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Studio and Year: Sony Pictures - 2008
MPAA Rating: Unrated/PG-13
Feature running time: 102/92 Minutes
Genre: Action

Disc Format: BD-50
Encoding: AVC (MPEG-4)
Video Aspect: 2.40:1
Resolution: 1080p/24


Audio Format(s): English/French Dolby TrueHD 5.1, Spanish/Portuguese/Thai Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround
Subtitles: English, English SDH, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese, Korean, Thai, Indonesian
Starring: Will Smith, Charlize Theron, Jason Bateman, Eddie Marsan
Directed by: Peter Berg
Music by: John Powell
Written by: Vy Vincent Ngo & Vince Gilligan
Region Code: A,B,C

Blu-ray Disc release Date: November 25, 2008







"There are heroes. There are superheroes. And then there’s…"



Film Synopsis:

Academy Award® nominee Will Smith (Best Actor, The Pursuit of Happyness, 2006) stars in this action-packed comedy as Hancock, a sarcastic, hard-living and misunderstood superhero who has fallen out of favor with the public. When Hancock grudgingly agrees to an extreme makeover from idealistic publicist Ray Embrey (Jason Bateman), his life and reputation rise from the ashes and all seems right again--until he meets a woman with the key to his secret past.



My Take:

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I saw Hancock with my family back in July while out in California vacationing. I am a Will Smith fan and after seeing the trailer for Hancock I was intrigued. I thoroughly enjoyed the first hour of the movie. I thought it was funny, fresh, and drew some really solid characters. Then came the third act and I couldn’t figure out why in the world someone would think that was a good idea. It spoiled the film’s flow and just made the movie feel as though someone had a great idea but didn’t know how to finish the thought so someone without a clue did it for them. I am not going to discuss the story because I don’t want to give anything away. The unrated version is roughly 10 minutes longer and didn’t add anything substantial to the story. Jason Bateman is very likeable which seems to transcend even small roles he plays. This part seemed like kind of a waste for an actress like Charlize Theron but she did well and looked great doing so. While I didn’t like the later plot point I think that overall Hancock was lots of fun. It certainly puts a whole new spin on the superhero genre and its Will Smith so it can’t be all bad….





Parental Guide:

The rating is for intense sequences of sci-fi action, violence, and language. The unrated version has one scene that contains brief sexuality.






AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100 / EXCELLENT = 83-91 / GOOD = 74-82 / AVERAGE = 65-73 / BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**


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Audio: 84



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Video: 88


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Hancock comes to Blu-ray Disc from Sony Pictures featuring 1080p AVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 25 mbps and lossless Dolby TrueHD 5.1 channel audio that has an average bitrate of 1.9 mbps.

Sony has been very consistent in the quality of their high definition offerings on Blu-ray Disc. Here is another excellent example of their commitment to high quality video encodings. I saw Hancock this summer while I was out in Los Angeles and from what I recall this video presentation mirrored it’s theatrical presentation. Images are highly detailed with resolute sharpness and fine rendering that is striking. It uses high contrast and reduced brightness which gives the video a dynamic but relatively darker overall essence. Blacks are very deep but gradationally crushed which also had an effect on shadow detail perception. Sequences with lots of light have good depth but don’t really pop. Colors are deeply saturated with hot primaries, excellent delineation and palette extension. Flesh tones are on the golden/orange side which gives the majority of the cast sun exposed complexions. They had enough tonal variety to prevent them from being unnatural in appearance. Grain is present and naturally rendered in fine layers. I didn’t see any video noise or compression related anomalies. Overall quality is excellent.

The lossless Dolby TrueHD soundtrack delivers well defined and punchy dynamics that elevate the perception of the multitude of sounds contained in this complex surround mix. Surround activity is quite engaging at times as it portrays an aural image filled with discrete/ambient audio that encapsulates the listening position. Panning sequences are seamlessly mated with the onscreen events regardless of direction. The track’s higher resolution was evidenced by its high level clarity and smooth tonal perspective. This applied to the rendering of dialogue as well. I was a bit disappointed with the depth of low frequency effects. This film is tailor made for room filling, high quality, deep bass extension but it didn’t have near the impact that I anticipated. That is not to say that bass was lacking because it was definitely present. There are a number of sequences where the room should have been kinetically charged with bass energy but instead offered response that was palpable but never attained deep room penetration. Two examples that come to mind are the train stopping/crash and super being battle sequences. The impact of the train slamming into Hancock had plenty of dynamic punch and metal crunching clarity but was missing the deep, quick, low frequency burst that should have underscored it. The result definitely felt less visceral. The same was true during the battle sequence as Hancock is literally hit over the head with a large tractor trailer. Lots of descriptive clarity and dynamic range but no gut punching sub bass impact. The scene at the bank fared better but still didn’t provide the rich solidity and deep bass presence that would have enhanced the tactility of the explosive onscreen action. There are some encodings where the low frequency effects channel is mixed too hot which can certainly be a distraction. This film doesn’t require a constant bombardment of 25hz bass extension however there were times here where it would have augmented the action and just didn’t. This is still a excellent surround mix though and I am sure that fans of the film will find it enjoyable.



