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Anyone with an Oppo having trouble getting audio from the 3d disc? It seems fine on the 2d disc

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I didn't notice any issues with audio on my Oppo 93 when playing the 3D disc. I was using the 7.1 track if that matters.

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ROCK'EM SOCK'EM GIANT ROBOTS...!!!!!!!! making the walls move.....7.1 uped to 9.3.....an the 3d, WOW ! it was a fun movie that for me was worth the $.

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Just finished it. Honestly, the last time I watched a movie this fun was the first Transformers. I will never forget the moment that Pave Low transformed; watching my favorite cartoon as a child come to life on the screen was unforgettable. This had a similar impact.....Robotech, Voltron, Transformers, and Godzilla.
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Yeah, different strokes for different folks. This film was an homage to old school Kaiju films, of which Ralph apparently is a fan of. As a fan myself, it brought me back to my childhood and put a huge smile on my face while watching. If you grew up a fan of the genre, I'd be surprised if you didn't enjoy this because this movie was made for those genre fans. If you walked out prior to the Hong Kong sequence, then you really missed out.

I am totally one of those folks. My father was in the Air Force when I was growing up and we lived in Japan when I was young (i'm 44 now). This movie totally brought me back and I loved it. I wish it had done better in the US box office I would love to see another.

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Totally agree with the review Ralph. Great job.

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FUN, FUN, FUN! What a great HT ride this was! Total powerhouse audio track that fit the film perfectly highlighted by POTENT and THICK LFE. Not the deepest bass, but so LOUD and appropriately powerful! LOVED IT!

The 2d PQ was fantastic.

I wish I had time to watch the 3d version tonight as I would start it right back up and take this ride again! biggrin.gif

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Super fun movie, missed it in the theater but was really fun from the couch. The wife didn't enjoy it very much but I didn't expect her to. Sorry it wasn't the cinematic masterpiece that is the Twilight Saga. But as a guy that grew up watching Robotech, Voltron, Transformers, etc on a 13" TV it was everything I expected it to be. Kick ass loud giant robots fighting really good looking monsters!

Was it predictable? Yes
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i would let my 7 year old. but first watch the extra's. then tell mom go shopping then have fun.....play it loud.....

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Plot....4
Video....9.7
Audio...10

The LFE is off the chain. Several scenes with just fantastic LFE and the scenes went on for minutes (none of that 10 second demo scene and then you are done). Made my dual JTR S2 subs howl.


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I enjoyed watching this in 3D last night because It brought to 'life' all the old Japanese robot/creature cartoons/films of the past! Fun ride and well worth the coin spent on this BD!

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I'm glad everyone is enjoying PR! I'll be picking up my copy today and watching it tonight. I get more excited about watching these kind of flics at home than I do going to the cinema.
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Greetings,

I am glad to hear that you guys are enjoying the presentation as much as I did. cool.gif


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I am totally one of those folks. My father was in the Air Force when I was growing up and we lived in Japan when I was young (i'm 44 now). This movie totally brought me back and I loved it. I wish it had done better in the US box office I would love to see another.

It did very well overseas, a sequel is planned:

http://moviepilot.com/stories/1045313-guillermo-del-toro-confirms-pacific-rim-2-and-spills-some-ideas
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Well Ralph, the movie certainly lived up to your once again, great review. I might add that I feel this is the best 3D presentation with the Star Trek movie being the second best. If fact, the critics who say 3D is dead are wrong. This movie lead me to believe the the 3d televison technology surpasses that of the filmakers with them finally catching up. The effects on my Sony XBR 55HX929 were simply stunning.
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Well Ralph, the movie certainly lived up to your once again, great review. I might add that I feel this is the best 3D presentation with the Star Trek movie being the second best. If fact, the critics who say 3D is dead are wrong. This movie lead me to believe the the 3d televison technology surpasses that of the filmakers with them finally catching up. The effects on my Sony XBR 55HX929 were simply stunning.

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Just picked up the 3D version.

Regarding the Blu-Ray itself: there's a problem with my copy, and I'm hoping it's not an issue with the entire run.

