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Studio and Year: 20th Century Fox - 1962
MPAA Rating: G
Feature running time: 178 Minutes
Genre: War Drama

Disc Format: BD-50
Encoding: MPEG-4 (AVC)
Video Aspect: 2.35:1
Resolution: 1080p/24


Audio Format(s): English DTS-HD 5.1 Master Lossless, English Dolby Surround, French Mono
Subtitles: English, Mandarin, Cantonese
Starring: John Wayne, Richard Burton, Robert Mitchum, Red Buttons, Henry Fonda, Peter Lawford, Steve Forrest, Robert Wagner, Rod Steiger
Directed by: Ken Annakin, Andrew Marton, Bernhard Wicki, Darryl F. Zanuck (uncredited)
Music by: Paul Anka
Written by: Cornelius Ryan
Region Code: A

Blu-ray Disc release Date: June 3, 2008







"Never so timely, never so great"



Film Synopsis:


With an all-star cast including John Wayne, Henry Fonda, Richard Burton, Sean Connery, Robert Mitchum, Rod Steiger and Peter Lawford, to name a few, the Academy Award-winning epic THE LONGEST DAY (1962, Fox) recounts one of the largest and greatest military missions in history; the triumph and tragedy of the World War II heroes as they stormed the Normandy Beach on D-Day.



My Take:

June 6, 1944, a day to remember. The Longest Day is a film that details the 24 hour period where Allied forces invaded German occupied France during World War II. This was a pivotal point in the war and one that cost the lives of many Allied soldiers in that effort. It holds special meaning for many of us as well as significant importance to the outcome of the war.

I think that as viewers we tend to watch movies without having a true appreciation for what goes on behind the scenes. In a case like this one there was much going on and had it not been for the passion and vision of one man this important film would never have come to fruition. Darryl F. Zanuck was the literally the glue that held The Longest Day together. That is not to take anything away from the 3 directors, production staff or the cast in any way. The bonus features included in this two disc set provide much more detail into his role in its making so I will leave that for viewers to see on their own. I felt that is was important that I mention it.

This is truly epic style movie making at its best. Huge set pieces, amazing (at the time) special effects, extensive and superb casting (43 international stars !), and collaborative direction. The painstaking attention to detail and elaborate reproduction of the pivotal events that surrounded D-Day are what makes this such a wonderful and classic movie. Zanuck made a controversial decision to film The Longest in black and white because he wanted it to have documentary style feel to it. He also had the foresight to have the German and French perspectives spoken in their native languages and subtitled in English. This added a layer of realism in the story’s telling. It was nominated for 5 Academy Awards and won for Best Cinematography and Best Special Effects.

The visual and sound effects are certainly dated by today’s standards. The shooting of the large sequences and brilliant art direction is something that definitely did not feel that way. I suspect that others have copied some of the successful elements used in this film.

The casting was incredible and included so many familiar faces, both at the star level and up and coming star level. The seasoned actors were simply incredible and provided a solid foundation for the performance aspects in the movie. I had never seen The Longest Day before this viewing. The fact that it was filmed over 45 years ago didn’t concern me going in. For me a great movie is a great movie. When I finished watching it I felt as though I was fortunate. I felt a true appreciation for the work that went into it and for those who it documented. We all know about D-Day and there have been other great films that have covered its subject. This is the one that covers it from a perspective that should make us all proud to Americans.




Parental Guide:

The G rating surprised me. There is no graphic violence however it does depict war violence (people being shot and death). These shots contain no bloodshed or morbid details.






AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100 / EXCELLENT = 83-91 / GOOD = 74-82 / AVERAGE = 65-73 / BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

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Audio: 72



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The longest day comes to Blu-ray Disc featuring 1080p AVC encoded video with an average bitrate of 24 mbps and DTS-HD Master Audio Lossless sound with an average bitrate of 3.1 mbps.