Bonus Features:

Blu-ray Disc Exclusive:


  • On set visual diary Bonus view PiP

  • (HD) Super humans: The making of Hancock

  • (HD) Seeing the future: A breakdown of 7 segments from the film

  • (HD) Building a better here – 8 minute feature on visual effects

  • (HD) Bumps and bruises: 10 minute feature on special effects/action sequences

  • (HD) Home life: 11 minute feature on the designing of the sets

  • (HD) Suiting up: 8 minute feature on designing the costumes/wardrobe

  • (HD) Mere mortals: 4 minute segment - Behind the scenes with “Dirty Pete” (Director Peter Berg

  • (HD) BD Previews

  • BD-Live enabled

  • D-Box Motion Code capable

  • Digital Copy: Bonus Disc that contains a standard definition copy of the film that can be downloaded from a compatible PC to a portable playback device
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Final Thoughts:

Hancock left me feeling somewhat disappointed. It wasn’t a bad movie but it wasn’t a good one either. The first hour was really very enjoyable and is the real reason to see the movie. I am sure there are many who enjoyed it as a whole. Its debut on high definition Blu-ray Disc from Sony comes day and date with its standard definition counterpart. The Blu-ray disc contains exclusive bonus content in addition to all of the special features found on the two disc DVD edition. Overall audio/video quality is strong although not quite to the level that I had hoped for. I would suggest a rental prior to purchase.







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Great review Ralph!... I thought that this could of been a demo disk but it seems that is not.... Hmm I had it for pre-order but now I am tempted to cancel it ...

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I saw this in the theaters and felt pretty much the same way as Raph. Hancock had the potential to be the next "Iron Man" but instead it just another entertaining but forgettable movie Too bad because I like Will.
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Ralph, very good analysis. Personaly, I was expecting more from this movie. Hope they won't make Hancock 2. I cannot recall how it was at the box office... Normally, tickets sale is a good indication, not always but in this case I doubt.
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Ralph -

I know this won't be the fault of the transferring, but the original source to begin with... but is the poor CGI just that much more noticeable when watching this on Blu?
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I haven't seen this movie and was waiting for the Blu Ray to come out....I just can't believe though after seeing the case artwork they have put a huge spoiler on it and well my enthusiasm has gone so i think i'll wait before seeing this.

From the review i think i would enjoy the image quality of this disc but i'm unsure about whether i'd enjoy the film...Parts of it sound fun and the trailer seemed ok but i now know a top secret from the film and it's spoiling it for me.
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Good review. I just don't understand how you can spend millions and millions of dollars on a movie and then just drop the ball on the ending. I am Legend was kind of the same way.

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I haven't seen this movie and was waiting for the Blu Ray to come out....I just can't believe though after seeing the case artwork they have put a huge spoiler on it and well my enthusiasm has gone so i think i'll wait before seeing this.

From the review i think i would enjoy the image quality of this disc but i'm unsure about whether i'd enjoy the film...Parts of it sound fun and the trailer seemed ok but i now know a top secret from the film and it's spoiling it for me.

Don't worry, everything leading up to said "top secret" is golden. Once you realize what it is, you end up not liking the movie as much either way anyway.

I'm still buying this on Black Friday, guaranteed.
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I saw this in the theaters and felt pretty much the same way as Raph. Hancock had the potential to be the next "Iron Man" but instead it just another entertaining but forgettable movie Too bad because I like Will.

It looked derivative in the trailers. Tony Stark is already an alcoholic super hero. Plus Peter Berg is a bit overrated(then again I think Michael Mann is too). But I'll reserve final judgement until I see some more films from him.

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I didn't think Hancock was a great movie, but I was definately not disappointed.
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Sure, the movie makes a big shift when Charlize's powers are revealed, but it also leads to revealing the reasons for Hancock's bad attitude. He had serious issues with the situation revolving around his last memories, wondering why no one cared or why there was no one to care.
The last half of the movie explains all of that. I did think they could have come up with a better "villain" character.

