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I was at Target today and saw the Venturer STB7766G box for sale @$47.99. Knowing my 2nd coupon card would be expiring very soon, I threw caution into the wind and bought it.

The unit is very very light, made of plastic, and has an external "brick" power supply (which is why it is so light). To me the design of the bezel makes it look like a mini Tivo Series 3 unit.

It does not have a full EPG, it only gives the info for each channel when you push the "info" button.

I picked up 48 digital channels in the San Gabriel Valley, CA. This is excellent.

Picture quality is outstanding. Just as good as my Insignia.

Left channel bug --- yep, I hear the sloshy sounds on DD 5.1.

The remote is small like the LG Remote. It takes two AAA batteries. I have big hands and I don't have any problem pushing the buttons. I do note that I have to point the remote directly at the unit or it will not recognize any button presses.

I took a picture of the internals:



(shot with an iPhone. worst. photo. ever. ...sorry!)

The stuff you can't see:

1) The Tin Can tuner is an LG. The sticker has TDVG-H052F 802A27110
2) The big chip in the center is an LG and has LGDT1111D 0748 P37929.00
3) The smaller chip to the right says Hynix.
4) The chip above right to the big LG chip says Atmel.

The bottom of the unit indicates it was manufactured March 2008.
Please let me know if you have any questions. I'm not sure what else to say about it.
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Can you post some images I can use for my EPG thread?
  • I know it has no EPG but you could post the others.
  • Channel Information/Program Information
  • Channel Edit/Favorite Edit
  • Unique Feature/Menu Example
Others might want to know the price at Target.

Is anything gained with the Venture by loosing the EPG compared to the Insignia?

I bet they still get the same number of channels, am I correct?

What box operates cooler?
The Venture with plastic case and external power,
or the Insignia with a metal case and internal power?

Thank you.
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Others might want to know the price at Target.

$47.99

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Is anything gained with the Venture by loosing the EPG compared to the Insignia?

Other than a $12.00 savings, there is nothing that I can see that would be gained. Especially since the left channel audio bug exists with this unit as well.

Even WORSE, there is no setting for "Stereo" or "Mono," so either you plug this unit into a mono tv with only the right channel, or you're going to be listening to the problem.

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I bet they still get the same number of channels, am I correct?

That is correct.

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What box operates cooler?
The Venture with plastic case and external power,
or the Insignia with a metal case and internal power?

The Venturer wins. But neither box gets horribly hot in my opinion.

Here are various pics of the GUI. They should be self-explanatory:







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see
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post13892772

Audio problem appears to be fixed post April in LG Zenith DTT900 boxes

is Audio fixed in April+ built Venturer boxes?
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No, I'm torn between an LG box (DTT900, insignia, Venturer) for the 6th gen chipset quality reception and a CM-7000 for its svideo, 12 hr guide, and hot wireable Digital Audio.

My Coupons expire 5/30.
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see
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Audio problem appears to be fixed post April in LG Zenith DTT900 boxes

is Audio fixed in April+ built Venturer boxes?

It's going to be very difficult to tell what build date you get before you buy, since the Venturer boxes are sealed and they do not list this information on them. You can only find the manufacture date by looking at the bottom of the actual unit.
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I kind of like that GUI for the channels and rf channels dispaly.
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Aside from the audio glitch and the lack of a full EPG, I really do like this box. Picture quality is outstanding, reception is excellent, channel changes are fast, and the GUI looks quite professional.

If you don't need the full EPG, I'd say save $12 and get one of these over the LG/Insignia.
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I returned the GE to Target yesterday, and exchanged it for
the Venturer.

I wanted to make sure I would get a real receipt after the
exchange. Target has a 90 day return policy -- and somewhere
down the line they are likely to get some different models.
(Buying here could be a good idea for those with expiring coupons!)
There was no problem with the return -- the new receipt listed the
full CECB coupon value.

The picture quality on the Venturer is definitely better than the
GE. It's as good as the Philco.

This is a very small box with ventillation holes along the side. It
has an external adapter -- but it is small and slim (like a dsl modem
or router adapter), so only takes up one plug. There is a red standby
light that is on all the time, but not as large as the GE light.

One nice touch -- the box includes a page with codes for many
brands of universal remotes.