This is the first Blu-ray Disc review of a black and white film that I have had the pleasure of doing. Looking at the film from a colorless aspect took some getting used to. Once that was done I was able to appreciate how wonderfully detailed this presentation is. Close ups revealed lots of fine articulation in the faces, hair and clothing worn by the cast members. Some have very expressive features, like John Wayne for instance, where high definition reveals every crack, crows foot, and wrinkle. Things that might otherwise be missed like tiny droplets of water (like dew) laying on the surface of clothing and hair had distinctive shapes and texture to them. Object detail in both interior and exterior shots was delivered quite well. This added a wonderful sense of depth to the image which made it appear more lifelike. Blacks had plenty of dynamic range and consistency which played very well against the various gray tones. Gray tones had plenty of variation so that images looked dimensionally diverse rather than a single shade of gray. Shadow detail and visible structure to objects contained in low light or dark areas looked great most of the time. Even in black and white it was easy to make out the different tonal qualities contained within the skin tones of the cast. I think that it was interesting to see how they appeared without color. I can’t say for sure how well this would have come across in standard definition but in HD it was noticeable. Grain was visible at times but it was in fine layers and appeared to be preserved just fine. I saw no signs of video noise or compression related artifacts. Keep in mind that this is a 40 plus year old film and some of the film effects are pretty dated. As a result fidelity in some scenes varied a bit but nothing that resulted in measurable degradation.

The audio presentation had elements that reminded me a bit of Patton in that it lacked the palpable dynamic range, engaging sound design and crystal clarity of the better soundtracks of today. Dialogue sounded excellent through the center channel as tonal characteristics in voices among the cast was clearly audible. The front three channels carried the majority of the sound associated with the mix which left it feeling less dimensional. The front sound stage was wide enough that it didn’t sound compressed. Panning sequences matched the onscreen information quite well which was a plus. Low frequency detail was not prevalent but when it was mixed to the subwoofer it had solid weight to it. Some notable examples are when the train is derailed by the French resistance, the exploding anti aircraft flak fired by the Germans and the truck explosion during the Allied capture of the bridge. These scenes contained respectable LFE output. The films score wasn’t very memorable and didn’t really play a part in the story telling. Although one thing did stand out. The music used to represent the Germans on several occasions reminded me of the beginning moments of the theme to the 1960’s TV series Hogan’s Heroes.



Bonus Features:



The bonus set included with this two disc Fox Blu-ray release of The longest Day is loaded with informative facts about the film, its subject, and the film makers who brought it to the big screen. Disc 1 contains two commentary tracks, one with Historian Mary Corey and the other with Director Ken Annakin. Both offer a unique perspective of the events and the film through these two knowledgeable people. Disc 2 is a standard definition DVD and contains the bulk of the supplements. A Day to Remember is probably the most comprehensive look at the films production as told by British Director Ken Annakin. AMC Channel’s Backstory documentary provides a deeper look at Darryl F. Zanuch and the internal struggles that surrounded the film and the studio at the time. The D-Day revisited is a filmed documentary shot in 1968 and hosted by Darryl F. Zanuck. It looks at the landing locations in Normandy 25 years after the invasion and contains footage from the film depicting those areas. The Salute to Courage feature looks at some of the real people who were there on that historic day in June 1944. The last featurette is a short one where Richard Zanuck talks about his father and his legacy. Trailers for Patton and Tora Tora Tora round out the feature set. This inside look at The Longest Day is definitely time well spent.



Disc 1:


  • Historical commentary with Mary Corey

  • Film Commentary with Ken Annakin


Disc 2:

  • A Day to Remember - featurette

  • Longest Day: A Salute to Courage - featurette

  • AMC Backstory - The Longest Day

  • D-Day Revisited - Documentary

  • Richard Zanuck, on the Longest Day - featurette

  • Still gallery

  • Original theatrical trailer




Final Thoughts:



The Longest Day is a film of great significance not only for its historical value but as a creative work. I was touched by the dedication of the film makers who did their absolute best to ensure that this retelling of the D-Day invasion in Normandy France was as close as possible to what transpired that fateful day. Fox Blu-ray has provided a superb package which includes excellent video quality, and comprehensive bonus features. If like me you have never seen this classic film then you can feel free to pick it up with confidence. Highly Recommended.







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I lived in Paris as a young teenager from 1960 to 1963 ... and was fortunate enough to meet John Wayne and Sal Mineo when they were in-country filming "the Longest Day". My father had the most wonderful job ... in U.S. Army Special Services. Among his various duties, he was involved in hosting VIP's that, for whatever reason, would be visiting the Paris area. Because of that, I was able to get on a rope line and shake the hand of JFK when he came to visit SHAPE.

When the film finally opened, I saw it in 70mm at the Élysées theater on the Champs-Élysées ... the venue where it had world-premiered only weeks before. It was interesting ... as I recall, there was no special language dubbing. Rather, french subtitles were provided when anyone was speaking their native language (other than french).

