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I have the RCA CECB that has a smart antenna input. Does anyone have experience or a evaluation on this antenna. Most all my channels are 20 to 30 miles distant, with another to the side at 45 miles. Post transition, 4.1 is moving from RF 58 to RF 4. Will this antenna work in my area now & later?
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Does anyone have experience or a evaluation on this antenna.

I have one, used with the RJTech (Tivax) receiver. It works well here, I'm in a
similair area to what you describe. It's not a very good antenna at VHF tho.
But, I think it is a good combo, if you consider that the current receivers it wil work with are not HD,and that you can only feed ONE receiver/TV with the antenna, and don't expect to use it for DX'ing.

This combo always "misses" during scan the local PBS station on VHF11. You have to manually enter the channel and then autopeak the antenna and all is fine thereafter. I don't think the problem is the local station.

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I am waiting for a indoor smart antenna
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I am waiting for a indoor smart antenna

So am I. For now I'm using what is suppose to be the best indoor antenna out there. Somebody told me that.

Terk HD-TVA Indoor HDTV Amplified UHF/VHF Antenna (HD-TVA)
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So am I. For now I'm using what is suppose to be the best indoor antenna out there. Somebody told me that........Terk HD-TVA Indoor HDTV Amplified UHF/VHF Antenna (HD-TVA)

What's your DTV reception like using the HDTVa?
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Anyone here actually used a "Smart Antenna"? These seem to be exceedingly rare in retail stores.
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See fol. threads:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=13015675
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1008952

GE webpage still says release on 15 Sept:
http://www.jascoproducts.com/hdtv/GE...al-Antenna.asp

Audiovox/RCA/Terk "sometime this year".

Antennas Direct said early next year.

So DTA-5000 seems to be only "available" smart antenna:
http://www.summitsource.com/dx-anten...00-p-6320.html

PS: Due to size requirements, it will be difficult to build a "good, SMALL" VHF
smart antenna that will be needed post-Feb2009.
DTA-5000 directly addresses the VHF requirement with crossed dipoles....
Most of the other smart antennas seem to be UHF-only or UHF plus "dumb" rabbit ears.....

BTW: You can "hide" DTA-5000 by draping a plastic plant (no metal, no soil) over it.
Or delight in the space age plastic sculpture hanging from the ceiling....
Perhaps you can paint some little space men in the side portholes....
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Post transition, 4.1 is moving from RF 58 to RF 4.

You may want to recheck that. The new TV spectrum will only be 7-13 VHF and 14-52 UHF. 2-6 VHF and 53-69 UHF are being returned for re-allocation.
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Thanks WTP for your help & yo funny remark. I'm saving the chart. And to Holl-ands for the links & pics.. The Smart A might work in my DMA for someone closer in, where VHF 4 is one direction and all the UHF in another direction.

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You may want to recheck that. The new TV spectrum will only be 7-13 VHF and 14-52 UHF. 2-6 VHF and 53-69 UHF are being returned for re-allocation.

This MUST be breaking news. Do you have a link?

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Channels 70-83 were already taken away in 1983 for Cell Phones.
In 1983, Motorola DynaTAC was the first FCC approved mobile phone.
Remember THIS gem, LOL?

The first mobile (cellular) licenses in the US
were granted by the FCC in 1968 though...



But channels 52-69 which are going away next... Not 53-69.

Click HERE for official FCC PDF on subject

FCC PDF Quote:
"Another benefit of this option is that it would allow the spectrum outside the core region to be recovered without a repacking that would force many broadcasters to move to new channels twice. Specifically, this option would permit the eventual recovery of 138 MHz of spectrum nationwide.

This spectrum would be obtained from the lower VHF channels,
i.e. channels 2-6 (54-72 MHz and 76-88 MHz),
and upper UHF channels, i.e., 52-69 (698-806 MHz).

In addition, this option may facilitate the early recovery of a portion of this spectrum.
For example, it may be possible to recover 60 MHz of spectrum almost immediately from the band 746-806 MHz, i.e., UHF channels 60-69

While protecting the relatively few full-service analog and digital broadcasters in that spectrum.

In this regard, we note that only 97 of the almost 1600 television licensees operate on channels 60-69."




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You may want to recheck that. The new TV spectrum will only be 7-13 VHF and 14-52 UHF. 2-6 VHF and 53-69 UHF are being returned for re-allocation.

I count 35 stations on VHF-LOW next year. Maybe 34. Go to this link and type in WHBF. Then click on it. You will see the allocation there.
http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php
WDKY has refiled,abandoning their request for VHF 4. That just leaves us.

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But channels 52-69 which are going away next... Not 53-69.

I was going to originally post 52-69. I just couldn't remember if it was 52 or 53 and played it safe.

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This spectrum would be obtained from the lower VHF channels, i.e. channels 2-6 (54-72 MHz and 76-88 MHz), and upper UHF channels, i.e., 52-69 (698-806 MHz).

Like I said, VHF Channel 4 will not be a digital channel.
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I count 35 stations on VHF-LOW next year. Maybe 34. Go to this link and type in WHBF. Then click on it. You will see the allocation there.
http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php
WDKY has refiled,abandoning their request for VHF 4. That just leaves us.

Why not go directly to the source?
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?state...&slon2=&size=9

This shows the DS (temporary) at 58 and the DT at 4. I don't believe that will stand long or someone has misfiled.

WDKY also shows the same for their DT, while their DS is 56, they also have a DR of 31.

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?state...&slon2=&size=9
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Aug 16 update to fol. website reports 40 DTV on LO-VHF, 450 on HI-VHF and 1327 UHF:
http://www.larrykenney.com/dtvlist.html
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SolidSignal has the DTA-5000 for $89.99.

Disclaimer: I have a minor financial interest in this product.
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