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88






Studio and Year: Lionsgate - 2008
MPAA Rating: R
Feature running time: 110 Minutes
Genre: Crime Drama

Disc Format: BD-25
Encoding: MPEG-4 (AVC)
Video Aspect: 2.35:1
Resolution: 1080p/24


Audio Format(s): English DTS-HD 7.1 Master Audio Lossless, French Dolby Digital EX 5.1 Surround
Subtitles: English, English SDH, Spanish
Starring: Jason Statham, Saffron Burrows
Directed by: Roger Donaldson
Music by: J. Peter Robinson
Written by: Dick Clement & Ian Frenais
Region Code: A

Blu-ray Disc release Date: July 15, 2008







"Based on a true story "



Film Synopsis:

Terry Leather (Jason Statham) and his dodgy friends aren't London's great criminals. But when they're approached by the beautiful Martine Love (Saffron Burrows) and asked to plunder a local bank's priceless safe deposit vault, the small-time hoods see the job as the chance of a lifetime. But what they don't know about the true purpose of the robbery may kill them as they quickly find themselves embroiled in a scheme involving a Black Power leader, the MI-5, corrupt detectives, a local porn king and even the Royal Family in this pulse-pounding crime drama, based on the greatest heist in British history.



My Take:

I have to admit that I like Jason Statham as an onscreen persona. His films have not always been the best but you can't discount his cool collective nature and tough guy image. Going into this I had not heard of The Bank Job and knew nothing of its background. The film is based on a true story about a group of small time local hoods who pulls off the robbery of a Bank (Bank of Lloyds) on Baker Street in London in the early 1970's. The job is brought to them by Martine Love a beautiful model who has past connections to several of them. Unbeknownst to them is the fact that Martine has an agenda of her own which involves the contents of safe deposit box # 118. The contents of that box as well as several others that are stolen leads to a large scale search from three different sources in an attempt to regain those contents from the bank robbers. The outcome has serious ramifications for all concerned which is the crux of the story.

I was surprised at how much I liked this film. It had a fairly large cache of characters and the screenplay did an excellent job in establishing them and making them sympathetic and/or believable. Statham did a wonderful in his portrayal of Terry. Terry was far from perfect but his short comings made him who he was which helped the audience understand his motivation. It was refreshing to see Statham without martial arts defining his character but rather his emotions. The story has several layers, some of which were complex that had to be peeled away. Director Roger Donaldson does in fact peel them away but does so with excellent timing and thorough diligence which allows the audience to slowly absorb the stories substance. The ensemble cast was well placed and were all equally responsible for the movies outcome. At 110 minutes I thought the film's pacing was excellent. The fact that the film is based on actual events made it all the more appealing for me.








Parental Guide:

The rating is for sexual content, nudity, language and violence. This is not one for younger viewers.






AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100 / EXCELLENT = 83-91 / GOOD = 74-82 / AVERAGE = 65-73 / BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**


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Audio: 92



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Video: 84


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The Bank Job comes to Blu-ray Disc from Lionsgate featuring 1080p AVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 18 mbps and lossless DTS-HD 7.1 channel audio with an average bitrate of 2.6 mbps.

The video presentation was a bit different that I was expecting. Its stylized look did not lend itself to bold use of color which often made it appear less vibrant and eye catching. It didn't use bright colors but rather stuck to more browns, tans, blacks, navy blues and darker reds. Occasional use of light blue, fire engine red and yellows did reveal plenty of deep saturation and vivid highlights. The look of the video appeared to be directly related to an attempt to re-capture early 1970's London. I think that it succeeded in establishing a more reserved and laid back color palette but fleshtones suffered in the translation. Everyone had a flat, colorless, pancake type complexion that lacked tonal variation. It was quite noticeable throughout the course of the film. Resolution was not adversely affected as images had excellent dimensional depth with plenty of visible detail and sharpness. Contrast levels looked great as I was able to see ample detail within whites, and visible gradation in grays. Check out the varying steps of gray visible in the clouds in the background sky as Eddie stands on the rooftop acting as the lookout. Blacks and shadow detail were rendered with aplomb. This is a lower bitrate encoding when compared to most of the Blu-ray Discs I reviewed lately however I saw no evidence of bit starvation or other video related artifacts.

I have to say that I love lossless audio and the DTS-HD Master Audio tracks that I have heard as a whole offer some of the best. The sound mix on this disc sounded superb and is of reference quality. This is not an aggressive sound track but this mix takes all of its inherent elements and delivers them with startling realism. I was impressed with the weight and descriptive representation of the dialogue through the center channel. The entire surround platform was used to create the divergent atmospheres portrayed in the film. The aural environment within the room seemed to come alive at times as it contained a flurry of discrete surround activity that emanated from both the surround and rear surround channels. The front and rear soundstages combined well to create a seamless and enveloping sound field. Bass frequencies contained in the mix didn't reach into the deep sub regions but had extension that was appropriately proportionate to the source material and supported the soundtrack quite well.