Hope I didn't spoil this for anyone, but I just thought the movie was better than it was getting credit for here.

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I didn't think Hancock was a great movie, but I was definately not disappointed.
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Sure, the movie makes a big shift when Charlize's powers are revealed, but it also leads to revealing the reasons for Hancock's bad attitude. He had serious issues with the situation revolving around his last memories, wondering why no one cared or why there was no one to care.
The last half of the movie explains all of that. I did think they could have come up with a better "villain" character.

Hope I didn't spoil this for anyone, but I just thought the movie was better than it was getting credit for here.

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BTW, I Am Legend was a modern day tragedy. When the reality of what he had caused and how unlikely it was to be resolved hit, it was REALLY DEEP. It affected me more after the movie than during it.

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BT, I edited your post and added spoiler tags. Please be sure to use them in the future when making a post of this sort.

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Dumb question here, but how you add spoiler tags?

I only see three options QUOTE, CODE & PHP tags. I don't even know that the last two should be use for.
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Dumb question here, but how you add spoiler tags?

I only see three options QUOTE, CODE & PHP tags. I don't even know that the last two should be use for.

Greetings,

Just place the text you want to hide between these [spolier] [/spolier] I mispelled spoiler so it would show up.

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BT, I edited your post and added spoiler tags. Please be sure to use them in the future when making a post of this sort.

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First half of the film was great, the second half awful. This script needed several more rewrites. Great premise but poorly executed. I am sure there will be another. Hopefully they will take what was great about the first half and run with it. Other than the poor script, the real shocker for me was the audio which is not what I expected in terms of quality.

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Well im still keeping mine on order and still looking forward in watching it.A few people who I know went to cinemas and thought it was great.

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Well im still keeping mine on order and still looking forward in watching it.A few people who I know went to cinemas and thought it was great.

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watched this last week in bluray, loved it
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Wouldn't life be dull if we all liked the same movies, food and music?

Superhero movies are my favorite genre and I LOVED Hancock. Absolutely going to buy as soon as I can.

Working at a Christian college most of my co-workers didn't like the film for all of the F-bombs. They didn't bother me or my family at all, really.

It probably helps me to hold the movie in such high esteem since two of my favorite actors are in it.
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Ralph, have to say I agree in the Lfe of this film the bass was there but the scenes you mentioned the low frequncey is present but it felt they held back.The film in general was ok, but as some mentioned could of better.

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I want 2 hours of my life back... What a waste. Too much soundtrack tipped to the front and low end tepid at best. Complete waste.

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I wasn't sure what to expect, but I thought it was a decent movie. Worth renting at least. But do agree with prior posts about the ending.. Could have been done quite a bit better..
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I watched the movie last night and I agree with the review..in both the audio and the video I always though something was missing...in the audio it lack the depth and extension in the lfe also I think the use of the surrounds could of been better...

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So glad i'm not the only one who felt the audio was lacking.
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Hancock is one of those films you either love or hate, no middle ground. My wife and I fall in the latter category, and we're big Will Smith fans. But this movie did him no favors -- it was a mess, flat out horrible. We suffered through the first 20 minutes of it, hoping it would improve, but never did so we gave up. Thank God I Netflixed it.
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This is the first film i have seen that that the compressed dolby was not 640kb but the regular 448kb.I have the Canadian French labeled version.The sound seemed rather flat.
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Ralph,

Your review speaks for me too. I think what I learned from the extra's is that the script came from a book. They didn't stray from the story line of the stupid book! What a cool movie that would have been without that freak out twist.

Big Will Smith fan here so I enjoyed the film overall.

Off Topic: Did you write a review on the BD55 and do you recommend it for the best "bang for the buck" player of today? I've followed your gear picks for a long time and miss your gear reviews. You have a way of finding the best stuff that don't have the huge price tags.

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Your review speaks for me too. I think what I learned from the extra's is that the script came from a book. They didn't stray from the story line of the stupid book! What a cool movie that would have been without that freak out twist.

Big Will Smith fan here so I enjoyed the film overall.

Off Topic: Did you write a review on the BD55 and do you recommend it for the best "bang for the buck" player of today? I've followed your gear picks for a long time and miss your gear reviews. You have a way of finding the best stuff that don't have the huge price tags.

Thanks,

Brian (BassEarDrum)

Greetings,

Hey Brian ! It's good to see you here. I would say that the Panasonic BD-35 is the better bang for the buck. Its $100 cheaper and gives nothing away in terms of sound/picture quality.

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