Setup was fast, once I realized it comes set for channel 4 (not 3)!
Very fast scan of the channels. Picked up all the same channels as
the Philco and GE.

Channel change is very fast -- faster even than the GE! The remote
is small (they seem to be getting smaller with each model I try!), but
has the best buttons so far. The menu, channel change, and volume
buttons are somewhat large and easy to push.

Direct channel change requires only one button (like the Philco) -- the GE
required 3 buttons! Channel change is much faster than the Philco.
I really like this feature. It's a toss-up which I like best -- the Philco
or the Venturer. The Philco has the pass-through audio which is useful
now when I switch to the VCRs. There is supposed to be another Venturer
model (with a 1 following the number) with pass through, but Target doesn't
have it.

There is a signal strength button on the remote -- reacts instantly.

The Venturer doesn't have an EPG -- just an info. But for me that's
a minor flaw -- I don't seem to be using the EPG anyway.

Picture quality was generally very good, but there was a lot of pixillation and
breakup and even no signal on one group of marginal channels (22 and
subchannels). All the major networks were fine. Kind of odd though --
the GE got the 22 group OK, and had trouble with CBS and CW. Maybe the
reception was particularly bad last night.

So far I like this model -- I would like it a little better with some kind
of EPG and pass through. But the quick channel change makes it a
pleasure to use.
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Originally Posted by Kiri View Post

I returned the GE to Target yesterday, and exchanged it for
the Venturer.

I wanted to make sure I would get a real receipt after the
exchange. Target has a 90 day return policy -- and somewhere
down the line they are likely to get some different models.
(Buying here could be a good idea for those with expiring coupons!)
There was no problem with the return -- the new receipt listed the
full CECB coupon value.

The picture quality on the Venturer is definitely better than the
GE. It's as good as the Philco.

This is a very small box with ventillation holes along the side. It
has an external adapter -- but it is small and slim (like a dsl modem
or router adapter), so only takes up one plug. There is a red standby
light that is on all the time, but not as large as the GE light.

One nice touch -- the box includes a page with codes for many
brands of universal remotes.

Setup was fast, once I realized it comes set for channel 4 (not 3)!
Very fast scan of the channels. Picked up all the same channels as
the Philco and GE.

Channel change is very fast -- faster even than the GE! The remote
is small (they seem to be getting smaller with each model I try!), but
has the best buttons so far. The menu, channel change, and volume
buttons are somewhat large and easy to push.

Direct channel change requires only one button (like the Philco) -- the GE
required 3 buttons! Channel change is much faster than the Philco.
I really like this feature. It's a toss-up which I like best -- the Philco
or the Venturer. The Philco has the pass-through audio which is useful
now when I switch to the VCRs. There is supposed to be another Venturer
model (with a 1 following the number) with pass through, but Target doesn't
have it.

There is a signal strength button on the remote -- reacts instantly.

The Venturer doesn't have an EPG -- just an info. But for me that's
a minor flaw -- I don't seem to be using the EPG anyway.

Picture quality was generally very good, but there was a lot of pixillation and
breakup and even no signal on one group of marginal channels (22 and
subchannels). All the major networks were fine. Kind of odd though --
the GE got the 22 group OK, and had trouble with CBS and CW. Maybe the
reception was particularly bad last night.

So far I like this model -- I would like it a little better with some kind
of EPG and pass through. But the quick channel change makes it a
pleasure to use.

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QuoteI returned the GE to Target yesterday, and exchanged it for
the Venturer),i also bought the ge 22729 a few days ago at target and agree that the video quality is not that good compared to the other cecb converter boxes but how is the audio with your venturer box?does it sound as good as the ge box or does it have the left channel audio problem and lower volume like others have said?
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I think the LG audio problems only show up for people with fancy
stereo setups. The Venturer audio is fine for me, but I only have
an ordinary non-stereo TV, not hooked up through any external
stereo system.

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QuoteI returned the GE to Target yesterday, and exchanged it for
the Venturer),i also bought the ge 22729 a few days ago at target and agree that the video quality is not that good compared to the other cecb converter boxes but how is the audio with your venturer box?does it sound as good as the ge box or does it have the left channel audio problem and lower volume like others have said?

