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Just saw this in Ars Technica...

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/netflix-may-have-gained-direct-connection-to-comcast-network/

This could be wonderful.

Fingers are crossed...

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Just saw this in Ars Technica...

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/netflix-may-have-gained-direct-connection-to-comcast-network/

This could be wonderful.

Fingers are crossed...

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See the giant "Netflix Streaming Quality" thread. Personally, I've seen no change.

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No change here on Comcrap. Low bitrate SD streams only, except at off-peak times I can sometimes get HD streams. Flawless HD streams from virtually every other streaming service.
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No change here in Santa Rosa, CA either.
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It's done. This just in:
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In a landmark deal, Netflix has agreed to pay Comcast for direct access to the company's broadband system. The announcement comes after months of dispute between Netflix and broadband providers about who should pay for increasing bandwidth loads.

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http://gizmodo.com/report-netflix-agrees-to-pay-comcast-for-access-to-bro-1529115565
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I hope things improve. Now if TWC was to join Open Connect which will most likely happen now with the possible merger with Comcast.

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I hope things improve. Now if TWC was to join Open Connect which will most likely happen now with the possible merger with Comcast.
Comcast does NOT appear to be using Open Connect (which involves putting cache servers inside an ISP's network.) Netflix is just now DIRECTLY sending video to Comcast instead of sending it through a 3rd party CDN.

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Comcast does NOT appear to be using Open Connect (which involves putting cache servers inside an ISP's network.) Netflix is just now DIRECTLY sending video to Comcast instead of sending it through a 3rd party CDN.
As I said in the Netflix Streaming Quality thread. If Comcast is going to use nflxvideo.net the quality is still going to suck. mad.gif

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Comcast does NOT appear to be using Open Connect (which involves putting cache servers inside an ISP's network.) Netflix is just now DIRECTLY sending video to Comcast instead of sending it through a 3rd party CDN.

confused.gif So how is Netflix sending "video" directly to Comcast if it's not using 3rd party CDN or its own CDN, Open Connect?

Also putting cache appliance is one of the options and is not Open Connect. Open Connect is just a moniker Netflix chose for its own CDN. It's not some cutting edge tech solution. It's simply a single-purpose CDN.
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Comcast and the other telecoms are behaving like crime syndicates (or are crime syndicates). The Comcast extortion fee for Netflix is a bad day for America.
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No change here on Comcrap. Low bitrate SD streams only, except at off-peak times I can sometimes get HD streams. Flawless HD streams from virtually every other streaming service.


The agreement was just reached last night. It's going to take time to implement that agreement.

 

I would be pleasantly surprised if the improvement can occur in less than a week.


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The agreement was just reached last night. It's going to take time to implement that agreement.

I would be pleasantly surprised if the improvement can occur in less than a week.

I was assuming more like weeks, or even months. We know the agreement is time-limited, so it has a start date and end date. But nobody is saying what those are.
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From Bloomberg Business Week.

Netflix and Comcast Are Only Trying to Help You.

All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Movies

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From Bloomberg Business Week.

Netflix and Comcast Are Only Trying to Help You.

And whether they had agreed to it or not, it's still double dipping.

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Netflix is paying Comcast for a more direct path to its network; once its movies are in Comcast’s tubes, they’ll travel the same as other content. Netflix would rather pay to improve service than have its customers suffer, and its customers will see improved video quality as a result.
For critics, however, this is an existential crisis. In their view, Internet providers just found a new way to charge companies for access to their customers, who are already paying for access to content. That sounds like an incremental step toward a corporate-controlled Internet, where big players use their market power to smother competition. While Netflix may find it’s in its best interests to pay, it is a powerhouse; companies that can’t negotiate favorably are more vulnerable.


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And whether they had agreed to it or not, it's still double dipping.

How so?
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