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NOW THAT THE SUPERNOVA IS A RESPECTABLE SCREEN, WOULDN'T IT BE NEAT TO USE IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH A SUPERKONTRAST?

SUPERNOVA INFINITY

The Supernovs comes in an infinity sized version where many panels are put together to make one giant screen that can be seen in high ambient light.







The edge matching is said to be invisible at a distance.

Imagine this 19 by 9 foot wide (143sf variable image area screen) where masking is not needed due to the extreme ansi in both ends of the projection chain...



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Max, the showfloor pics, where were these taken?
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Thought the place looked familliar.
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http://www.xlavision.com/GalleryVideo.asp

They are a featured sponsor in one of the promo emails for the projection summit. Gain 11-22 little torusses. Still 3500-5000 lumens required for daylightprojection.
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Regarding the video at 100" they still used a 5k lumen projector. Thats a light canon, how much work is the screen doing?

I love the scope pictures above.
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They claim a gain for the screen of 11 to 22. There was a link to a 'white-paper'on the site, but it didn't really tell much.

Had only seen the pics when I posted they looked quite nice, but judging by the little movie i linked to above the image still washes out. Notice the one setting in the stadium walkways quite dark, but still a washed out picture. Not very convincing that FP works for digital signage.

If the picture really looks as good as in the images posted by Peter, the DNP Supernova is becomming a nice alternative to rear-projection. Last time (year and a half ago) I walked by the supernova, in the same hall probably, it was a small screen, and the result was not bad for non-blacked-out frontprojection, but still clearly bothered by the lighting DNP had on its stand.
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I walked by the supernova, in the same hall probably, it was a small screen, and the result was not bad for non-blacked-out frontprojection, but still clearly bothered by the lighting DNP had on its stand.


Even a pasma is bothered by some lights. The new supernova 8/85 strata is darker than the former, it also has no hot spotting or shimmering.


The supernova infinity has me super-intrigued the only concern is the seams, which are machine cut to microns of tolerance, I guess with a white field at a certain distance...

The supernova infinity is particularly attractive for someone wanting to get
a giant screen up an elevator.
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no shimmering.

That has been the trade off, most of these super high gain screens have always had that texture or shimmer. This could be a winner.
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We may know in a month or two.
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This looks like it is really for things like concerts, clubs ,and convention floor presentations.
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Even a pasma is bothered by some lights.
The new supernova 8/85 strata is darker than the former, it also has no hot spotting or shimmering.

Plasma is bothered by limited light output, and most of all the big plate of glass on the front.

Last time I saw the supernova (could have bene flex if that was being introduced around that time?) was a year and a half ago at ISE 2007. Good to hear they are still improving on it.

My first impression of the Stewart Starglass at the same show was quite positive. But as we can see on the example in the 20k section, this is also reflective of ambient light.

So, all displays are more or less bothered by reflections of ambient light, FP generally the most, so it would benefit the most from a reduction in reflection of unwanted light, so hopefully the Japanese/Danes have come up with a solution.

Alan, some time ago, I picked up a piece of unused Dawako (now screentech) white front projection screen plate, unfortunately the room in the van was just 10 cm too short, so it snapped. So, now I got two small pieces. But indeed, at a rated gain of 3 it hotspots rather clearly.
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