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88






Studio and Year: Paramount - 2007
MPAA Rating: R
Feature running time: 158 Minutes
Genre: Drama

Disc Format: BD-50
Encoding: VC-1
Video Aspect: 2.35:1
Resolution: 1080p/24


Audio Format(s): English Dolby TrueHD 5.1, French/Spanish Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: English, English SDH, French, Spanish
Starring: Daniel Day-Lewis, Paul Dano, Kevin J. O’Connor, Ciaran Hinds, Dillon Freasier
Directed by: Paul Thomas Anderson
Music by: Jonny Greenwood
Written by: Paul Thomas Anderson
Region Code: Not indicated

Blu-ray Disc release Date: June 3, 2008







"If you ain’t careful you can lose it all"



Film Synopsis:

A sprawling epic of family, faith, power and oil, THERE WILL BE BLOOD is set on the incendiary frontier of California’s turn-of-the-century petroleum boom. The story chronicles the life and times of one Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis), who transforms himself from a down-and-out silver miner raising a son on his own into a self-made oil tycoon. When Plainview gets a mysterious tip-off that there’s a little town out West where an ocean of oil is oozing out of the ground, he heads with his son, H.W. (Dillon Freasier), to take their chances in dust-worn Little Boston. In this hardscrabble town, where the main excitement centers around the holy roller church of charismatic preacher Eli Sunday (Paul Dano), Plainview and H.W. make their lucky strike. But even as the well raises all of their fortunes, nothing will remain the same as conflicts escalate and every human value – love, hope, community, belief, ambition and even the bond between father and son – is imperiled by corruption, deception and the flow of oil.

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My Take:

There will be blood is a powerful film that portrays life during the early days of the California petroleum boom. It depicts the struggles of silver mining as well as the inherent dangers that came along with it. The early days of oil drilling were similarly dangerous and as evidenced in the film many fell victim to accidents. I read that this was a violent movie. After watching it I wouldn’t say that it contained heavy violence but I would describe it as graphic in it‘s depiction. At just over two and a half hours and I felt that it was too long. I found myself thinking at times that certain scenes could easily have been omitted. Don‘t mistake that for boredom though. This was not a boring film by any means. Day-Lewis won an Academy Award for his role and it wasn‘t hard to see why. I also appreciated the performances turned in my Dillon Freasier as H.W. and Paul Dano as Eli Sunday.

I believe that There will be blood is an interesting film from a historical perspective as it does a superb job in providing what I would a call a realistic depiction of what life must have been like during those days in American History. The strong performances by the cast lent support to the story’s telling which is always a positive.




Parental Guide:

The rating is for violence, and language.






AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100 / EXCELLENT = 83-91 / GOOD = 74-82 / AVERAGE = 65-73 / BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

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Audio: 86



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There will be blood comes to Blu-ray Disc from Paramount featuring 1080p VC-1 encoded video with an average bitrate of 29 mbps and lossless Dolby TrueHD 5.1audio that has an average bitrate of 3.3 mbps.

I reviewed the DVD release of TWBB earlier this year and looking back at my notes I was pleased to find that my overall impressions were similar. Of course there are some differences. Here are my comments from that review:


I really enjoyed this film from a technical perspective. The audio and video presentations were well balanced relative to one another and were a perfect fit for the subject matter. The audio was cleanly reproduced with a crisp dynamic signature that truly brought home the films driving elements with terse realism. This played hand and hand with the excellently delivered detail which created a very believable sonic presence as the sounds of trains, metal against rock, the swooshing of oil erupting in a geyser, and creaking/breaking timbers. This was also the case with dialogue although at times it lacked to crispness associated with the best sound mixes I have heard. The surround were used to great effect to deliver ambience and room filling spatial effects. The subwoofer channel was used only on occasion for deep sub bass but those occasions were memorable. The 2.35:1 video as not very vibrant in terms of color. This was done intentionally to depict the period clothing worn by the cast as well as to set the mood for the subject matter. Colors appeared quite natural with fine textures and good tonal delineation. Contrast levels were very good as was shadow detail. Blacks were dark but not inky and overall image detail was excellent throughout. I suspect that most will be very pleased with this audio/video presentation.

