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The Review at a Glance: (max score: 5 )

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Audio/Video total rating:

( Max score: 100 )

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Studio and Year: 20th Century Fox - 2008
MPAA Rating: PG-13/Unrated
Feature running time: 100/103 Minutes
Genre: Action

Disc Format: BD-50
Encoding: AVC (MPEG-4)
Video Aspect: 2.35:1
Resolution: 1080p/24


Audio Format(s): English DTS-HD 5.1 Master Audio, Spanish/French Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: English SDH, Spanish, Mandarin, Korean
Starring: Mark Wahlberg, Mila Kunis, Beau Bridges, Ludacris, Olga Kurylenko, Donal Loque, Chris O'Donnell
Directed by: John Moore
Music by: Marco Beltrami & Buck Sanders
Written by: Beau Thorne
Region Code: A

Blu-ray Disc release Date: January 20, 2009







"A man with nothing to lose"



Film Synopsis:

Max Payne (Wahlberg) is a maverick cop with little regard for rules and nothing left to lose. Hell-bent on revenge, he's determined to track down those responsible for the brutal murder of his family, but his obsessive investigation takes him on a nightmarish journey where dark fantasy collides with stark reality. As the mystery deepens, Max is forced to battle enemies beyond the natural world...and face an unthinkable betrayal that will drive him to the edge of his own sanity.






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This film is based on the popular video game series by Remedy Entertainment. Here is some quick background from Wikipedia:

The Max Payne series is influenced by Mad Max, directed by George Miller, and the Hong Kong action cinema genre, particularly the work of director John Woo. It was one of the first video games to incorporate the "bullet time" effect into gameplay, made famous by The Matrix trilogy. The game contains many allusions to Norse mythology, particularly Ragnarok, and several of the names used in the game (Alfred Woden, Alex Balder, Aesir Corporation, Asgard Building, Valkyr) are those of the Norse gods and mythos. The game script has a notable gritty noir spirit and bears strong resemblance to hard-boiled detective novels by authors like Mickey Spillane.

I have never played the game but as someone who enjoys first person shooters I may have to give it a try. The story in the film plays out with the look and feel of a video game. The back story is told using flashbacks and the screenplay is simply written. Max Payne is a NY City Detective whose wife and child were murdered three years before the start of this story. He has spent every waking minute since them trying to capture the perpetrator and solve the case. His wife was working for a pharmaceutical company when she died and Max's good friend BB Hensley (Bridges) is their head of security and a retired NY City cop. While chasing down leads at a club owned by one of his informants Max runs into an attractive young woman with a tattoo of a pair of wings on her arm. There is more to her than meets the eye and unbeknownst to Max this meeting will lead him deep into an underground world of violence, drugs, and allow him to come face to face with those responsible for the murder of his family.

This film has a rather paper thin premise but being based upon a video game I didn't expect a crafty thriller. Like the film version of Hitman this story follows a simple path built around a singular goal. Along the way the plot tries to thicken but it's pretty transparent. In reality we don't sit down to watch movies like this hoping for drama we watch them for the action. There is enough of it here to keep it interesting but it isn't as slick as I had hoped. I thought that Mark Wahlberg was fine in the part but the dialogue felt borrowed and the connection to other characters in the movie was missing. I liked Mila Kunis as Mona Sax although she seemed just tad too young for someone in Mona's position but it was fine. Beau Bridges as BB? Nope, it just didn't work in my opinion. The ending felt unfinished, as though they didn't have anything left to say so that was it. I have seen worse so I won't complain. When all was said and done I thought that this could certainly have been better but I felt that its action based elements were good enough that I will give it another spin. I watched the Unrated Cut which adds 3 additional minutes on to the Theatrical version.





Parental Guide:

This film contains violence including intense shooting sequences, drug content, some sexuality and brief strong language.






AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100 / EXCELLENT = 83-91 / GOOD = 74-82 / AVERAGE = 65-73 / BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**


(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)

Audio: 94



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Video: 88


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Max Payne comes to Blu-ray Disc from Fox featuring 1080p AVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 24 mbps and lossless DTS-HD 5.1 Master Audio sound that has an average bitrate of 4.4 mbps.

This is a rather dark film that strives to recreate the look and feel of the video game. I haven't played the game but I have played many and I think that this video presentation does a great job in that regard. Blacks are deep/inky without compromise to delineation, and appear dynamic and velvety in texture. They look stunning when onscreen with mixed content. The beginning of chapter 5 offers a good example. The camera pans down a darkened street as a street light illuminates falling snow. The flakes are bright white and appear three dimensional as they drift slowly past the camera against the deep, multi-stage black background. Shadow detail is as good as I have seen and offers excellent depth of field and perceptible nuance in the various segments that utilize uneven lighting. The film doesn't make use of an extensive array of colors but primary colors (especially red), are punchy, bright and well saturated. Many scenes in the film use a stylized look compromised mostly of dark blues, grays, browns and blacks which does a decent job of conveying the film's CGI based elements. While these segments don't boast eye catching vivid colors they look stunning. Combined with the video's excellent resolution these scenes have superlative depth that captures even the most subtle elements seen by the camera's lens. The result is an excellent video presentation that features crisp high level detail, incredible three dimensional depth and rich, defining blacks.

