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89






Studio and Year: Sony Pictures - 2006
MPAA Rating: PG-13
Feature running time: 144 Minutes
Genre: Action/Drama

Disc Format: BD-50
Encoding: AVC (MPEG-4)
Video Aspect: 2.40:1
Resolution: 1080p/24


Audio Format(s): English/French Dolby TrueHD 5.1
Subtitles: English, English SDH, French, Spanish
Starring: Daniel Craig, Eva Green, Mads Mikkelsen, Jeffrey Wright, Judi Dench
Directed by: Martin Campbell
Music by: David Arnold
Written by: Neal Purvis, Robert Wade, Paul Haggis
Region Code: A,B,C

Blu-ray Disc release Date: October 21, 2008







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Film Synopsis:

CASINO ROYALE introduces JAMES BOND before he holds his license to kill. Bond is no less dangerous, and with two professional assassinations in quick succession, he is elevated to "00" status. "M" (Judi Dench), head of the British Secret Service, sends the newly-promoted 007 on his first mission that takes him to Madagascar, the Bahamas and eventually leads him to Montenegro to face Le Chiffre, a ruthless financier under threat from his terrorist clientele, who is attempting to restore his funds in a high-stakes poker game at the Casino Royale. "M" places Bond under the watchful eye of the Treasury official Vesper Lynd. At first skeptical of what value Vesper can provide, Bond's interest in her deepens as they brave danger together. Le Chiffre's cunning and cruelty come to bear on them both in a way Bond could never imagine, and he learns his most important lesson: Trust no one.



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The James Bond franchise is the longest running film series to my knowledge. I am amazed at how each installment never seems to lose its fresh appeal. Casino Royale is special for two reasons. The first is that it is technically the first James Bond story and second because it introduces us to the newest and sixth actor to play Bond, Daniel Craig. I have to admit that when I heard that he was the new Bond I was pretty skeptical. I had seen him in several films, including Layer Cake and Tomb Raider, and wasn’t sure he had the chops to pull Bond off. After seeing Casino Royale my skepticism was assuaged. The character has a much different feel that is highlighted by more of a reckless arrogance and darker persona than we have seen from any previous Bond. Personally I find it invigorating. Director Martin Campbell returns (he directed Pierce Brosnan’s Bond debut in Goldeneye) with action that is quick paced, in your face, and physically more challenging than any other Bond film to date. The film’s opening (after the black and white segment) represents the most intricately staged foot chase sequence I have ever seen. Each time I see it I am amazed at the incredible dexterity displayed by Sebastien Foucan, as Mollaka the bomb maker, the man Bond is pursuing on foot. The story is well paced, and features a satisfyingly sophisticated plot that seems apropos to the “new” Bond. Like many of the Bond films I find replay value on Casino Royale to be high and enjoy re-visiting it from time to time.




Parental Guide:

The rating is for intense sequences of violent action, a scene of torture, sexual content and nudity.






AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100 / EXCELLENT = 83-91 / GOOD = 74-82 / AVERAGE = 65-73 / BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

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Audio: 90



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Video: 88


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Casino Royale Collector’s Edition comes to Blu-ray Disc from Sony Pictures featuring 1080p AVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 25 mbps and lossless Dolby TrueHD 5.1 channel audio that has an average bitrate of 2.3 mbps.

This is the same video encoding that was included in last year’s Blu-ray release. Images are sternly detailed with deep rock solid blacks and dynamic contrast that enhances the story’s elements. Colors are exaggerated in appearance but not to the point of distraction. Flesh tones are nicely delineated with fairer complexions and less so with darker ones but overall reproduction is realistic in depiction. Resolution is excellent as images have a visually satisfying and definitive three dimensional quality regardless of perspective. Sharpness is rarely called into question and any subtle variations appear innate to the photography rather related to the encoding. I saw no signs of video related anomalies or artifacting.

Casino Royale received a lossless Dolby TrueHD audio encoding for this Collectors’ Edition release versus the uncompressed PCM audio included on the original. Comparing the two I noticed the TrueHD soundtrack seemed as though it had been mixed a bit hotter. The same sequences watched via the PCM track were noticeably lower at the same volume setting. Matching the levels I didn’t find an appreciable difference in dynamics, clarity or low frequency detail. The same attributes existed in both. This came in the form of high level detail, defining clarity, and rich, room filling surround sound that didn’t disappoint. This is sophisticated sound design that incorporates a vast number of sound effects that are intricately mixed to engage the listening position. Bass is substantive and can sometimes be vigorous in depth but never rises inappropriately in prominence within the soundfield. The delicate blend of music, discrete/ambient sounds, dialogue and bass is supremely enriching as it weaves an aurally stimulating pattern across the entire surround platform.