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I have both the Insignia and the Venturer box. Although they both detect 12 channels in my area (located below a ridge and never had good tv reception) the Insignia clearly has a more sensitive tuner.

The Insignia has 2-3 channels that occasionally break up due to a weak signal; however, the Venturer there are several channels that are not viewable at all since the box reports "No signal" or the picture constantly pixelates. I am using an old rabbit ears antenna, a better antenna may help.

When the Venturer receives a good signal the picture quality equals the Insignia. My Insignia date of manufacture is March 2008 and has the "audio" bug, the Venturer date is April 2008 and the sound seems fine (on a mono Phillips tv).

In my opinion, the channel info display is somewhat better on the Insignia, simply because they have a better color scheme (the Venturer has the program name in a black font with a gray background).

Both boxes will be warm to the touch after an hour or more of use, but not anything to be concerned about. Another note, for the Venturer I've program med my older OneForAll remote to control the box (only channel change, prev. channel, and power).

My recommendation, if you are in a fringe area the Insignia definitely has a better tuner.
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Do the analog CC's go up to CC3 and CC4 on this box?
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Do the analog CC's go up to CC3 and CC4 on this box?

Yes.

It also has Text1 - Text4.
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Picture quality was generally very good, but there was a lot of pixillation and breakup and even no signal on one group of marginal channels (22 and subchannels). All the major networks were fine. Kind of odd though -- the GE got the 22 group OK, and had trouble with CBS and CW. Maybe the reception was particularly bad last night.

Kiri, have these reception problems continued? The Venturer reportedly uses similar tuning technology to the LG Zenith/Insignia CECBs. Have you tried a different antenna or antenna location?

Dokken2 also reported that the Venturer box had somewhat less RF sensitivity than the LG/Insignia.
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hello,

I'm from Brazil and the TVs there are going all digital this year and a converter will be needed. I wonder if the boxes available for the american market would work over there, or it could be a different type of signal or frequency, or digital tv signal is all the same all over the world. Thank you

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I'm from Brazil and the TVs there are going all digital this year and a converter will be needed. I wonder if the boxes available for the American market would work over there, or it could be a different type of signal or frequency, or digital tv signal is all the same all over the world.

Andre: The U.S. and Brazil use completely different digital TV systems.

The U.S. Government has selected the ATSC system for digital TV.

Brazil has selected the SVBDT system for digital TV.

A U.S. DTV converter box won't help you receive Brazilian DTV.
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I am very happy with my Venturer boxes. I have three TVs using Magnavoxes (the kids' bedrooms have the MW9 and the family room has an MG9) and two Venturers in our bedroom and the den. In comparing them all, I have to give the overall PQ, sound and user-friendliness kudos to the Venturer. Even though the Venturer's remote is smaller, it's easier to use.

Evidently the sound issue was fixed by the time mine were built; both are April 2008 production, and I notice nothing unusual. Our ABC station has started having audio problems occasionally, but that isn't the box; all five of them picked it up. I contacted the station and was told it is in their feed from ABC. They are working on it.

Tuner sensitivity is much better in the Venturer as well. I can lock onto distant channels with the Venturers that the Magnavoxes can only dream of, although all pick up our locals just fine.

I like the capability to lock out certain subchannels at will; our local NBC station once had "The Tube" on one, and since that went by the wayside, all they show on there is a message about "Due to circumstances beyond our control ..." yada, yada, yada. Didn't want to see that as I flip through channels, so out it went.

The price of the box was nice, too. I exchanged a GE for the second one, after trying very hard to like that one. It just didn't work well for me. The Venturer just does what it's supposed to do.
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Kiri, have these reception problems continued? The Venturer reportedly uses similar tuning technology to the LG Zenith/Insignia CECBs. Have you tried a different antenna or antenna location?

Dokken2 also reported that the Venturer box had somewhat less RF sensitivity than the LG/Insignia.

Generally the reception is good, but from time to time there are the problems
I mentioned. However this is also true of the other boxes I tried. So I would
say it is mostly related to fluctuations in signal strength, weather, antenna
position, and other interferences that come and go.

I started with the Philco, and it must have been a lucky reception time --
because there were no problems at first. But after switching from the
Venturer back to the Philco for general use (because I want the pass-through
right now, not because of reception), the Philco also showed occasional
problems.