During the opening fight sequence (Gipsy Danger vs. "Knifehead"), something is seriously off with the 3D encoding. I don't know if it's the convergence point, or a problem with left/right sorting or what, but the bulk of that scene is like watching through two misaligned telescopes. It's very hard to resolve a stereo image, and it feels almost "inside out". I'll leave the technical dissection to people more knowledgeable than myself, but suffice it to say there's a significant problem there. Watching it on a PS3, if that helps.

Happily, the remainder of the movie seems to be just fine. It's just disappointing that the problem would have to manifest throughout one of the major combat setpieces.

Has anyone else experienced this? I can't imagine it's just my disc, things generally don't work like that any more. If nobody else reports problems, I guess I'll try an exchange. Also wondering if I should post about this elsewhere, rather than burying it in a review thread.

(For the record, the film itself is incredible. Most fun movie I've seen in ages... if you have a sense of fun and aren't a stick-in-the-mud, this is a no-hesitation buy. Hands down, my favorite movie of the year.)

I had the same experience too. Seemed to be about 20 or so minutes into the movie and lasted a few minutes. It gave me a headache for that short period and I was getting worried until the next scene it went away thankfully. I seen the same thing in an underwater scene in Journey 2 when they r going inside the Nautilous.

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I'm glad everyone is enjoying PR! I'll be picking up my copy today and watching it tonight. I get more excited about watching these kind of flics at home than I do going to the cinema.

I got mine from Amazon yesterday but will be watching tonight as well. I also ran yet another Audyssey calibration that yielded some outstanding results wink.gif I warmed up with "Transformers" over the weekend to get in the "wow its a giant fighting robot" mood biggrin.gif Now only to decide,is how hot to run the sub rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gif

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I got mine from Amazon yesterday but will be watching tonight as well. I also ran yet another Audyssey calibration that yielded some outstanding results wink.gif I warmed up with "Transformers" over the weekend to get in the "wow its a giant fighting robot" mood biggrin.gif Now only to decide,is how hot to run the sub rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gif

Have fun smile.gif

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No need to run it too hot audiofan1. This soundtrack delivers lots of room shaking bass.... cool.gif


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I got mine from Amazon yesterday but will be watching tonight as well. I also ran yet another Audyssey calibration that yielded some outstanding results wink.gif I warmed up with "Transformers" over the weekend to get in the "wow its a giant fighting robot" mood biggrin.gif Now only to decide,is how hot to run the sub rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gif

Have fun smile.gif



Awesome! I got the 3D version with 2D BD also. My panel is not 3D but I'm going to pull the trigger on a Panny ST60 soon so I might as well get ready. Crank it up audiofan1!
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I got mine from Amazon yesterday but will be watching tonight as well. I also ran yet another Audyssey calibration that yielded some outstanding results wink.gif I warmed up with "Transformers" over the weekend to get in the "wow its a giant fighting robot" mood biggrin.gif Now only to decide,is how hot to run the sub rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gif

Have fun smile.gif

I watched it last night and was running about +11. It was crazy! My head felt like it was stuffed with cotton.

Not much in the way of very low lfe though...just steady bass.

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11db hot and I thought I was bad because I run my sub 6db to 8db hot for music biggrin.gif

This is my first 3D purchase, do all the 4 disc packages have the discs stacked on top of other? I've boughten 3 disc ones that all had separate trays. This is really a terrible idea.
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11db hot and I thought I was bad because I run my sub 6db to 8db hot for music biggrin.gif

This is my first 3D purchase, do all the 4 disc packages have the discs stacked on top of other? I've boughten 3 disc ones that all had separate trays. This is really a terrible idea.

Yeah I don't like when they stack discs like that either and not all 3D BD cases are like that. I prefer the way Disney organizes their discs in the pack.

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I had the same experience too. Seemed to be about 20 or so minutes into the movie and lasted a few minutes. It gave me a headache for that short period and I was getting worried until the next scene it went away thankfully. I seen the same thing in an underwater scene in Journey 2 when they r going inside the Nautilous.


I've now seen two different discs (I returned my Wal-Mart copy as defective and bought another at Best Buy just to be safe) - and I can now confirm that it happened on both. This was the standard 3D version, not the collector package.