Bonus Features:



The bonus content offers a behind the scenes look at the making of The Bank Job as well as a 14 minute feature on the real bank robbery. There is plenty of behind the scene video and interviews with the production staff, cast and director. The audio commentary track is fairly insightful as the three discuss their recollection of the 1971 heist and how the film was adapted. My favorite was the piece on the Robbery itself as it was quite informative and interesting. Lionsgate has included a SD Digital Copy of the film which can be downloaded to a portable playback device from a PC or MAC. This disc featured a disc resume function (after pressing stop only once) and a bookmark option. My personal opinion is that this should be standard on every Blu-ray Disc as it makes life much simpler.




  • Audio Commentary with Director Roger Donaldson, Actress Saffron Burrows, and Composer J. Peter Robinson

  • Inside the Bank Job: Featurette

  • The Baker Street Bank Raid: Featurette

  • Deleted and Extended scenes with optional commentary

  • Theatrical Trailer

  • Lionsgate BD Previews

  • Digital Copy of the film





Final Thoughts:



The Bank Job is an entertaining and clever film that is worthy of each minute of its 110 minute run time. Lionsgate has delivered it to Blu-ray Disc day and date with DVD in a neat package that features reference quality high resolution audio and a decent set of bonus supplements. I recommend that you give it a spin.







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I agree with your review Ralph... I watched like a third or it on Sunday and its pretty good.. I liked the sound mix a lot...

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I agree with the review. I thought the video presentation was a tad disappointing -- especially in the beginning and early middle of the film. It seemed like the film had a strong push of yellow and also some softness to it, but overall I was fairly satisfied.
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This is a lower bitrate encoding when compared to most of the Blu-ray Discs I reviewed lately however I saw no evidence of bit starvation or other video related artifacts.

Unfortunately I did. When Jason Statham first enters the vault, amidst the smoke, there was some slight posterization around his work light.

Your video score IMO is the most correct that I've seen yet. Some reviews give the PQ a near perfect score. There were a few scenes with very little fine object detail in the clothing such as some of the men's ties.

IMO the PQ was too inconsistent to give it a near perfect score. I think a PQ score of 84 is much more representative of what I saw.

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Unfortunately I did. When Jason Statham first enters the vault, amidst the smoke, there was some slight posterization around his work light.

Chris, I will take another look at that scene. Thanks for reporting it...

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You're welcome buddy. The posterization is very brief (2 seconds at the most perhaps).

Even if you don't have time to go back to that scene I think 84 is still a very fair and accurate score.

Once again thanks for the review.

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Enjoyed this one alot. I loved the DTS-MA track.

Another solid review Ralph!

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I literally just finished watching this movie! I liked the movie a lot and agree with your review of the audio - a great presentation.

My one complaint with the movie (perhaps it's more about my BR player - Sony BDPS-500). Is that the menu system is BD-Java based and so the disc takes an extra long time to load (first for the sony to load its JVM and then for the disc to load its content). My other bigger gripe would be that the disc prevents you from skipping to the menu and you must endure trailers that you skip over - 9 of them. It really bothers me when I buy and own a movie that I cannot by-pass the trailers and go straight to the movie menu.
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Excellent review Ralph. The jargons you have been using to describe the video presentation and the write-ups reminds me of preparing for interviews.

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Watched it last night. Loved the film but didn't like the stylized look. My BenQ W10000 always renders fleshtones realistically on well transferred discs, Blu-ray or otherwise, but on The Bank Job, the fleshtones appeared much too ruddy and just didn't look correct to me.

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I literally just finished watching this movie! I liked the movie a lot and agree with your review of the audio - a great presentation.

My one complaint with the movie (perhaps it's more about my BR player - Sony BDPS-500). Is that the menu system is BD-Java based and so the disc takes an extra long time to load (first for the sony to load its JVM and then for the disc to load its content). My other bigger gripe would be that the disc prevents you from skipping to the menu and you must endure trailers that you skip over - 9 of them. It really bothers me when I buy and own a movie that I cannot by-pass the trailers and go straight to the movie menu.

Amen to that. I really wish they would allow us to bypass previews alltogether. Ratatouille is the same way and it takes FOREVER!

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Excellent Picture
Excellent Sound - Fantastic DTS HD 7.1..........the cars, trains, gun fire - bullets....it was all "Real"

Excellent overall movie, we both like it.

(Previews - we were able to use the skip - had to skip one preview at a time)
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The movie was slow paced. Worth renting but not owning.

Spoiler ahead.

The problem I have with the movie is: The bank robbers decide to "take a nap" after they break into the vault.

I'm no bank robber but the last thing I would do is take a nap after breaking into a vault.
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The movie was slow paced. Worth renting but not owning.

Spoiler ahead.

The problem I have with the movie is: The bank robbers decide to "take a nap" after they break into the vault.

I'm no bank robber but the last thing I would do is take a nap after breaking into a vault.

Greetings,

I can certainly appreciate your thoughts regarding the nap and if I were a bank robber I can't see that as an option either.

The thing you should keep in mind is that this film is based on actual events and this is what they in fact did. I would hold the movie reponsible for it.

