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I noticed that it says this unit is currently NTIA-approved and available on the website. Sorry for making another dtvpal thread, but this is a different version. I'm not sure what the differences are between the Plus and tr40cra/dtvpal. I just thought if anyone found any info for the DTVPal Plus, then this thread would be useful for its discussion.

I'm guessing that next week they will have hopefully some type of announcement?

If the moderators think we should discuss the DTVPal Plus in the tr40 threads then feel free to delete my thread
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I'm guessing that next week they will have hopefully some type of announcement?

Why do you think they will have an announcement next week?
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cause it seems like it was recently moved from the unavailable list to the available list. it's just pure speculation on my part. Hopefully they will have some type of announcement so we know what this unit is and why it contains a plus in its name.
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cause it seems like it was recently moved from the unavailable list to the available list. it's just pure speculation on my part. Hopefully they will have some type of announcement so we know what this unit is and why it contains a plus in its name.

the "plus" is short for "plus working timers"
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the "plus" is short for "plus working timers"

haha yeah...maybe it is! I can't seem to order the tr40cra knowing potentially there is something that works upcoming in the mix....
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haha yeah...maybe it is! I can't seem to order the tr40cra knowing potentially there is something that works upcoming in the mix....


While I really dont know what the "plus" means, the TR-40 does actually work so far with respect to the timers.

as long as your coupons arent expiring soon, you can afford to hold off. most places need at least 3 business days to process your coupons though, so keep that in mind.
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the "plus" is short for "plus working timers"

or "pot luck: users suffer."
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maybe it's the renamed tr50
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Oh, no, not another PAL thread.
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Could it be the version with a Silicon tuner? The DTVpal has a can tuner.
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While I really dont know what the "plus" means, the TR-40 does actually work so far with respect to the timers.

Not true. The TR40 doesn't mess with events, but there are still timer issues with verision 103.
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For those desiring a working DVR or VCR Timer box, I tested the Zinwell ZAT and it worked flawlessly. The clock lost about 20 seconds over two weeks time, but that's still a lot more accurate than how my DTVpal operates (randomly gaining or losing an hour).

I'm selling my three DTVpals as soon as I can list them on Ebay. I might keep one for a spare... we'll see how it turns out.

I guess I'll definitely be getting a zinwell then

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maybe it's the renamed tr50

it can't be the tr50 cause that one is not eligible for the converter box coupon program.
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Could it be the version with a Silicon tuner? The DTVpal has a can tuner.

Would be nice if it had a Silicon Optix tuner - maybe it would improve that ultra-soft picture quality some.
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I'm selling my three DTVpals as soon as I can list them on Ebay. I might keep one for a spare... we'll see how it turns out.

Yeah, the ONLY reason I'm even keeping mine is I'm hoping they get that TVGOS thing in order.

If it looks like a definite no go, then I won't hesitate to dump it.

That's really the only reason I bought it - the timers and/or guide were not that important to me, personally.

If I do end up keeping it, I'll probably drill some ventilation holes into the darned thing, at least.
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Yeah, the ONLY reason I'm even keeping mine is I'm hoping they get that TVGOS thing in order.

If it looks like a definite no go, then I won't hesitate to dump it.

That's really the only reason I bought it - the timers and/or guide were not that important to me, personally.

If I do end up keeping it, I'll probably drill some ventilation holes into the darned thing, at least.

I already drilled a bunch of 1/4" holes in mine and I stand it up vertically. It does run cooler and mine stopped doing the random "picture goes black and white" thing it had been doing after it ran a while.

Surprising how hot this thing gets even when it is OFF.
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Yeah, to get people's attention they could title it "IF YOU WANT A CECB BOX WITH TIMERS THAT REALLY WORK" in all capital letters.
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I already drilled a bunch of 1/4" holes in mine and I stand it up vertically. It does run cooler and mine stopped doing the random "picture goes black and white" thing it had been doing after it ran a while.

Surprising how hot this thing gets even when it is OFF.

bountyh- did you take the covers apart before you drilled the holes? Sounds risky if not.

Have TR40 on order & also plan to vent it.
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Doesn't the Plus indicate S-video?
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Does it? Sorry - didn't know that. Oh, well, then that's enough of a reason to start a whole new thread on it, I guess.

Seriously, there's only one thing that needs to be said about that then - I hope it improves the picture quality at least - because it can certainly use it.
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bountyh- did you take the covers apart before you drilled the holes? Sounds risky if not.

Damn..... that would have worked BETTER......

Yeah, I took it apart first. I wanted to check out the components. At least they are using decent quality Nichicon electrolytic caps. It isn't a bad looking PCB, obviously got rushed out the door halfway through the development cycle.
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Damn..... that would have worked BETTER......

Yeah, I took it apart first. I wanted to check out the components. At least they are using decent quality Nichicon electrolytic caps. It isn't a bad looking PCB, obviously got rushed out the door halfway through the development cycle.

how did you get yours apart...I took one of the rubber feet off mine but didnt see a screw. Do you have to just pop it apart?
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how did you get yours apart...I took one of the rubber feet off mine but didnt see a screw. Do you have to just pop it apart?

On the rear panel there are two slots. Apply pressure through one slot with the tip of a screwdriver and pry apart the edges near it and it should start to separate. Do the other one and the boxes should pop apart.
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For those desiring a working DVR or VCR Timer box, I tested the Zinwell ZAT and it worked flawlessly. The clock lost about 20 seconds over two weeks time, but that's still a lot more accurate than how my DTVpal operates (randomly gaining or losing an hour).

I'm selling my three DTVpals as soon as I can list them on Ebay. I might keep one for a spare... we'll see how it turns out.

You left out that it has an (extremely annoying!) 24 hour clock and timers, has no EPG and has been proven to be unreliable (in relation to the clock) by users here on this forum......
...... it's basically a misguided experimental version of what a (better) CECB should be!!
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......What DTVPal Plus?......so far it's a phantom!

dtvpal.com has it listed on it's website for sale.
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Oooh! With an "enhanced" digital tuner! For $69.99!

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DTVPal Plus has the same features and functionality of the DTVPal but includes an enhanced digital tuner. This tuner enables consumers to get even better reception in weak signal conditions such as with indoor antennas or for distant TV signal transmitters. DTVPal Plus is the second generation of DTVPal and is priced at $29.99 with a $40 government coupon.


I love the digital transition. The voices in my head just say 0 and 1 now.
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Wow!! It has the "NEW enhanced digital tuner!" I gotta get me one.
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You have got to be kidding me. So every time they make a small design modification they're gonna jack the price up and and give it a another name?

I'd wait a couple more months for the DTVPal Plus One for only $89.99. It's just like the Plus but with better capacitors...
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What doesn't make sense is, why didn't marketing name the first one DTVPal Minus?
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heres my question...why bother updating the tuner and not adding in S-video. thats just silly. it seems like they sent it out as soon as they could get something changed.

additionally...what are they gonna do with all the DTVPals they have now...who's gonna buy a DTVPal when they can buy a Plus for 10 bucks more?
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Has anyone read if the Plus will be sold at the retailers like Sears?

Maybe if I wait, the TR40-CRA Plus will show up and I can save $20...
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