a new title showed on "Can I Stream It" for Redbox Instant. They now offer both subscription titles and new rental titles as PPV (ala VUDU and Amazon). So they are capitalizing on the major complaint that Netflix users have. Let's see if Netflix does this.
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Hmm... I thought they did subscription and PPV since the beta. Anyway, the selection is still terrible, and the PPV is not a good value (same price as everyone else).
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and the PPV is not a good value (same price as everyone else).
PPV sucks the big one which is why I don't use Amazon Instant much. Nothing annoys me more when I want to watch something and I find out I have to pay per episode and they even have the nerve to charge more for HD version.

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Pricing is a bit weird for PPV. For instance I was a fan of "Comic Book Men" but I'm not paying the same price for an episode of it (22 minutes) as a 44 minute show. Amazon does discount if you buy the season and you can cancel after three episodes.
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Nobody offers PPV for television series that I'm aware of. You can only purchase episodes or seasons. But you're right--22 minute "half hour" shows are priced exactly the same as 42 minute "hour long" shows.

Amazon has created something interesting for current season shows called a "TV Pass". It automatically charges you for each episode of the season as they become available at a discount--$1.88 instead of $2.99, for instance. You are, however, allowed to cancel at any time, unlike previously when you had to buy the entire current season before it was all available to get the discount. If you buy a pass in the middle of a season you're immediately charged for all of the episodes up to that point, which would stop you from buying a pass, buying a single episode at the discounted price and then cancelling the pass. The only time I buy TV episodes is when I miss recording something; I own a smattering of episodes from random seasons of multiple series as purchased from multiple services over the years biggrin.gif.

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PPV is a generic term to differentiate between renting a title and a title that just comes via subscription. And yes you "own" the title which is their excuse to charge you more or otherwise it might be truly PPV and the cost per episode lower. Careful there on the Amazon discount price. It's $1.88 for SD and $2.60 or so for HD per episode. Granted their interface is a bit confusing and I made that mistake when I picked up the remaining episodes of "Sons of Anarchy" but they fixed it for me. Signing up for "Justified" required only two episodes purchased before cancellation. Last fall "American Horror Story" was three episodes before cancellation possible. If I'm not mistake VUDU has only one price for a season and it's all or nothing.
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PPV is a generic term to differentiate between renting a title and a title that just comes via subscription. And yes you "own" the title which is their excuse to charge you more or otherwise it might be truly PPV and the cost per episode lower. Careful there on the Amazon discount price. It's $1.88 for SD and $2.60 or so for HD per episode. Granted their interface is a bit confusing and I made that mistake when I picked up the remaining episodes of "Sons of Anarchy" but they fixed it for me. Signing up for "Justified" required only two episodes purchased before cancellation. Last fall "American Horror Story" was three episodes before cancellation possible. If I'm not mistake VUDU has only one price for a season and it's all or nothing.

I've never heard PPV used in reference to purchased video streams. It's an acronym for "Pay Per View" which clearly in indicates rental. You pay once for a TV series episode stream you can view it whenever you want without ever paying again (unless, of course, the service disappears, in which case you're probably SOL biggrin.gif).

And the TV pass price is as low as I said for all of the series that I've looked at. See this page for Castle in HD--"Buy TV Pass in HD/1-Click® ($1.82/episode) ". But I see that that's not true of every series; Major Crimes in HD is $2.84/episode on the TV Pass. Looking at a few series I see that prices vary quite a bit for TV Passes and for previous seasons. Previous seasons of Castle are $1.25/episode in HD, $1/episode in SD. Cable network series seem to be more expensive overall.

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I've never heard PPV used in reference to purchased video streams. It's an acronym for "Pay Per View" which clearly in indicates rental. You pay once for a TV series episode stream you can view it whenever you want without ever paying again (unless, of course, the service disappears, in which case you're probably SOL biggrin.gif).

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I just see PPV as anything you have to pay extra for to view once on top of your subscription.
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We use Redbox rental from time to time but the streaming version does not seem to offer the movies available at the Kiosk. We have a SONY Blu-ray player and it is not on Redbox streaming list of usable devices. Netflix does not have the newer movies so I dropped them.  Guess I will continue to pay $1. or $1.50 at the Kiosk which is still pretty good. Snowy winter days make streaming services seem important to save getting the car out on snowy streets.

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Redbox would be smart to now create a Chromecast enabled Redbox Instant app. But you won't be getting the new movies streaming for $1 or $1.50. Also given Verizon leading the charge against Net Neutrality they may have shot themselves in the foot.
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I just tried Redbox and am very happy with it. There is a McDonald's store just down the street from my subdivision and it's pretty convenient.

