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 *Note: I've learned that the 'marketing con game' has worked its way into these consumer reviews by 'loading' them with fake positive reviews. So I've learned to spend more time on analyzing the negative reviews.
Funny story - we were shopping at Amazon for a pizza cutter a week ago. Some reviewers for Amazon's "top selling" pizza cutter actually ADMITTED they had been given this supposedly state-of-the-art pizza cutter for FREE if they agreed to submit a product review. They'd say something like "even if I had paid full price for this item, I'd still give it five stars...." (yada, yada,yada).
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Funny story - we were shopping at Amazon for a pizza cutter a week ago. Some reviewers for Amazon's "top selling" pizza cutter actually ADMITTED they had been given this supposedly state-of-the-art pizza cutter for FREE if they agreed to submit a product review. They'd say something like "even if I had paid full price for this item, I'd still give it five stars...." (yada, yada,yada).
Yeah and they probably fear giving a bad review that they might not get more free offers. Marketing psychology at it's best!

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Never heard of this one before, stumbled across it in a local CL ad:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/DIGITREX-A...ntrol/25963174

Has HDMI output and "NTSC and PAL auto switch." Sketchy customer review distribution though.
Another one stumbled across via CL:

http://www.naxa.com/nt-52.html#1

Looks good on 'paper' with component output (1080p?) and USB port for recording and playback options. Unfortunately poor, albeit dated, reviews; appeared to be software buggy. Looks like Walmart, Frys, Radio Shack, Amazon, TigerDirect, etc.

Interesting I keep finding these sketchy-reviewed boxes sold at Walmart on Craigslist...

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Used boxes from the 2008-2009 CECB program are becoming easier to find

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[B]......The reason for this thread is the DISCUSSION OF DEALS, LINKS TO VENDORS WHO ARE STILL STOCKING CONVERTER BOXES....
Over the past few months, I have started seeing more and more digital converter boxes from the 2008-2009 period for reasonable prices, although often missing the original remote control. Used converter boxes are no longer rare and no longer command high resale prices at Amazon Marketplace, on Craigslist or at thrift stores.

The good news: what many of us consider to be the best CECBs, those made by LG and sold under the Zenith and Insignia brands, are becoming surprisingly common on the used market. Thrift store pricing tends to run between $7 and $15, with or without the remote. Interestingly, I'm seeing the same price ranges for other CECB brands such as Philco, Magnavox and RCA.

The bad news: Of the CECBs with detachable power cords, far too many are missing the actual power cord. This makes the unit undesirable in terms of the hassle and/or expense of acquiring the correct replacement with the correct voltage.

In some cases - notably the Zenith (DTT-900, DTT-901) and Insignia (NS-DXA1 and NS-DXA1-APT) - quite a few of the 2008-2009 Digital TV Conversion CECBs use better parts and are more durable than many of the cheaply-built converter boxes being sold today, such as those offered under the Craig and Naxa brands. Anyone else remember the days when the Craig brand name represented its market position as the king of automotive 8-track tape players?? While the RCA DTA-800B1 is still being sold brand-new at Walmart and other retailers, it's not exactly the same converter box which was designed for the 2008-2009 Digital TV Conversion. Some features were stripped out, without changing the product number, and the quality control may not be as good.

So before spending $50 or $60 on a brand-new el-cheapo converter box, review these threads and look into buying a used CECB from 2008-2009, particularly the LG/Zenith/Insignia boxes. Your vintage pre-2007 television will thank you for it!

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I just got a new (Open Box) Insignia box (for $23.54 shipped!).

There's a Spanish manual.

Is it supposed to come with an English manual?















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I just got a new (Open Box) Insignia box (for $23.54 shipped!).

There's a Spanish manual.

Is it supposed to come with an English manual?
Might do a manual search using the model number and see what was offered. Don't know what Mexico did as far as OTA. I suspect they misplaced the manual so the box may not be as new as you think.

Lucky me I bought a used DVDR and saw a manual still wrapped in plastic was inside the box; turned out it was Arabic or somesuch (Middle East region 2 model). Everything about the unit and remote is English though so I think they misplace the English manual.

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We still use a CECB connected to one of our home's CRTs, currently it's connected to a Zinwell ZAT-970. I have several of the LG-designed Zenith/Insignia CECBs and remotes, as well as one each of the Magnavox, Digitalstream, RCA and Channel Master converter boxes.

The market for converter boxes has stabilized, top-rated models from Zenith and Insignia are no longer commanding steep second-hand prices, some CECBs are showing up at thrift stores, and a few post-2009-conversion boxes are being sold as "video accessories" in stores.

Many Americans have replaced their pre-2007 television sets with newer flat-panel TVs equipped with ATSC tuners. Accordingly, a steady trickle of those 2008-2009 CECBs are being sold inexpensively at yard sales, thrift stores and swap meets.

I don't know whether the quality, durability and performance of current-model brand-new digital TV converter boxes are any better than the older units from 2008-2009. It's not hard to find used units, and it's not hard to find "new" units anymore but the original CECBs actually had to meet certain government specifications for tuner performance. If you want to keep enjoying your heavy-duty 1980s-vintage Sony Trinitron or RCA XL-100 television for viewing local television programming, you'll probably be happier buying a used CECB than the "brand new" but extremely cheap-quality converter boxes bearing brands like Craig, Supersonic and Naxa.

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Well [Zenith/Insignia] maybe top-rated per consumer demand, but mid-rated per consumerreports.org.
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On the new front don't leave out the ones with HDMI, USB to allow recording, and what other features they've thrown in. Now I don't know the quality but folks here seem to be OK with them thus far. Another factor with 'truly new' designs is that they should incorporate the most recent chipsets which 'should' result in superior reception and PQ.

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