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This is by far one of my favorite movies. Right now the wife and I have this one DVD but we will be getting this on Blu-ray when it's released.
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I lived in Paris as a young teenager from 1960 to 1963 ... and was fortunate enough to meet John Wayne and Sal Mineo when they were in-country filming "the Longest Day". My father had the most wonderful job ... in U.S. Army Special Services. Among his various duties, he was involved in hosting VIP's that, for whatever reason, would be visiting the Paris area. Because of that, I was able to get on a rope line and shake the hand of JFK when he came to visit SHAPE.

When the film finally opened, I saw it in 70mm at the Élysées theater on the Champs-Élysées ... the venue where it had world-premiered only weeks before. It was interesting ... as I recall, there was no special language dubbing. Rather, french subtitles were provided when anyone was speaking their native language (other than french).

Can't wait to get this BD. The film was such an influencial part of my early teens.

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THis is an excellent looking disc and one fans of the film will love. It is razor sharp and detailed with excellent reproduction of grays across the spectrum. Amazing really and well worth a buy.
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JWhip, thanks for your input and I am glad that we are in agreement.


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The Longest Day was the first DVD I bought and it sounds like I will be triple-dipping on it. Thanks for the review Ralph.
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Are the subtitles burned in or electronic below the picture?
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Are the subtitles burned in or electronic below the picture?

Boy, that's a good question. There are a ton of them. CH users will certainly want to know. Ralph?

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Great review, Ralph! Can't wait for this one as well. I worked in a theatre where it played during the original release and saw parts of it as many as 40 times! I'm really looking forward to seeing the BR release.

Here's an interesting footnote about the "Soundtrack."
As we see, the original languages were spoken and titles used wherever appropriate for the country in which the film was being shown (French for hconwell's great experience and English in the US release, etc.)
Well, a complete English-language version was filmed!!! And, following the Road Show release (wonderful things!!) the film was distributed to "the provinces" in both multi-language and English-dubbed (where appropriate) versions. It is to the great credit of US audiences at the time (the early 1960s) that they, even in small venues, rejected the English-dubbed version in favor of the original.
Fox pulled the English-only version and it seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. I actually saw it once but can't remember whether it was released to television that way or not. Whichever, it didn't work!!

Thanks again, Ralph, for your insightful review. Good work!
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Greetings,

The subtitles are contained within the picture area so there should be no problems there.

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Great review, Ralph! Can't wait for this one as well. I worked in a theatre where it played during the original release and saw parts of it as many as 40 times! I'm really looking forward to seeing the BR release.

You have first hand knowledge of how this looked upon it's release. I look forward to hearing your impressions of the Blu-ray disc. Please post back...


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The subtitles are contained within the picture area so there should be no problems there.



You have first hand knowledge of how this looked upon it's release. I look forward to hearing your impressions of the Blu-ray disc. Please post back...


Cheers,

I'll be glad to do so-- as well as give my reactions to the "Patton" BD as well.

Just can't wait until Blu-Ray gets around to "Tora! Tora! Tora!"
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For some strange reason , the movie had a colourized version, not sure when it was produced or why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHEb--GMANo
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According to Robert Harris this transfer is DNRed to the point of looking waxy and no longer looking like film. You have been warned.
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According to Robert Harris this transfer is DNRed to the point of looking waxy and no longer looking like film. You have been warned.

That makes for a tough decision if true. On the one hand, I want to buy it in part to help convey a message to Fox that classic catalog titles like this are desired for Blu-ray release. On the other hand, I don't want to buy it in part to help convey the message that heavy DNR is not at all desired. I suppose Fox would never really understand and consider the latter message.
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There is a screenshot comparison of the non-anamorphic DVD, anamorphic DVD, and Blu-ray versions of The Longest Day at DVDBeaver:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...ay_blu-ray.htm

There seems to be a bigger improvement in the Blu-ray compared to the DVD than for any other BD/SD pair that I've seen.
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According to Robert Harris this transfer is DNRed to the point of looking waxy and no longer looking like film. You have been warned.

Thanks for sharing this.....but I'll form my own opinion.
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According to Robert Harris this transfer is DNRed to the point of looking waxy and no longer looking like film. You have been warned.

Should be fascinating to see how "waxy" looks in black-and-white!!
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Should be fascinating to see how "waxy" looks in black-and-white!!