Bonus Features:

This collector’s edition release sports a host of new bonus supplements dedicated to Bond and Casino Royale. There are several Blu-ray Disc exclusives including a multiplayer/multilevel Bond trivia quiz and Bonusview PiP commentary. There are 5 featurettes that explore the Casino Royale story and background as well as the locations where it was filmed. Included are cast and crew interviews as well as production footage. The original making of and stunt features from the original release are present and accounted for as is the 2006 Bond girls documentary. Those with BD-Live access can view four short features on the upcoming Quantum of solace Bond film as well as download other blu-ray disc content. 4 Deleted scenes and 3 BD previews round out a rather comprehensive feature package. All of which are offered in high definition unless otherwise indicated.

Disc 1:


  • Bonus view PiP commentary with Director Martin Campbell and Producer Michael G. Wilson

  • Crew commentary

  • Know your Double O – The ultimate James Bond Quiz

  • BD Previews – 21, Hancock, Vantage Point

Disc 2:


  • 4 Deleted scenes

  • The road to Casino Royale - Featurette

  • Ian Fleming’s incredible creation - Featurette

  • James Bond in the Bahamas - Featurette

  • Ian Fleming: The secret road to paradise - Featurette

  • Death in Venice - Featurette

  • (SD) Bond girls are forever – 2006 Documentary

  • The art of the Freerun - Documentary

  • Catching a plane: From storyboard to screen

  • Storyboard sequence: Freerun chase

  • Filmmakers profiles

  • (SD) Chris Cornell music video

BD-Live:


  • Start of shooting for Quantum of Solace

  • Locations

  • Meet the new Bond Girl – Olga Kurylenko

  • Hear from Quantum of Solace Director Mark Forster on the challenges of taking on a bond film
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Final Thoughts:

This new release of Casino Royale features excellent audio/video quality that is easily demonstration material worthy. Technically it brings nothing appreciably new to the table over the 2007 Blu-ray Disc release. What it does offer is a plethora of bonus supplements and Blu-ray Disc exclusive content that should keep fans happy for hours. If you own the previous release whether or not to double dip will be dependent on how important bonus features are to you. If you don’t already own this excellent 007 flick then there is no better way to experience it than this. Highly recommended.







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Hmm.. It would of been great if they show the extended edition instead of just adding features...

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I was waiting to see if this was going to be the same as the Australian version...Since it isn't i have just ordered the Australian version online...It's very minor differences but i still would prefer that version since the transfer sounds to be about the same as does the sound quality. Extra's i can live without.
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Eva Green in HD must a be a sight to behold!

I already have the 2 disc DVD version, but once a BD player its the AV rack (hoping for the rumored $150 players @ XMAS time), Casino Royale is on my list of must have Bluray titles.

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I thought both PCM and Dolby True were supposed to be on this disc? Is it just one? Looks like I'll have to keep my original.
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I have the 2007 Blu-ray version. I may double-dip just for the (HD) bonus features. This is one of my favorite movies.

Hey, I'm getting a bigger screen for the HT (as well as a 2.0 player.) Maybe I need some "new" demo material.

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What about the sub title option ? Are they on active frame for scope set up ? Original dvd had it on the black bar area.
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What about the sub title option ? Are they on active frame for scope set up ? Original dvd had it on the black bar area.


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I watch this movie over and over on planes on my PSP.
I'll be getting this version of Blu-Ray even though I have the other.
Also, can't wait for Quantum of Solace.

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Definatly gotta get this since I don't have the other version on BD.

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I was checking the australians website and noticed that they will also have a similar version like this... I wonder if it will be the extended (uncut) version plus the new features... If is like that I will definetely get it....

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I thought both PCM and Dolby True were supposed to be on this disc? Is it just one? Looks like I'll have to keep my original.

Dolby True HD is lossless, anyone who can tell the difference between Dolby True HD and PCM is really not enjoying the movie as they are virtually identical.

Personally I just never care for extra features, so hopefully when I pick up my BD player this xmas I will just get the regular version.
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...hopefully when I pick up my BD player this xmas I will just get the regular version.

If you can find it!

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Once I get my PS3 Christmas time Casino Royal Blu-ray and other James Bond movies will be on my list to buy.
First I need to buy Dark Knight
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If you can find it!

Oh, is this really not a collectors addition in the sense that you have to pay more for it over the base model, as it fully replaces the regular disc. As long as we are talking the same price, I really don't care, I just don't want to pay extra for some bonus features I will never watch, but if they are free I guess I will take them.
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I'm picking up the standard dvd for the extras...it's just not enough to justify a double dip of the blu ray !

Looking at it the other day, it IS an entertaining film...can't wait for the new theatrical feature !
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Finally purchased this last night. I'm glad that I upgraded to this version.

Being the Bond fan I am, I am really enjoying the Special Feature documentaries i'm finding on the disc, particularily the story of how CASINO ROYALE came to the screen. If you are a trivia junkie, this set is for you.

Techinically speaking, the picture is on par (though I did notice less grain) with the original release. I did find an improvement in the audio. I heard details i'd not heard before. Perhaps it's because of the bit depth of the TRUEHD being 24bit as opposed to the PCM 16bit.
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Yesterday I got the australian version of the collector's edition and I agree with this review.. It is really good... The difference between the US and the australian version is that the latter is an uncut version of the film.. The most notable scene is the fight between Bond and the african military leader....
The booklet inside the package is quite nice too....

