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Ok, now I see, how you calculated this.

Compression - you mean thermal?

I am using mostly PA woofers and drivers in OSWG, but even for normal HT speakers those SPLs don't seem unrealistic I would say. But I don't know what is your definition of "high level distortion"...

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My overall opinion about their recommendation od 99dB at listener position is that this is just a recommended high value that the system is then able to deliver a decent sound, at much lower levels most of the time, so not 99dB all the time, just in peaks at most.
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I am using mostly PA woofers and drivers in OSWG
6.5" woofer?

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My overall opinion about their recommendation od 99dB at listener position is that this is just a recommended high value that the system is then able to deliver a decent sound, at much lower levels most of the time, so not 99dB all the time, just in peaks at most.
Exactly this is where it counts. Dynamic range is important. Same is true for images. You need a tremendous amount of "light" to make an image look realistic. Even if there's just a tiny little reflection coming from a drop of water.

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Show me a real driver that does that. Look at PA drivers that are made for high SPL. You'll hardly find one.
I used the unremarkable Vifa WR165, which is in no way unusual.

If you're concerned with compression, use a 6" or 8" pro driver, many of which have 5 mm or more xmax.

Not sure it's an issue though; I'd think these would be peak levels with average power being a fraction of that.

Not sure why Dolby says these should be continuous levels.

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Because cinema.

These are all facts pulled from the Dolby Atmos cinema whitepaper.

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I was told on good authority by my local distributor, that Steinway Lyngdorf will be unveiling their Dolby Atmos system in the US to vendors in September. I was told where but I'm guessing it will be at CEDIA. I'm hoping they don't take too long to offer an upgrade path to their existing customers, esp given I only just had a room set up with a SL S system.


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Tough to hang B&W800D2 on the walls! Do you think these will work B&W805D2?
The answer is the same if you ask yourself if they would work in your opinion as bass managed surround speakers. In terms of SPL, distortion, fidelity. If so, they're good to go.

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I assume in a good set up these ceiling speakers ideally would reach reference level? I haven't seen anything on specifications for speakers..

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6.5" woofer?
no, in my fronts but why not? it's always a good thing to have the directivity controlled
For rears I have a 8" almost-pro (Fane 8-225) though, with a non-OSWG, but a (cheap) driver is used too.
I mentioned a woofer, because the limit will be likely in its excursion, not in the tweeter/driver section. And I was mentioning 6.5" as an example which will be sufficient enough for effect speakers. So yes, maybe if you are talking about <40Hz or so, but above let's say 80Hz (my setup) it would not be a big deal for such a woofer size to peak at 108db@1m with tolerable distortion.

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Dynamic range is important. Same is true for images. You need a tremendous amount of "light" to make an image look realistic. Even if there's just a tiny little reflection coming from a drop of water.
Thats why they defined a limit high enough for a normal HT setup. If those Dolby's 99dB were meant as a constant level, then back my pardon, I would decrease the volume anyway

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It may be too early to tell, but which will most likely be the preferred Atmos setup? 7.1.4 or 9.1.2?
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It may be too early to tell, but which will most likely be the preferred Atmos setup? 7.1.4 or 9.1.2?
Dolby says 7.1.4
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It may be too early to tell, but which will most likely be the preferred Atmos setup? 7.1.4 or 9.1.2?
I think 7 speakers around you can give a ring of sound that is seamless enough that adding another pair starts to get into diminishing returns. I wouldn't switch from 7.1.4 to 9.1.2, but I would go from 7.1.4 to 9.1.4. Wides would help, but not as much as a second pair of heights.
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I think 7 speakers around you can give a ring of sound that is seamless enough that adding another pair starts to get into diminishing returns. I wouldn't switch from 7.1.4 to 9.1.2, but I would go from 7.1.4 to 9.1.4. Wides would help, but not as much as a second pair of heights.
Agreed.

I'll focus on 7.1.4 and then consider future expansion later on when the technology matures.
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I think 7 speakers around you can give a ring of sound that is seamless enough that adding another pair starts to get into diminishing returns. I wouldn't switch from 7.1.4 to 9.1.2, but I would go from 7.1.4 to 9.1.4. Wides would help, but not as much as a second pair of heights.
A lot depends on how much additional information sound mixers will place above you. My guess, from the Atmos I've experienced, is that having the wide front side surrounds (also used in Atmos theaters) would probably be a more useful addition and be utilized more often by engineers. You'd get more precise lateral pans and dialog anchor points as well... ala "Gravity" and "Edge of Tomorrow."

I'd love to see if at least a 9.1.4 configuration was (and still is) part of Dolby's game plan for consumer Atmos. It would also possibly calm the Auro3D crowd that always points out... "Yeah, but Auro gives you 13.1!!"

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A lot depends on how much additional information sound mixers will place above you. My guess, from the Atmos I've experienced, is that having the wide front side surrounds (also used in Atmos theaters) would probably be a more useful addition and be utilized more often by engineers. You'd get more precise lateral pans and dialog anchor points as well... ala "Gravity" and "Edge of Tomorrow."

I'd love to see if at least a 9.1.4 configuration was (and still is) part of Dolby's game plan for consumer Atmos. It would also possibly calm the Auro3D crowd that always points out... "Yeah, but Auro gives you 13.1!!"
I agree that wides would be the most important addition but not because of the reason you've mentioned: psychoacoustic studies have shown that reflections (real or artificial) from ±55° are most significant for perceived spaciousness.
Spaciousness means more realism and more immersion. Overhead sounds are just a gimmick in my opinion. Very nice to have but not crucial for a real advancement in sound reproduction.