I always liked looking at movie selections (Bluray) at Blockbuster. Since they are gone, I considered Netflix, but they have very few new release movies. I think they are concentrating on streaming.

And by the way - - a Bluray movie is so much superior to any streaming service. The best stream I have gotten is from my Directv provider. But way, way too expensive. so Redbox is the solution for now.

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Redbox is excellent and their kiosks offer some of the very latest movies fo0r $1 or $1.50 fro Blu-Ray.  Seems like a real bargain and suits my needs.  I had Netflix streaming at one time but they did not offer the latest movies so after about 6 months I gave it up.  The Redbox new streaming service does not offer the latest movies available at the Kiosk so basically a clone of Netflix. All said and done I usually rent one movie a week or sometimes 2 and the Redbox has suited me very well.

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I have about 11 RB kiosks around here so I can usually find a movie I want to see. I pick titles that won't be arriving on Netflix any time soon. There are two kiosks a block away so returning discs is no great chore either.
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Vudu is the best $3 per movie rental online hdx.

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Vudu is the best $3 per movie rental online hdx.
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How reliable is it though? 10mpbs for HDX is a lot of bandwidth. Watching the trailers HD does look really good though.

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SD is even cheaper and I do not see big difference in quality.

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I rent discs from a local Redbox Kiosk they are fine ......... when they have something you want inexpensive also. I tried the Instant on a 30 day trial a while back did not care for it selection was limited and no price advantage over Amazon prime . I already have Amazon Prime and Netflix+ OTA and Dish TV + local storage so plenty to watch .

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SD is even cheaper and I do not see big difference in quality.
Your joking right. SD at 16:9 looks horrible and I can easily tell the difference. SD at 4:3 can look really good according to the encode but I can still tell it is not HD. 720p HD and 1080p HD sometimes I can't tell the difference depending on the encode and a bad 1080p encode can look worse than a proper encoded 720p encode.

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do not get it (redbox).... never ever again....
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10mpbs for HDX is a lot of bandwidth.

Actually 9 Mbps. I don't have any problem with my network service keeping up with that.

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Actually 9 Mbps. I don't have any problem with my network service keeping up with that.
The following from the VUDU speed test page:
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Streaming Requirements:

Customers should have at least a 1000 kbps (1 Mbps) broadband internet connection in order to enjoy the VUDU streaming service. With faster broadband connections, customers can enjoy VUDU's 720p HD and industry leading 1080p HDX format.

Minimum requirements for the VUDU streaming service are as follows:

SD (480p) requires 1000 kbps
HD (720p) requires 2250 kbps
HDX (1080p) requires 4500 kbps

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The following from the VUDU speed test page:

Minimum requirements for the VUDU streaming service are as follows:

SD (480p) requires 1000 kbps
HD (720p) requires 2250 kbps
HDX (1080p) requires 4500 kbps
I've always been a bit confused by minimum and maximum bit-rates. The last time I checked my VUDU streaming bit-rate on an HDX movie it ran an average of 9 Mbps, so how does a lesser speed like 4500 Kbps even work for HDX? Does it have to buffer twice as long to build up enough steam to stream?

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I've always been a bit confused by minimum and maximum bit-rates. The last time I checked my VUDU streaming bit-rate on an HDX movie it ran an average of 9 Mbps, so how does a lesser speed like 4500 Kbps even work for HDX? Does it have to buffer twice as long to build up enough steam to stream?
No problem, VUDU seems confused as well , the following from another VUDU page.


What bandwidth do I need to use the VUDU service?

Published 05/08/2012 09:50 AM |

We recommend the following:

SD - 1 Mbps to 2 Mbps

HD - 2.25 Mbps to 4.5 Mbps

HDX - 4.5 Mbps to 9 Mbps


Purely a guess: VUDU is using eyeIO and have cut their data rates in half.
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The PQ on Continuum that I rented (or they call bought) on VUDU in HDX was spectacular and crisp. SuperHD paled by comparison. The only thing I noticed was some wave like dispersion on dark area (varying contrast) which you won't get on a BD. One thing is I live in the Bay Area and I may not be that far from the VUDU server farm.
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The following from the VUDU speed test page:
Do not recall if this has changed over the last several years.

Note the word "minimum"; each of those tiers has three encodes. The lowest bit rate HDX encode is 4.5 Mpbs and the highest bit rate HDX encode of 9 Mbps.

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