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Yesterday I got the australian version of the collector's edition and I agree with this review.. It is really good... The difference between the US and the australian version is that the latter is an uncut version of the film.. The most notable scene is the fight between Bond and the african military leader....
The booklet inside the package is quite nice too....

Does the Australian version have anything else that yells "Australian" about it? Like, I don't want to get one that has decked out menus that say, "Play the movie, Mate" or "Go down under with special features." Are the cases different? Does the front cover say "Australian Special Edition?" These are small things for me where I would prefer going with the American version over the Australian version.
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Does the Australian version have anything else that yells "Australian" about it? Like, I don't want to get one that has decked out menus that say, "Play the movie, Mate" or "Go down under with special features." Are the cases different? Does the front cover say "Australian Special Edition?" These are small things for me where I would prefer going with the American version over the Australian version.

I don't see anything of that sort...

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Yesterday I got the australian version of the collector's edition and I agree with this review.. It is really good... The difference between the US and the australian version is that the latter is an uncut version of the film.. The most notable scene is the fight between Bond and the african military leader....
The booklet inside the package is quite nice too....

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Hi all... Not sure if I should post this here, or in the player section, so did both - mods obviously delete either post if this not permitted.

Obviously this could be a (player and/or disc) region-specific problem, but thought it worth checking on here as well as local forums...

I picked up the Australian 2-Disc Casino Royale yesterday, for my Samsung BD-P1500 (Australian), and it has some pretty major problems, but I believe them to be an issue with that item and the player, ie not a problem with my INDIVIDUAL disc or player.

First there's the thoroughly annoying 'Bonusview' icon popping up in the top corner. I turn it off (using the little 'Info' then 'Disc Menu' trick), but it comes back! Turn it off, it's back again shortly after :-P I've turned off Disc Messages in the main player menu, which suffices (though I obviously turn them back on after watching, otherwise there are NO onscreen icons, e.g. Play, FF, etc).

The WORST problem though, is that once the movie starts, if I Pause or FF at all, my speakers suddenly show 'No Digital input', and once I hit play again, the movies moves a few frames then hangs. I change audio track, no good - it starts moving again (still soundless) then jams again... can turn the speakers on and off (though they're pretty clearly not the problem), no good, even totally Stop or Eject the disc and put it back in, no good - I actually have to turn the player off and back to fix it.

The movie plays fine if I leave it totally alone, and I can't honestly say if my speakers always 'lose' signal if I FF or Pause (never noticed, and didn't have time to test other discs yesterday), but regardless whether they do or not, this disc still has the problem of hanging if I pause or fast forward. I can sorta break out of the hang, so the PLAYER's not frozen, by bringing up the popup menu, can go back to main menu etc, but even THAT goes a few frames then hangs, and the speakers never receive any signal again (til the player's power cycled as above).

I tried changing from Audiophile to Bitstream, which actually continues to show 'DTS' on the LCD during the Pause/FF (so it doesn't decide there's no signal at all), but the hang still happens. Tried removing ethernet cable and USB drive (both connected in readiness for firmware update), no difference.

So yeah, seems to ME like an issue with 'Casino Royale' (the 2-disc one at least) and this unit, as opposed to an issue with my individual disc or player.

Anyone else got this item and had these problems?
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Well, I just bought this, but can't find the free QoS movie ticket it's supposed to come with. Anyone know where that is?
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Well, I just bought this, but can't find the free QoS movie ticket it's supposed to come with. Anyone know where that is?

There should be a sticker on the case that has the redemption code on the back of it. You have to go to a website to get your ticket.

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No sticker, not even on the plastic wrapping it came in. I've searched every millimeter of the damn case, and I can't find a thing.

Maybe I was just jipped.
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Sorry for bumping this thread, but I'm looking to pick up the Australian uncut version of Casino Royale (Deluxe Edition), but I can't find it anywhere (except EzyDVD, which has it listed as out-of-stock for months).
Can anyone that picked up this edition suggest me an online store that ships to Europe, and carries this title?
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Funktion JCB - you can get this for NZ$49 (that's about 20 Euros, excluding shipping) through the following New Zealand website:

www.mightyape.co.nz

I can confirm that they do ship internationally.
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Funktion JCB - you can get this for NZ$49 (that's about 20 Euros, excluding shipping) through the following New Zealand website:

www.mightyape.co.nz

I can confirm that they do ship internationally.

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New Zealand and Australia share the same Blu-ray releases, right?
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From my findings, the US is 144:12, UK is 144:20, and AUS is 144:34. Just what I've found on other sites, I don't own all 3.
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New Zealand and Australia share the same Blu-ray releases, right?

Hmmm...I'm not 100% sure that we share all of the same releases with Australia but we're certainly both in the same BR region.
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