What are you rolling your eyes for? Waxy does not mean there is color.
The Beaver shots (although all SD which is pointless for judging HD detail) look suspiciously waxy to me even in SD.
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Thanks for sharing this.....but I'll form my own opinion.

Which is always a good principle to follow. Just consider once you bought you sent your message to the studio (I buy this. Give me more like this.) whether you liked it afterwards or not. So in such cases renting or borrowing is a better solution than buying. You can still buy after you checked it out.
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According to Robert Harris this transfer is DNRed to the point of looking waxy and no longer looking like film. You have been warned.

Saw that but he also recommends it...
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There is a screenshot comparison of the non-anamorphic DVD, anamorphic DVD, and Blu-ray versions of The Longest Day at DVDBeaver:

There seems to be a bigger improvement in the Blu-ray compared to the DVD than for any other BD/SD pair that I've seen.

Thanks for posting this. The comparison shot of those officers, in my opinion, is stunning. This is a must have along with Patton for me.
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What are you rolling your eyes for? Waxy does not mean there is color.
The Beaver shots (although all SD which is pointless for judging HD detail) look suspiciously waxy to me even in SD.


Don't take things so seriously! Just chiding a report that should have waited until the "reporter" has seen the product with his/her own eyes!
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I never liked the director's decision to go b&w with this film. Didn't he realize there is a huge amount of color film shot of WWII including D-Day? The same criticism could be leveled at Clint Eastwood's desaturated look in his recent war flicks.
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I never liked the director's decision to go b&w with this film. Didn't he realize there is a huge amount of color film shot of WWII including D-Day? The same criticism could be leveled at Clint Eastwood's desaturated look in his recent war flicks.

I have to disagree with you here. I'm from the era when this film was released and, believe me, it worked brilliantly in b&w on the big screen. There is actually a small bit of "real" footage from WWII in "The Longest Day."
But the film is 99% stunningly-staged footage with real people and equipment-- very little use of models, etc.

The early 1960s were not far removed from b&w newsreels in theatres and the evening news (real news shows, not "Today Show" clones!) were, like most tv programming, in b&w. So the film had a "realistic" feeling in its theatrical time that many of today's viewers don't seem to understand.

I wouldn't presume to speak for Eastwood, but I believe I read that he chose the "desaturated" (good description, thanks) color look to tone down the graphic-enough violence in his two great films on Iwo Jima. I know it's hard for some to believe, but there really is NO necessity to show such overwhelmingly graphic bodily mutilation to make one's point. Certainly Spielberg and others (Ridley Scott springs to mind; Mel Gibson does not!) have used it to bring home the horrors of war to jolting and moving effect. Others have followed them with glorification by spatter and bile and ruined some otherwise interesting films. They are even now mutilating bodies on prime time US network TV.... and I had to turn off a local newscast during lunch the other day... or I would have lost same..

I DO know, though, that 20th-Century Fox head Darryl F. Zanuck, to whom "The Longest Day" project belonged totally, picked the widescreen format (Fox's specialty in those days), made the correct decision to go with black and white photography, insisted that original-language footage would be used (though a safety all-English version was filmed simultaneously, then rejected by worldwide audiences), "directed" the three directors...
and saw to it that one of the most fascinating and accurate films about one of the pivotal moments in world history would become the classic it is.

I surely wish my bundled-from-Amazon Blu-Ray of this film (that I saw in the theatre countless times; I worked there) would have arrived by now so I could watch it in honor of the participants in D-Day during the 48-hour world-wide period that is June 6th--- "The Longest Day."
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Amazing PQ, and I agree, B&W is the way to go, a color version wouldn t be the same. I m watching it right now, and I love the vintage special effects, like just b4 chapter 2 when Rommel discuss the beach defenses. If you watch it you ll know what I mean.
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I also saw this in a theater when it was released, and have seen it countless times since then. And I also agree B&W was the correct decision.
Mine arrived yesterday (along with the Dirty Harry set and The Sand Pebbles), and will be watching it later today in honor of D-Day and those who were there.
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sorry i disagree 2 movies i will never buy as long as they are in black&white the longest day and young frankenstein, and yes i love both of those movies,but i hate black&white movies to much to buy them. i would love to see the colorized version instead.
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sorry i disagree 2 movies i will never buy as long as they are in black&white the longest day and young frankenstein, and yes i love both of those movies,but i hate black&white movies to much to buy them. i would love to see the colorized version instead.

You are missing out on some real classics then.
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