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Nice review Ralph. Finally watched this movie last night and loved it!!
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Nice review Ralph. Finally watched this movie last night and loved it!!

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BTW how's it looking on the Universal front? I hope that you're able to start reviewing their releases soon.

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I began reading your reviews Ralph after reading your comprehensive review on Transformers on blu-ray. Your review went into great depth in comparing the sound quality difference between the HD DVD version and blu-ray version and I was impressed. Each of your reviews go into great detail around the PQ and AQ of each blu-ray movie you review and I really appreciate that.

I'm hoping you start to review Universal blu-rays as I'd love to read your take on the comparison of Miami Vice on HD DVD vs Blu-ray.
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I began reading your reviews Ralph after reading your comprehensive review on Transformers on blu-ray. Your review went into great depth in comparing the sound quality difference between the HD DVD version and blu-ray version and I was impressed. Each of your reviews go into great detail around the PQ and AQ of each blu-ray movie you review and I really appreciate that.

I'm hoping you start to review Universal blu-rays as I'd love to read your take on the comparison of Miami Vice on HD DVD vs Blu-ray.

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Thanks for your feedback. No word on Universal as of yet, sorry. I will see what the future holds though..

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I loved The Bank Job but was somewhat surprised that I did. My daughter had found it a little slow, as has a poster or two to this thread as I recall. I largely agree with my daughter's assessments of movies but not this time.

Jason Statham wears well and I also like Saffron Burrows, whose performances on Boston Legal have been delightful. She is not only beautiful, she is a fine actress. The other members of the cast were unknown to me but did a creditable job, too, I thought. This was a well told tale, well worth its 112 minutes runtime.

As did Ralph, I found the stylized film style somewhat off-putting because it gave the film a flat, somewhat uninteresting look and raised havoc with skin tones. The wonderful DTS 7.1 soundtrack was terrific, though. I could not have asked for more.

Highly recommended.
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I loved The Bank Job but was somewhat surprised that I did. My daughter had found it a little slow, as has a poster or two to this thread as I recall. I largely agree with my daughter's assessments of movies but not this time.

Jason Statham wears well and I also like Saffron Burrows, whose performances on Boston Legal have been delightful. She is not only beautiful, she is a fine actress. The other members of the cast were unknown to me but did a creditable job, too, I thought. This was a well told tale, well worth its 112 minutes runtime.

As did Ralph, I found the stylized film style somewhat off-putting because it gave the film a flat, somewhat uninteresting look and raised havoc with skin tones. The wonderful DTS 7.1 soundtrack was terrific, though. I could not have asked for more.

Highly recommended.

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My wife and kids and I couldn't get past the sex scenes and nudity in the first few minutes of the film.
A little too graphic for mixed family viewing
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My wife and kids and I couldn't get past the sex scenes and nudity in the first few minutes of the film.
A little too graphic for mixed family viewing

Greetings,

That is why I include a parental guide in my reviews Ed. Here is the one for this film:

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The rating is for sexual content, nudity, language and violence. This is not one for younger viewers.


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My wife and kids and I couldn't get past the sex scenes and nudity in the first few minutes of the film.
A little too graphic for mixed family viewing

How old are your kids? Did you not see that it was rated "R?"
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How old are your kids? Did you not see that it was rated "R?"

kids are 15 and 16.

We watch R rated shows all of the time, they RARELY offend us. All of the R rated movies have those disclaimers.

I am just saying that this one was way over the top from the beginning. The first scene was pure gratuitous voyeurism. When the third scene opens up with an upward shot of a fully nude pole dancer it was time to turn it off.


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It would be really weird to watch even pg13 movies with my parents... Watching Titanic pg13 with really awkward.
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Greetings,

This is something that is strictly up to every parents discretion and it should definitely be respected.


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post #28 of 29 Old 09-13-2008, 07:33 AM
 
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kids are 15 and 16.

We watch R rated shows all of the time, they RARELY offend us. All of the R rated movies have those disclaimers.

I am just saying that this one was way over the top from the beginning. The first scene was pure gratuitous voyeurism. When the third scene opens up with an upward shot of a fully nude pole dancer it was time to turn it off.


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Wow. So graphic violence and language don't bother you, but seeing a couple of boobs or a bare butt does? I'll never understand that mentality, but it seems to be indicative of our culture here in the U.S. For some reason, it seems parents would rather have their children watch violence than sex or nudity. Apparently it's better to watch a human being be murdered than it is to see a naked person dancing suggestively. Again, I'll never understand that mentality.

BTW, a quick google search came up with this: The Bank Job (2008) MPAA Rating: R for sexual content, nudity, violence and language. It specifically lists "sexual content" and "nudity." If it bothers you so much, why didn't you check first?

FWIW, I recently watched the Bank Job and thought it was a decent flick. I found the opening scenes to be relatively tame - certainly no worse than the average "hard R" movie. YMMV.
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I rented this when it first came out in BD format, and really enjoyed it. I have just now added it to my collection, as I am in the midst of beefing up my BD library.
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