Artec T3AP-LL=LG tuner
Artec T3AP-LS=Sanyo tuner
Ended up ordering some T3AP-LS's thru Meritline..
1: When asked if Meritline were getting anymore T3AP-LL's... They said they are trying to get in contact with the mfg regarding getting more T3AP-LL's.... But the mfg had not gotten back with them.
2: Meritline said they had 100 T3AP-LS's in-stock
2a: Meritline does NOT have a 1-800... After a wait of 10-15 mins on hold each time I called (I called on "my dime" (3) times getting disconnected each time.) upon finally getting someone on the phone . when I did get someone on the phone they acted "short" with me, like I was "bothering" them.. (Yes I know they are a web-based operation, and they prefer ZERO contact with customers...)
I had (2) very short questions:
A: If they had any LL's on order / Expected ETA of LL's.
B: To verify stock of the LS's.
3: This is on the product page if you read the WHOLE page:
Be aware when ordering if using a converter box coupon.... When you place a order you have to enter the converter box coupon #'s, the expiry date and CCV2# in the "Order Notes section" MANUALLY.
(I placed one order expecting to be rolled over to a page in which you (the customer) enters the info, then are rolled over to a page that asks you to verify all order info before the order is "submitted". None of that at Meritline, nor a way I saw to add the asked for info so I created another order adding the info manually...)
I for sure wasn't to call them again... on my dime...For anyone else in the "market" here is another place selling the T3AP's.Satellite Radio Superstore
An IBSM Inc. Company
7213 Sandscove Court Suite 10
Winter Park, FL 32792
Note for the record that they are responsive to e-mail inquiries.
I e-mailed them last night
regarding the Artec T3AP wanting to know if the units were LL, or LS's and by 9:46am I had a response in my in-box.
Dear Mr. xxxxx,
Thank you for your inquiry. Please be advised that the last shipment of ARTEC T3AP units are coded : LS.
would have had "free" shipping I would preferred going thru them instead of Meritline.
(Reasons 1-800, Lists a physical address, responds to sales inquiries in a timely manner)
Originally Posted by pm3839
i dont think there is much difference between the ARTEC LL and LS....maybe some slightly better/different tuner performance? the tuner in my Artec T3AP is very good....so either way u should be ok...
the guide in my Artec T3AP is NOW/NEXT with a very slow/awkward way to see ahead a few hours but with no program descriptions
....program titles only....but it does give program descriptions for the current and next program....pic and audio quality is very good on both the rf and a/v outputs....and build quality is good....but the remote control has a very narrow angle of acceptance ....its range (distance to unit) is ok but u have to be pointed right at the box to work....
the TR40 aka DTVPal has by FAR
the best epg of any cecb dtv boxes i have used or read about....its well worth a $20 cost after coupon if u can find one somewhere....it also has record timers, a very rare feature....thats what i would get at this point....
i also have the ZINWELL 970A...overall, it works well....no major complaints/problems...worst thing about it is no epg program descriptions...its NOW/NEXT program title only....
as for the AIRLINK, DO NOT
buy one of those ....i had one and it had very poor video quality....and some other minor problems...and their tech support is worthless....i did a review of it here on AVS in the AIRLINK thread....
Thanks for your thoughts... I had considered the AIRLINK unit but decided against it after reading your review. I like you agree that the EPG on the DishNetwork TR-40 /AKA DTVPal, and the DTVPal PLus (while far from perfect) are light years ahead of any of the other CECB tuners on the market.
One last thing and I'll close with this...
1: I bet the persons who wrote up the "rulings" on what could be "included" on a CECB tuners have cable /satellite. I wish every single one of them lose their job and have to go to OTA only..
(Translation: Most politicians, rule makers don't live in the "real-world" that their "rules" affect.)
2: There is alot of talk about "Price-Point" being the reason for a decent guide /S-Video not being included in CECB's as the rule and not the exception. I wonder how much that would have added to the cost if ALL boxes were required to have it.
(I would think the politicians have a "guide" on their cable/satellite box.. I wonder how they'd like it if their "guide" was reduced to the level of non TR-40/DTVPal, DTVPal Plus series units...)
3: I wish the designers, the marketers and yes those lovely lying politicians were "forced" to hear from their wives, girl friends, boyfriends of their "displeasure" of how these CECB's operate.
If I was running things... All units would have a FULL guide, timers that would turn the unit on at a set time, tune to a channel, and S-Video output.
****PS: WHAT REMOTE CODES, or aftermarket remotes work the ARTEC UNITS?
Is this info in the opening post?