This is a film that is tailor made for lossless audio's higher fidelity and this DTS-HD Master Audio encoding doesn't disappoint. This is a reference quality soundtrack that bristles with active surround sound, extended dynamic range, and prodigious, room filling bass that all makes for an engaging home theater experience. Right from the outset it was clear that this was an aggressive mix. The scene in the subway bathroom sounded full bodied with crisp detail, and definitive low level punch that augmented the impact of gunshots and the perception of lesser sounds present in the recording. The sounds of whizzing bullets, fragmented objects, large scale explosions and the resonation of gunfire were presented in a cohesive aural pattern that engulfed the sweet spot. I found the attention to detail regarding the placement of discrete sound effects to impressive. At one point I had to turn and look over my shoulder as I would have bet that there was a bird flying around in the back of my theater. There are several gunfire exchanges in the film that are worthy of demonstration material but for me THE scene that impressed me most was in chapter 24. As Max is hallucinating and falls to his knees there is a swarm of Valkyrie above him as the ceiling erupts in fire and swirling masses. You are going to want to turn this scene up but be warned that it may bottom out lesser capable subwoofers. This short but captivating segment delivers a wave of sound that comes at you from every angle to place you right in the middle of the action. Its effect is heightened by the presence of powerful, ultra low bass energy that is the kind that just simply puts a smile on your face. The other aspects of this soundtrack which include the rendering of dialogue, soundstage balance and transparent acoustics were top notch. This might not be a great film but it may be worth the price of admission for its technical merits alone.



Bonus Features:


  • Commentary by Director John Moore, Production Designer Daniel Dorrance, and Visual Effects Supervisor Everett Burrell

  • Featurettes:

    1. Picture: Parts 1 & 2 - totaling just under an hour
    2. (HD) Michelle Payne Graphic Novel - animated stills (13 minutes)

  • Blu-ray Disc Exclusive: Bonusview PiP - Walk throughs and cheats, behind the scenes featurette, interview with Director John Moore

  • Theatrical and Unrated versions of the film

  • (HD) BD Previews - Babylon A.D. and Mirrors

  • Digital Copy Bonus Disc - A standard definition version of the film that can be downloaded from a compatible PC to a portable playback device

  • D-Box Motion Code
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Final Thoughts:

Max Payne represents another screen adaptation of a popular video game that as a movie fails to deliver solid writing and coherent direction. While it may not represent a well conceived, slickly directed action film it does make for a great looking Blu-ray Disc with Reference quality DTS-HD MA sound and a handful of decent extras that include Blu-ray exclusive content. I can't recommend this is a blind buy but for fans and those who are looking for a great demo worthy disc this one rocks.








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When this movie came out I told my friends that I had a urge to go see a action packed movie a la Planet Terror, True Lies, Eraser, Commando, Rambo (last one), etc because I haven't seen one in awhile. I didn't care too much about plot or acting. Just wanted to see bunch of people getting shot at and not a lot of dialog. This movie couldn't even deliver that, boring as hell
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Having been a great fan of the games ( I hope they still release the third one) I don't understand how or why the needed to add "unnatural" things, it's been stopping me from seeing the Movie.
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was on the fence if this should go into my collection until now. Definitely gotta have it.

Thanks for your review as always Ralph.

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Having been a great fan of the games ( I hope they still release the third one) I don't understand how or why the needed to add "unnatural" things, it's been stopping me from seeing the Movie.

Possible spoilers (I don't think so.. but just in case) Below:

Its just like the game. I have played all of them so many times its probably sad. The only things that is obviously different is the lack of action. The game centers around bullet time and waves of enemies you have to go through (while developing plot of course) to get to the end.

The movie only has one bullet time scene (and this is one of probably three or four scenes that is action oriented). If there was more action it would have been more true to the game franchise and a better movie overall.

The supernatural stuff doesn't take away from it.
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This film has a rather paper thin premise but being based upon a video game I didn’t expect a crafty thriller.

Which is the unfortunately reality of too many video game based movies. They are actually in a similar position to where Comic Book movies were for a long time before they broke out into megahit status.

Hollywood doesn't seem to take them seriously in the areas of writing and storyline. People forget that most comic book movies were once handled very similarly. Now comic superheroes get 1st class treatment all the way.

Sounds like it might be a buy for me based on mostly aesthetics.
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Which is the unfortunately reality of too many video game based movies. They are actually in a similar position to where Comic Book movies were for a long time before they broke out into megahit status.

Hollywood doesn't seem to take them seriously in the areas of writing and storyline. People forget that most comic book movies were once handled very similarly. Now comic superheroes get 1st class treatment all the way.