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The opening moments of this high definition presentation worried me. I wasn’t seeing the clarity and fine detail that I was expecting. The scene in the silver mine and as Daniel sits beside the fire in the dark looked rather flat. I breathed a sigh of relief once things switched to the following day when Daniel was preparing to use dynamite down in the mine. The image was bathed in bright sunlight which revealed lots of fine detail in the dry rocky landscape. Like the DVD contrast levels are excellent (perhaps a tad on the hot side) which gives the image a dynamic and punchy appearance. I Compared the same scene on both and there is no question that the Blu-ray disc delivers a more vibrant and stark image. The same was true of resolution. The Blu-ray disc delivered sharp and cleanly resolved video. I was able to see the fabric weave in the linen shirts and dresses worn by the cast. Texture in the wood that made up the period buildings and oil derricks as well as the within the various landscapes exhibited the “looking through a window” effect. The period clothing worn by the cast and locations used in the film don’t offer a broad color palette. The various shades of gray, brown, pale blue, and greens were reproduced quite well and looked great. I thought that skin tones looked superb. The various complexions and differing tonal qualities of the cast came across with defining realism. Another area where this presentation excelled over the DVD was in its reproduction of blacks. They looked good on the DVD but here they looked great. They were deep and inky with plenty of dynamic range. Scenes that contained light and dark elements looked stunning at times. Shadow detail was on par with the DVD in that it was very good at revealing varying levels of visible structure and objects in low light and dark backgrounds. Grain was present but never intrusive. The only exception could be in Chapter 4 (54:00) after the body of a worker is pulled from the oil well as they stand around the opening. The bluish night sky in the background looked excessively grainy. This lasted for only a few seconds and only if you were looking for it.

This film is not such that it would require an overly active surround mix. I do think that surround activity is important to supplement the onscreen elements to create a stable and believable atmosphere in the room during the film. This Dolby TrueHD audio mix does exactly that. It combines the right amount of discrete and ambient detail mixed at varying levels so that sounds are rarely localizable. I appreciated how the music score was handled within the mix. It uses the violin quite a bit along with various percussion pieces to deliver a deliberate and apropos addition to the film. A great example of how this was implemented is in Chapter 4 during the oil fire. Listen to rhythmic tone of the violin and accompaniment as it drives the tension within this scene. This track relies on the front three channels to deliver the bulk of its data. I felt that this was appropriate for the most part but that on occasion it could have been a bit more aggressive. Low frequency detail is present but not regularly. It definitely had better extension, and reached further into the room here than on the lossy Dolby Digital mix on the DVD. This could be felt during the oil geyser eruptions and first train sequence in the film. Dialogue reproduction was very good although not with the crystal clear sonics and texture of the better lossless audio tracks that I have heard.



Bonus Features:

The Bonus features are slightly above average and offer two trailers, 2 deleted scenes and a segment entitled ‘15 Minutes’ that looks at the film through a series of cut ins that mix in real life photographs of miners, oil men etc. from the period and similar scenes from the film that depict them. Lastly there is a B/W silent film entitled “The Story of Petroleum” that chronicles the 1920’s oil business. All of the supplements here are presented in high definition. Paramount used a very basic menu layout with this release. While I am not a fan of menus that are difficult to navigate or too layered I would like to see a bit more interactivity.

* For those who may not notice it Paramount has included a interchangeable cover sleeve with TWBB. One side has Daniel standing in front of the oil derrick and the other features a head shot (taken from one of the DVD release covers). I thought this was a nice perk and worth mentioning.*



  • (HD)15 Minutes - Pics ,research, etc. from the film

  • (HD)Trailers - Teaser and Theatrical

  • (HD)3 Deleted Scenes

  • (HD)The Story of Petroleum
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Final Thoughts:



I appreciated There will be blood. I didn‘t think that it was a terrific film but I thought that it told it‘s story extremely well through great acting and the use of excellent visuals. I suspect that viewers will find it to be entertaining in that regard as well. Paramount has done a terrific job with this release from a technical perspective as it looks and sounds great. My feeling is that this one is worth the cost of an upgrade from the standard DVD. Recommended.






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I had extremely high expectations for this movie... and maybe that's why I walked away slightly unimpressed. Daniel Day Lewis was excellent, but in the end, I found the movie to be slightly too long, slightly un-focused, and - for it's length - slightly detached. I walked away not feeling like I got to know any of the characters besides Daniel's.

I would watch it again... but wouldn't recommend it to most of my friends. That's because they all have very short attention spans though.
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Ralph - just a typo I wanted to point out. In your take on the film you said "At just over two hours I felt that it was too long." Since the running time is 158 mins, I believe you mean "At just over two 1/2 hours."

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I found this movie to be fantastic, flawless really. Until this, I mostly saw Paul Thomas Anderson as a great copycat of Robert Altman. But, with TWBB, he proves he's a first-rate writer/director in his own right.

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Ralph - just a typo I wanted to point out. In your take on the film you said "At just over two hours I felt that it was too long." Since the running time is 158 mins, I believe you mean "At just over two 1/2 hours."


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You are right. Thanks for pointing that out...


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That review is almost exactly what I thought. I thought I accidently put the dvd in when I saw the opening. But that one night time scene almost looks like it has noise, the dvd looks like a freaking beehive though.

This is a good disc for showing the difference between legacy audio and lossless. The bass on the dvd was boomy, now it's just a low pulse.
And the audio would distort when there was lots of screaming at higher volume levels. No problems here.

