Originally Posted by TalkingRat
I'm with you , Systems2000, quick reply where possible.
Exactly, "quick reply where possible
", or as I have been saying, a quick reply when one is not replying to anything specific!!
My computer fan is on a lot and unresponsive, so why add unnecessary page changes? Plus, some info is hidden in the long reply format.
What the heck does a computer fan have to do with changes on a webpage?? Active thread pages here are going to change regardless of whether or not someone quotes or not!
If one is going to reply to a thread, and, reply to a specific question
, then what the heck difference does it make to a PC fan if "Quote" is used? I suggest you get your PC fixed so others are able to get the most from a thread. You want your posts, your replies to count for something, don't you?? Do you not want your helpful replies to be of benefit to everyone, without causing them uncalled for unnecessary work?
Since the OP is counting himself among the "2 posters" with opinions, now there are two on the other side who say don't quote unless there are conversations separating the related posts.
If you would like to turn my thread into a netiquette poll thread, I would be glad to join you on a new thread dedicated to this.
Excessive quoting doubles the page length and makes it harder to scroll through pages and read through a reply.
Totally irrelevant! Page lengths are fixed! C'mon, a page is only a specific length. This does not change with the amounts of replies, or quotes. A completed forum "page" is X kb in size, regardless of the amount of quotes. Now the length of a thread
can change with no quotes, sure. But what good is that to ones that are trying to read the thread and are forced to have to do endless searches and clicks in order to find out what the hell an answer is in answer TO??
You wanna talk about "excessive scrolling" and page turns, that'll do it!
And how is it any harder to scroll through a forum page with respect to the number of quotes??? Scrolling is scrolling, your scroll wheel requires no more effort on a page full of nothing but replies, or a page full of quotes. What about all the unnecessary posts where people have to ASK what something is about! Many posts that would otherwise not ever have to be posted if someone would have quoted!
If it isn't needed, it's clutter.
Again, I totally agree! IF
it's not needed! But the fact I had to ask at least once about specific posts obviously indicated they WERE needed in those cases!
There were no conversations separating the question and answer, just a two word comment from the OP.
Irrelevant. As someone else pointed out, how to do you know how many are replying, while YOU are in the process of replying??
And if the OP isn't following a thread closely, then who is? It was obvious which question.
So now I'm being accused of ignoring posts?? If I were not following my own freakin' thread, then I would not have replied to the damn post in the first place!!
If Systems2000 were referring to a question way upthread, that's when it needs an extended reference, but not necessarily quoting.
So you think it best to make more work for everyone to have to search through an entire freakin' thread to find to what the person is responding? Which is more "lazy": One that refuses to click "Quote" instead of "Reply", or, one that doesn't think it should be necessary to have to keep asking things like "What is that in reference to", or to having to potentially waste hours to search through threads in order to find proper context and what an blank answer is in reply TO??
Do you enjoy listening to one-sided telephone conversations, and you are able to understand EVERYTHING about that conversation? Of course not.
How would like to receive a transcript of a support chat session, and have it only include the text from ONE contributor???? Oh that would be nice. How can anyone refer back to that transcript and make any sense out of it!
How much sense would this post make if I would not have quoted your text in the areas above!?!?!
Now much sense, and help, do posts such as those 4 examples above give????? Do they make more sense, and are they of any help, compared to this:
Are there any firmware updates for [blah]?
That example immediately above, requires absolutely no guessing, nor any uncalled for searching on anyone's part! It is concise, in full context, and of total help to anyone wondering the same thing. And might I add, it didn't require anymore "work" on the part of the one that replied! In fact, I'm beginning to think that not quoting is just out of pure spite!
I can't actually believe I'm even having to explain any of this BS.
If you or anyone still feels the need to morph this thread into a forum issue thread, then please start a new thread.
I made a simple polite request
, and any further "netiquette" propagation which that has spawned is uncalled for. You want to talk about making threads longer, now look what's happened to this one!