During the affected part of the movie, it appears that the 3D depth setting jumps to a way higher value than the rest of the film. It's similar to cranking the depth slider all the way up on a Nintendo 3DS, on a game that already runs deep. The result is pretty much instant eyestrain and, if you're prone to it, a headache. Feels kinda like someone is holding a magnifier over one of your eyes.


LIGHT SPOILERS in the timing description below!]


* The problem starts at exactly 11:15 in, and it's directly on a cut: the scene is just after Gipsy Danger does the overhand double-smash (aka the "James T. Kirk") on Knifehead. The kaiju goes underwater, then - on the cut - just as he comes up and bites Gipsy's arm, the depth problem appears.

* It lasts until 14:35. The plasma cannon discharges, followed by a scene of Marshall Pentecost in the command center - he's walking away worriedly. Cross-fade to a snowy beach, as two small figures walk. Right when we cut to the medium shot of the old man and the kid walking the beach with the metal detector, the depth problem vanishes. It doesn't return for the rest of the film.


I would imagine that if a whole batch (or eight) of Pacific Rim discs exhibit this problem, it would be grounds for a replacement program. This really kills one of the movie's best fight scenes, though at least the duration is pretty short. Now that we've got the exact timing of the issue, please have another look at your own disc and post your findings here...
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Yeah I don't like when they stack discs like that either and not all 3D BD cases are like that. I prefer the way Disney organizes their discs in the pack.



I'll have to watch for this and be more careful, because I dropped the special features disc and scratched it a little.
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No need to run it too hot audiofan1. This soundtrack delivers lots of room shaking bass.... cool.gif


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I got mine from Amazon yesterday but will be watching tonight as well. I also ran yet another Audyssey calibration that yielded some outstanding results wink.gif I warmed up with "Transformers" over the weekend to get in the "wow its a giant fighting robot" mood biggrin.gif Now only to decide,is how hot to run the sub rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gif

Have fun smile.gif



Awesome! I got the 3D version with 2D BD also. My panel is not 3D but I'm going to pull the trigger on a Panny ST60 soon so I might as well get ready. Crank it up audiofan1!
If you happen to be a 3D fan, you might want to consider the F8500 instead. The class leading brightness that the panel is capable of is an important difference for 3D.

A lot of folks complain that 3D is very dark on their displays, making dark 3D movies even harder to make out. The F8500 can get bright enough that I can actually watch a 3D movie in the daytime with ambient light in the room (though I much prefer night time with no ambient light).


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Awesome! I got the 3D version with 2D BD also. My panel is not 3D but I'm going to pull the trigger on a Panny ST60 soon so I might as well get ready. Crank it up audiofan1!

I was so close to ordering glasses and STID in 3d, as its all I've needed to take the plunge for 2yrs but after trying to find good glasses for my Mits 73" Dlp, I ended up ordering movies and music instead tongue.gif but I'll try again in a few weeks biggrin.gif
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I had the same experience too. Seemed to be about 20 or so minutes into the movie and lasted a few minutes. It gave me a headache for that short period and I was getting worried until the next scene it went away thankfully. I seen the same thing in an underwater scene in Journey 2 when they r going inside the Nautilous.


I've now seen two different discs (I returned my Wal-Mart copy as defective and bought another at Best Buy just to be safe) - and I can now confirm that it happened on both. This was the standard 3D version, not the collector package.

During the affected part of the movie, it appears that the 3D depth setting jumps to a way higher value than the rest of the film. It's similar to cranking the depth slider all the way up on a Nintendo 3DS, on a game that already runs deep. The result is pretty much instant eyestrain and, if you're prone to it, a headache. Feels kinda like someone is holding a magnifier over one of your eyes.


LIGHT SPOILERS in the timing description below!]


* The problem starts at exactly 11:15 in, and it's directly on a cut: the scene is just after Gipsy Danger does the overhand double-smash (aka the "James T. Kirk") on Knifehead. The kaiju goes underwater, then - on the cut - just as he comes up and bites Gipsy's arm, the depth problem appears.