So, I think the Philco might be a bit better than the Venturer, but unless I
quickly change from one to the other, it's very hard to compare. When I
decided to try that, the Venturer stopped having any problems -- so the
test was inconclusive.
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got one today at Target, reception wise and also PQ wise it doesn't outperform my Radio Shack Accurian, surprising because the Accurian is an older 4th generation design. The picture quality of the Venturer is pretty decent, but nothing to write home about. Somewhat disappointing to read that the Insignia ( and obviously all the other LG based boxes) is very similar in pq.
I'll hold onto it for 3 months, then exchange it for whatever newer (better?) boxes might be available.
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I am very happy with my Venturer boxes. I have three TVs using Magnavoxes (the kids' bedrooms have the MW9 and the family room has an MG9) and two Venturers in our bedroom and the den. In comparing them all, I have to give the overall PQ, sound and user-friendliness kudos to the Venturer. Even though the Venturer's remote is smaller, it's easier to use.

Evidently the sound issue was fixed by the time mine were built; both are April 2008 production, and I notice nothing unusual. Our ABC station has started having audio problems occasionally, but that isn't the box; all five of them picked it up. I contacted the station and was told it is in their feed from ABC. They are working on it.

Tuner sensitivity is much better in the Venturer as well. I can lock onto distant channels with the Venturers that the Magnavoxes can only dream of, although all pick up our locals just fine.

I like the capability to lock out certain subchannels at will; our local NBC station once had "The Tube" on one, and since that went by the wayside, all they show on there is a message about "Due to circumstances beyond our control ..." yada, yada, yada. Didn't want to see that as I flip through channels, so out it went.

The price of the box was nice, too. I exchanged a GE for the second one, after trying very hard to like that one. It just didn't work well for me. The Venturer just does what it's supposed to do.

Hi,i also bought the GE at target and i think i will return it for the venturer but how is the audio level compared to the GE?i know you said the audio glitch problem is solved in the venturer(april 2008),i just want to know if it sounds as good as the GE or is the venturer audio level still much lower than the GE?
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Quote: (The price of the box was nice, too. I exchanged a GE for the second one, after trying very hard to like that one. It just didn't work well for me. The Venturer just does what it's supposed to do.)

I also bought the GE and i think i will also return it for the venturer(april 2008) or later date but i would like to know if the venturers audio is still lower in volume compared to the GE?i'am not talking about the left channel audio problem that you said seems to be fixed just the audio levels between the two units.
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Purchased one at Targets in Westboro, MA. Was waiting for DTVPAL from Disk
Network but still no info after signing up for email. Very pleased so far with over
25 channels using the UHF portion of Radio Shack UHF/VHF Antenna. My wife
called for our 2nd coupon and will use that to buy the DTVPAL when it becomes
available. Don't miss the guide that much. Unit runs very cool and no audio bug
with March 2008 manufactured date.
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no audio bug with March 2008 manufactured date.

mine is an April 2008, I do hear exaggerated sibilant "s" sounds on most programming and on viewing Jurassic Park on the CW11 yesterday, a steady background hiss could be heard throughout the movie (possibly that had more to do with the station and/or the source) , most other programming has completely silent backgrounds.
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I was at Target today and saw the Venturer STB7766G box for sale @$47.99.

Venturer Digital Converter Box at Target
Four guest reviews with mixed opinions.
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I have looked thru the instruction manual several times to make sure I didnt overlook this, but all I have is a separate addendum sheet with some codes.

What is the procedure to program the codes in the remote?

Also, I hear the hissing sound thru the speakers when the mute is on, this is the audio bug that is discussed on the forum?

Thanks,
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the audio bug is left channel sibilance that affects LG chip based boxes like the Zenith, Insignia, and Venturer, when someone says something that ends in "s", there's an annoying, somewhat hissy audio after effect, you'll definitely notice it if you listen for it. the problem has been eliminated in April 2008 Zenith boxes, don't know about Insignia and Venturers.
I noticed yesterday Target raised the price to 49.99.
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The Venturer CECB must be selling pretty well, this is a 4% price increase.
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no one really seems to be buying the GE and Venturers here at the Target in Queens, and the coupon I gave the cashier girl was the first she'd seen.
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