I like how you can now hear each instrument in the score, very cool. The difference in picture depth is pretty radical too.

The opening look bad in theaters too. That same noise/grain nightime scene was also present. It's 100 percent faithful, but looks much much better.

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Nice and balanced review Ralph.

How did the opening scene look in the theaters ?

IMO you should feel free to make adjustments to the ratings if you think you have rated them incorrectly or if you have changed your mind.

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I went to a pretty decent theater, and the opening scene looked so poor that I actually walked out thinking the theater was junk.

I ended up going back the next day and watched it anyway, because I just wanted to see the movie. And things improved. But that opening scene looked awful in the theater. Black levels were very poor amongst other things.
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Thanks facesnorth for the clarification of my query.

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thankyou Ralph.
I have to say i actually have subscribed to this thread as i enjoy your reviews.You do an excellent job.

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thankyou Ralph.
I have to say i actually have subscribed to this thread as i enjoy your reviews.You do an excellent job.

Thanks Franin.

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IMO you should feel free to make adjustments to the ratings if you think you have rated them incorrectly or if you have changed your mind.

lgans316, I find that my initial impressions are usually what I go with. I am not always right (and would never claim to be) and if I felt that I needed to make an adjustment I would.

I value your insights and appreciate your input...

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Ralph,

Another great review. Day Lewis was impressive. The film was too long.

I just noticed the Middletown reference in your profile. I grew up in Washingtonville, Washie class of '71. My wife's parents live very close to the 17M / I-84 interchange. We will be up there at the end of the month.

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Greetings,

Thanks Joe. Its nice to hear from a "local". I am not far from your in-laws...


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Great review.

I am complete now that I have this disc in my possession. The wait was torture, but highly worth it. I was not let down. The film - Astounding, in my opinion. Watched it for the third time on blu and enjoyed it the most.
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Ralph, I now have more faith in your reviews than High Def Digest reviews. You go much more in deph, and it does not seem like you are bias toward any one film or genre.

I appreciate the honest reviews, and look forward to reading more from you!
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this movie was an incredible letdown...I had high hopes for this movie but it turned out to be a 2 and half hour borefest....Danil Day Lewis was great in it but the story was lacking

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This movie is amongst my highest blind buy warnings regardless of one's attention span. It flat out would not interest a large majority of folks.
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I just watched this... I felt I was watching a documentary of an insane drunk that vows to destroy any decent person that crosses his path. It reminded me of Natural Born Killers... This film failed to entertain but I enjoyed Daniel Day Lewis's terrific performance.

Nice review but I felt the surround activity was a bit lighter than your reference. It felt like the LCRs were the only speakers in use.

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I just watched this... I felt I was watching a documentary of an insane drunk that vows to destroy any decent person that crosses his path. It reminded me of Natural Born Killers... This film failed to entertain but I enjoyed Daniel Day Lewis's terrific performance.

Nice review but I felt the surround activity was a bit lighter than your reference. It felt like the LCRs were the only speakers in use.

Greetings,

Thanks for posting your impressions Jeff.

I made a point of stating in the article that the bulk of the audio is carried across the front three channels and that this is not the type of film that requires an overly active surround mix. I pointed out that it made very good an appropriate use of the surrounds when they were applied within the soundtrack.

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Ralph,

You are doing a nice job.. and I appreciated your brief mention of the very noisy snippet from the night scene. I noticed that during the film as something that came out of no where (in terms of quality). I appreciate the detail in your reviews..

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You are doing a nice job.. and I appreciated your brief mention of the very noisy snippet from the night scene. I noticed that during the film as something that came out of no where (in terms of quality). I appreciate the detail in your reviews..

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Great review.

I am complete now that I have this disc in my possession. The wait was torture, but highly worth it. I was not let down. The film - Astounding, in my opinion. Watched it for the third time on blu and enjoyed it the most.

I agree I enjoyed the film very much.it was astounding and very intersting.Daniel day Lewis is a damn good actor.

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It is a Lewis performance of very high caliber, indeed.
I personally enjoy this movie big time.

And I found the blu-ray quality very well transfered.
I was not so impressed by the young preacher performance, it was a little over the top, in my opinion. But Daniel Lewis is pure magic to watch, and just for that performance,
this movie deserves two thumbs up in my book.

Thanks Ralph for a well done review.
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I love this film. I saw a part of it on TV for the first time the other day and had to get the Blu. Was terribly disappointed with the picture quality! After reading some other reviews I thought the PQ will be brilliant and had very high hopes. Reading this review (and some comments) puts my heart at ease. I guess it was just shot that way. Still, looking forward to a new transfer if or when that ever comes.
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In the end, the movie clearly followed through on its title's promise.
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