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I agree that wides would be the most important addition but not because of the reason you've mentioned: psychoacoustic studies have shown that reflections (real or artificial) from ±55° are most significant for perceived spaciousness.
Spaciousness means more realism and more immersion. Overhead sounds are just a gimmick in my opinion. Very nice to have but not crucial for a real advancement in sound reproduction.
Atmos uses the front wide surround arrays for hard pan throughs and off-screen dialog/effects anchor points so there isn't such a big jump from the screen speakers to the side wall surrounds. It's more than just for reflection points. They're also easier for humans to locate due to our ear/brain correlation that has heightened lateral sensations rather than stuff coming from directly above you.

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You'd get more precise lateral pans and dialog anchor points as well... ala "Gravity" and "Edge of Tomorrow."
Lateral pans wouldn't be more precise as more stable (for listeners outside the sweet spot), same way a centre speaker is more for imaging stability than precise localization (those sounds would image at the centre of the soundstage even without a centre speaker). The benefits are small enough that it wasn't worth sacrificing any of the 4 height outputs.
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I'd love to see if at least a 9.1.4 configuration was (and still is) part of Dolby's game plan for consumer Atmos. It would also possibly calm the Auro3D crowd that always points out... "Yeah, but Auro gives you 13.1!!"
Auro's 13.1 layout still uses a 7.1 base. If you have a 7.1.4 set-up with Auro and want to add a couple of speakers, you can only use them for additional heights. They'd rather do 6 height channels than sacrifice any of those outputs for wides.

Wides would be nice to have, but apparently are a very low priority compared to heights, both for Atmos and Auro.

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Because cinema.
Cinema just scales up the total sound power required to reach a given SPL.

Peak vs. continuous is a question of crest factor, and to require more continuous SPL capability would mean that cinema soundtracks' are lower.

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You're right.

I was being a smart ass but I was implying that they might run there gear longer and harder (and with more power) than in the typical domestic environment. Also the specs were pulled from the cinema whitepaper which may not translate as literal for domestic use.

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Atmos uses the front wide surround arrays for hard pan throughs and off-screen dialog/effects anchor points so there isn't such a big jump from the screen speakers to the side wall surrounds. It's more than just for reflection points. They're also easier for humans to locate due to our ear/brain correlation that has heightened lateral sensations rather than stuff coming from directly above you.
My point was that Atmos uses sides for actually less than they could be used for, namely believable spaciousness.

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DeAf ;-) Tech has announced add-on speaker modules...
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I think I would rather have actual on ceiling speakers.

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I think I would rather have actual on ceiling speakers.
Lots of details to be filled in; I'm not taking a promise of Future Firmware. Want some user reports.

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I think I would rather have actual on ceiling speakers.
Yes I am glad I already have a pair of in ceiling speakers VOG right above the seats so it can rain I wonder if I will feel the heat from the sun?

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If Atmos will be the same "great succes" as Front High and Front Wide speakers (also a way to sell more speakers) it will be a dead born child..........
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I hope so!

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I hope so!


Damn, so no what do I do with my new $15k in speakers?? Put lower fidelity Atmos speakers on top of them? This upgrade sh#t is getting pretty lame....hopefully this gimmick stays in large commercial theaters only. I go for quality speakers over quantity, regardless over the codec.


First it was 3-d and then 4k for TV's, now it's atmos requiring a new AVR and more speakers? What's next and who could afford to upgrade every 3 years? I can't wait to hear a demo of this Atmos setup in an average sized room...I need a good laugh.
Never heard Atmos in a theater, I take it. It can be pretty spectacular. Better listen to a demo of the home version first before you decide no one should enjoy it. You might just run out and want to upgrade... you never know. And the upward firing speaker "modules" are compromises. You should put good, Atmos heights on the ceiling. Hopefully, speaker makers will be releasing matching, wide dispersal monopole ceiling speakers soon that conform to Dolby Atmos specs.
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Nothing wrong with options. Some live and love just 2ch. Some love. 5.1, etc... It would be sad if no new tech hit home theater, . Figure out what YOU want, get it and leave it for what ever time frame keeps you happy. For some Atmos will be night and day, for others hardly noticed, if at all. No rule states any theater must have it "all" to be enjoyed.

My current setup has been running strong for about 5 years with 7ch and I knew (well, speculated ) Atmos was coming. My previous setup lasted me 13 years, I got Dolby Digital (Denon AVR5600) in 1996 when most folks had still never heard of it. I am speaking primary about AVR/SSP and speaker placement, so obviously I have done some here and there with video, etc, but nothing that required changes to the room. For Atmos, I am going to strip down and start again, and my next setup should keep me happy for many years as well.
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Never heard Atmos in a theater, I take it. It can be pretty spectacular. Better listen to a demo of the home version first before you decide no one should enjoy it. You might just run out and want to upgrade... you never know. And the upward firing speaker "modules" are compromises. You should put good, Atmos heights on the ceiling. Hopefully, speaker makers will be releasing matching, wide dispersal monopole ceiling speakers soon that conform to Dolby Atmos specs.



I'll try to keep my comments to myself next time, and apologize for swaying people against ( Atmos ) it.


If things improve I will give it a listen. I just hope it will integrate well with my current speakers...I plan on keeping those until the end.


Enjoy!


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I just thought I'd build a final system and be done with it.
Nothing wrong with that. But why would you hope that everyone else be stuck with your limitations?
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