Good point.

It's too bad because Max Payne had a good storyline in the game. It was practically a screenplay. All they had to do was film it. But Hollywood couldn't even manage that.

One of these days they'll make a good one.
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Fantastic review thanks Ralph. Looking forward in getting my copy.

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Fantastic review thanks Ralph. Looking forward in getting my copy.

Agreed,no matter this movie is good or bad,for this review just PQ and SQ is enough the reason to own this BD,Why mine is late.
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Agreed,no matter this movie is good or bad,for this review just PQ and SQ is enough the reason to own this BD,Why mine is late.

Hopefully mine should arrive monday.

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I wouldn't consider this movie a "buy" for any reason. It's just terrible... and I actually like Wahlberg. There is plenty of demo material to be had, build a library based on quality and if you care about this franchise based on your video game experiences you'll be served just fine with a rental. Trust me, save your money.
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I want to say"Run Forrest Run" to get this one.
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Possible spoilers (I don't think so.. but just in case) Below:

Its just like the game. I have played all of them so many times its probably sad. The only things that is obviously different is the lack of action. The game centers around bullet time and waves of enemies you have to go through (while developing plot of course) to get to the end.

The movie only has one bullet time scene (and this is one of probably three or four scenes that is action oriented). If there was more action it would have been more true to the game franchise and a better movie overall.

The supernatural stuff doesn't take away from it.

I've only played the 2nd max payne, but i don't remember any supernatural stuff. I did think the plot in the movie was pretty cheesy, once again another video game to movie adaptation fails to please.
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Agreed,no matter this movie is good or bad,for this review just PQ and SQ is enough the reason to own this BD,Why mine is late.

that's like saying you're going to buy a game with crap game play because it has pretty graphics, or date a dumb as hell girl cause she's hot. I wouldn't waste my money on either.
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Its a great guy brainless action flic. I enjoyed the game. I also enjoyed the movie. There are differences between both, of course. But just a few. They never can seem to get it right, but not enough to take away from the story completely. I will be buying this though. I still thought it was a cool movie.

I like the fact the demons were shown as to get a somewhat reality of what was going on. Didn't take away from the movie at all to me.
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I made the mistake of wasting money on a rental for this when I should have gone with my first instinct and bought it! I'm sure my lower expectations enhanced my enjoyment of this flick, but I liked it. The story was ok, PQ was great and AQ was off the charts awesome!
There is no "supernatural" persay, just drug induced hallucinations which fit the first video game and the movie, IMHO.
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What a total snoozer. I was so glad when it was over. Good looking and sounding disc, though.

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Will be looking forward in watching this copy tonight.

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or date a dumb as hell girl cause she's hot. I wouldn't waste my money on either.

I dont know about this one

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Watched this last night and have to say I thorougly enjoyed it.

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Good call on chapter 24 Ralph.....best audio of the film. After the movie I went and rewatched this scene again and just took it all in. You could almost see the LFE energy in the air!

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I didn't have any issues with the video or audio but the movie was a complete bore IMO. I really liked the game back in the day but this was a disaster from beginning to end. It will not be finding a home in my collection.

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After watching "Max Payne" several times, I will say that it is now one of my favorite
Bass Demo in my blu-ray collection. The bass is so deep, powerful and tight, that it is a marvelous pleasure to experience. I am very happy with the video transfer also. The film
itself might not win any Oscars, but the sound design is enormously satisfying.

So, I agree with you Ralph, on your objective and refreshing review.

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I loved it....although I had to watch it twice to actually "get" the story line.

My husband, of course, is a big Max Payne fan and got it the first time around.
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Watched MP last night and here's my comments:

As a movie (plot, acting, etc) it was average for an action movie which is to say not so good. 50%

The video (PQ) seemed pretty good to me but this movie, like a lot of action movies, love to use nightime/rain as it must simplify the CGI. 65%

The audio is where this movie stands out as it seems it was designed to exercise your subwoofer. In fact, I'd say they go too far with the audio effects. But, even though it does overuse the sound effects it will make for a great demo. 75%


Overall I'd put this at about 60% or 3 out of 5. Now if they'd actually shown Olga naked I'd rank it MUCH higher!


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I really enjoyed this movie in the theater...a blind buy for me
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Saw it this weekend. I don't know anything about the game, I can however say it works well as a film and I was suprised how much I enjoyed it. Yes, it's a bit simple in it's premise but very good in it's execution.

Picture was very good but the sound blew me away!! Incredibl surrounds throughout the movie. A reference track.
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Tanks for great review. ALtought i dont like this type of movies im going to watch it for audio and video experience
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Just watched it yesterday. The story was ok and the video is good but the audio was excellent. A good mix of LFE that worked my system and was very enjoyable. If you like shoot-em up type flicks, then this is a must have.
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Man, what were they smoking when they made this awful movie?
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