* It lasts until 14:35. The plasma cannon discharges, followed by a scene of Marshall Pentecost in the command center - he's walking away worriedly. Cross-fade to a snowy beach, as two small figures walk. Right when we cut to the medium shot of the old man and the kid walking the beach with the metal detector, the depth problem vanishes. It doesn't return for the rest of the film.


I would imagine that if a whole batch (or eight) of Pacific Rim discs exhibit this problem, it would be grounds for a replacement program. This really kills one of the movie's best fight scenes, though at least the duration is pretty short. Now that we've got the exact timing of the issue, please have another look at your own disc and post your findings here...
About to watch this tonight. I definitely hope to be one of the lucky ones to NOT experience any anomalies.

BTW, when folks encounter anomalies, whether it's 3D weirdness, visual banding (different review thread), audio anomalies or something else, could they please post their equipment chain as well as where they got their copies from (eg. Walmart, Best Buy, European release etc.)?

For example, the Total Recall 2012 BD produced audio dropouts when the BDP was set to Bitstream output, but was fine if the player performed the decoding and output LPCM. The audio dropouts with Bitstream ONLY occurred with certain brands of players though (and fortunately there was a simple workaround).

This way, we might be able to narrow down where the problem might crop up.


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I've now seen two different discs (I returned my Wal-Mart copy as defective and bought another at Best Buy just to be safe) - and I can now confirm that it happened on both. This was the standard 3D version, not the collector package.

During the affected part of the movie, it appears that the 3D depth setting jumps to a way higher value than the rest of the film. It's similar to cranking the depth slider all the way up on a Nintendo 3DS, on a game that already runs deep. The result is pretty much instant eyestrain and, if you're prone to it, a headache. Feels kinda like someone is holding a magnifier over one of your eyes.


LIGHT SPOILERS in the timing description below!]


* The problem starts at exactly 11:15 in, and it's directly on a cut: the scene is just after Gipsy Danger does the overhand double-smash (aka the "James T. Kirk") on Knifehead. The kaiju goes underwater, then - on the cut - just as he comes up and bites Gipsy's arm, the depth problem appears.

* It lasts until 14:35. The plasma cannon discharges, followed by a scene of Marshall Pentecost in the command center - he's walking away worriedly. Cross-fade to a snowy beach, as two small figures walk. Right when we cut to the medium shot of the old man and the kid walking the beach with the metal detector, the depth problem vanishes. It doesn't return for the rest of the film.


I would imagine that if a whole batch (or eight) of Pacific Rim discs exhibit this problem, it would be grounds for a replacement program. This really kills one of the movie's best fight scenes, though at least the duration is pretty short. Now that we've got the exact timing of the issue, please have another look at your own disc and post your findings here...

Nice detective work bro. Ill have to revisit it tonight and check those times. I specifically remebered it around the 14:35 point you mention above (I had guessed around 20 min in)when the plasma cannon goes off and when the Marshal is in the command center and he walks away.

I too got mine at Walmart too.

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About to watch this tonight. I definitely hope to be one of the lucky ones to NOT experience any anomalies.

BTW, when folks encounter anomalies, whether it's 3D weirdness, visual banding (different review thread), audio anomalies or something else, could they please post their equipment chain as well as where they got their copies from (eg. Walmart, Best Buy, European release etc.)?

For example, the Total Recall 2012 BD produced audio dropouts when the BDP was set to Bitstream output, but was fine if the player performed the decoding and output LPCM. The audio dropouts with Bitstream ONLY occurred with certain brands of players though (and fortunately there was a simple workaround).

This way, we might be able to narrow down where the problem might crop up.


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Ill post since I had the same experience.

Regular 3D copy from Walmart (not collectors)
PS3 Slim Bitstreaming 7.1 DTS HDMA
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BenQW7000 projecter
Tru-Depth 3D glasses

I also had the audio dropouts on my copy of Total Recall BD that you referred too.

I had a blast watching PR in 3D though! The PQ was phenomenal besides the short 3D issue and the audio was smack full of bass the whole time. It seems to be a very loud recording. My only complaint was the lack of ULF below 20hz. I also prefer movies to have a little less of the droning bass. Im splitting hairs though I really enjoyed it.

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