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post #31 of 55 Old 11-23-2013, 08:37 AM
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About the only benefit from the issuing of a "corrected" 96K upsampled version would be making the original version available at a discount.

Make no mistake about it - a 96K soundtrack that was originally captured digitally at 96K is well worth having, but a soundtrack created at 48K (the current video standard) or via analog tape and then upsampled has no more information in it than the original.

I'm a big fan of 96K sampling, when that's the sampling rate when the sound is originally captured - as is done by AIX Records in California - but upsampling audio does nothing but give you the same signal in a bigger container. I believe this fits the description "Old wine in new bottles."

I'll wait for the 96K version to be released - and then I'll grab the original 48K version when it's clearanced!

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About the only benefit from the issuing of a "corrected" 96K upsampled version would be making the original version available at a discount.

Make no mistake about it - a 96K soundtrack that was originally captured digitally at 96K is well worth having, but a soundtrack created at 48K (the current video standard) or via analog tape and then upsampled has no more information in it than the original.

I'm a big fan of 94K sampling, when that's the sampling rate when the sound is originally captured - as is done by AIX Records in California - but upsampling audio does nothing but give you the same signal in a bigger container. I believe this fits the description "Old wine in new bottles."

I'll wait for the 96K version to be released - and then I'll grab the original 48K version when it's clearanced!

-Phil
This is reassuring for us 48k owners.
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Make no mistake about it - a 96K soundtrack that was originally captured digitally at 96K is well worth having, but a soundtrack created at 48K (the current video standard) or via analog tape and then upsampled has no more information in it than the original.

I'm a big fan of 96K sampling, when that's the sampling rate when the sound is originally captured - as is done by AIX Records in California - but upsampling audio does nothing but give you the same signal in a bigger container.

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Elevating the Performance of Lossless Audio in the Home Theater: Dolby® TrueHD with Advanced 96k Upsampling
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So the upshot is that 48k does benefit from a 96k upsampled package. Another darn. The paper is very clear on why the upsampled version is better.

Philnick makes the analogy that 96k is simply a bigger bottle for the same amount of wine. But it is how that wine is handled and delivered that makes the difference.

Does anyone have any knowledge of which version Amazon is selling? I've already got the 48k version so I'm waiting until I find a definite 96k version.
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I contacted the Warner Store on Friday and the sales person checked with her supervisor about the 96K upsampling issue. Nobody knew anything about it - so if a correction is in the works it's not common knowledge. I haven't listened yet to my 48K copy and will probably return it to Amazon until the version they advertised and I thought I bought is an actuality.
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About the only benefit from the issuing of a "corrected" 96K upsampled version would be making the original version available at a discount.

Make no mistake about it - a 96K soundtrack that was originally captured digitally at 96K is well worth having, but a soundtrack created at 48K (the current video standard) or via analog tape and then upsampled has no more information in it than the original.

I'm a big fan of 96K sampling, when that's the sampling rate when the sound is originally captured - as is done by AIX Records in California - but upsampling audio does nothing but give you the same signal in a bigger container. I believe this fits the description "Old wine in new bottles."

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Greetings,

I received this announcement yesterday regarding The Right Stuff 30th anniversary edition on Blu-ray:

Warner Bros. Home Entertainment has become aware of and confirmed that The Right Stuff 30th Anniversary Blu-ray Book released on Nov. 5, 2013 went to market without the 96K upsampling feature enabled. Steps are being taken to resolve the issue at the current time.


I will update this thread with any new information going forward.


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No news? It's been about 4 weeks.
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No news? It's been about 4 weeks.

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Nothing as of yet. Sorry....


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^ I emailed both Warner and Dolby 4 weeks ago concerning the TrueHD 96k Up-sampling issue, and have yet to receive any response from either. Today, I called the phone number that had been used for previously for Warner's disc replacements. They claimed this was the first call they had received concerning this title, and after being transferred twice, I was invited leave a voicemail with my name, number and disc title. My call is supposed to be returned within 48 hours.
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Picked this up yesterday at Best Buy for $19.99. Played on my Oppo BDP-83 bitstream to my Denon 988, which correctly displayed 96K.
Awesome movie, great transfer, outstanding audio for it's age. Movie did win an Oscar for sound and this disc presents it well. Lfe is not up today's standards, but still darn good.
As someone posted earlier, the Glen lift off is a tad disappointing in the low-end department. For anyone who has the IMAX Hubble blu ray, that is the standard for how a NASA launch should sound.
My house and family are still recovering from that liftoff!

Anyone know anything about this?

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^ I emailed both Warner and Dolby 4 weeks ago concerning the TrueHD 96k Up-sampling issue, and have yet to receive any response from either. Today, I called the phone number that had been used for previously for Warner's disc replacements. They claimed this was the first call they had received concerning this title, and after being transferred twice, I was invited leave a voicemail with my name, number and disc title. My call is supposed to be returned within 48 hours.

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I also emailed Warner and received a response back just today requesting my address so that they could send me a replacement disc. I will check back in when the disc arrives and I can confirm 96k.

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I also emailed Warner and received a response back just today requesting my address so that they could send me a replacement disc. I will check back in when the disc arrives and I can confirm 96k.

My replacement disc has arrived and I can confirm 96k.
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I also emailed Warner Brothers and got a quick response back confirming that a disc would be sent to me.
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Could one of you post the email address? If it's in this thread I missed it. Sorry.
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http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/main/help/customer_service.jsp

http://www.warnerbros.com/help/customer-service.html

I wrote to the bottom link and saw no response to the "submit" button so I also wrote to the top link.
I received a reply within 10 minutes from Sherri Bogard at Warnerbros.com.
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Thank you!
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http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/main/help/customer_service.jsp

http://www.warnerbros.com/help/customer-service.html

I wrote to the bottom link and saw no response to the "submit" button so I also wrote to the top link.
I received a reply within 10 minutes from Sherri Bogard at Warnerbros.com.

That is who emailed me as well.

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Hello all,

I received my replacement disc in the mail today along wit this.

RightStuff.pdf 170k .pdf file

Signed in ink even. Yes I watched "A Christmas Story" yesterday. tongue.gif

Confirmed 96kHz via bitstream on both my Oppo and Pioneer.
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Very glad to see that WB is fixing their mistake. This has been on my wish list for a very long time.

Now, the all-important question for those of us who have yet to buy this title: will Warner reissue it to retail stores, and how will consumers know the difference between the 48k and 96k versions based on the packaging?
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Hello all,

I received my replacement disc in the mail today along wit this.

RightStuff.pdf 170k .pdf file

Signed in ink even. Yes I watched "A Christmas Story" yesterday. tongue.gif

Confirmed 96kHz via bitstream on both my Oppo and Pioneer.

Same here. Got the letter as well. The disc's visual appearance is exactly the same as the 48k disc down to the 200050240 disc number on the face edge. (Gonna have to mark the 48k version as such on the disc face.)
But it says 96k when movie plays.
I have not done any AB testing but the Glenn liftoff seemed to have good bottom end.
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will amazon sell the replacement disc like the sony remastered disc for the fifth element? My dad has that disc on bluray.
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I'm wanting to purchase this film on blu-ray too, but don't want to order if a fixed version is about to be released... or could it be that the same version will continue to be sold and you can only get the fix by writing in to WB for a replacement disc?

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I just watched a copy I bought from Amazon on 12/29, and it has the 96KHz audio. It sounds fine, but that has nothing to do with 96K sampling. It was just well mastered.
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