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Old 11-07-2012, 06:24 PM - Thread Starter
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The Review at a Glance: (max score: 5 )

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Studio and Year: Metheny Group Productions - 2012
MPAA Rating: Unrated
Feature running time: 171 minutes
Genre: Music

Disc Format: BD-50
Encoding: MVC 3D/ AVC 2D
Video Aspect: 1.78:1
Resolution: 1080p/24

Audio Format(s): LPCM 2.0, Dolby TrueHD 7.1
Subtitles: n/a
Starring: Pat Metheny
Directed by: Pierre & Francious Lamoureux
Written by: Pat Metheny
Music by: Pat Metheny
Region Code: Free

Blu-ray Disc release Date: October 9, 2012

"The Orchestrion Project"

Film Synopsis:

"The Orchestrion Project” was filmed at the former St Elias Church in Greenpoint, Brooklyn in November 2010. It features Pat Metheny on guitar performing with the Orchestrion, a vast collection of mechanical instruments that surround Pat Metheny in this atmospheric setting. The focus of the performance is the “Orchestrion Suite”, a work written specifically for this combination and debuted on Pat Metheny’s “Orchestrion” album released earlier in 2010. Added to this are other tracks from across Metheny’s prolific career going right back to “Unity Village” from his debut solo album “Bright Size Life” in 1976 and including other tracks from the seventies, eighties and nineties. This is a unique collaboration between a master guitarist and the pinnacle of mechanical music.

My Take:

Its all about the hair, Man, and Pat Metheny sure has him some some memorable hair. It's sort of like a mix between "The Donald" and Einstein. The funny thing is, he gets away with it because he is just so damn good. With his The Orchestrion Project, he proves to be above and beyond his already widely heralded status as an amazing musician, and just blew me away. Metheny has been toying with this idea of a sort-of A.I., if you will, electronic orchestra, designed of pneumatics, solenoids, computers as well as good old fashioned acoustical instrumentation. With the help of many innovative inventors, Metheny brought his fantasy to life, and orchestrated this suite of musical acrobatic Jazz, utilizing this band he created as his back-up, his lead to trade off with, his rhythm section....really, it was just pure brilliance. However (you knew that was coming didn't ya?), I did find it all a wee bit tedious, as it seemed to go on and on and on. Maybe it's my pop sensibilities, but I was a wee bit bored at times. I also found it weird listening to the too perfect precision of the quantized metronome of electronically triggered rhythms and instruments and how that mingled with his free-flowing jammy guitar. Bottom line is if his music, Jazzy/Bluesy instrumental music and off the wall experimental music is far from your cup o' tea, you might get 15 minutes in, be marveled at what he has accomplished, then go on to something else.

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AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100 / EXCELLENT = 83-91 / GOOD = 74-82 / AVERAGE = 65-73 / BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**

Audio: 80

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2D Video: 82

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3D Presentation: 74

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The Orchestrion Project comes to Blu-ray Disc from Eagle Rock Entertainment featuring 1080p MVC encoded 3D video that has an average bitrate of 10.4 Mbps and Dolby TrueHD 7.1 sound that has an average bitrate of 8.2 Mbps

The Orchestrion Project should have looked and sounded better. It's not that it's terrible, it's just that what Metheny was doing is so inventive, I wished the A/V quality matched it. 3D-wise this was a waste, as other than the titles coming off the screen, it was all about depth inward, and even that was lacking. Really, when the neck of a guitar is pointed at you in 3D, it should come right at you and almost poke you in the nose. It didn't. I found myself much more interested in seeing the 2D as I found this room of never-ending instruments just jumbled together in 3D. The over-all look was a bit soft and that carried over from the 3D presentation to the 2D, however, I did find myself noticing a fair amount more of the finer details being resolved in the 2D close-ups. Don't get me wrong, the Dolby TrueHD track was good, I just felt that the sound mixer could have milked more space and dynamics out of what I was hearing. Front and center, Metheny's guitar sounded lush and crisp, with every inflection, ghost note and string-slide coming across. It was the smörgåsbord of other instruments that I longed to be a bit more clear, and that the over-all sound stage would be more dynamic and have bit more depth to it.

NOTE: The disc played in 3D and I looked in the menu for how to play it in 2D, but the option was not there. I have a non-3D BD player as well, and when put in that it defaulted to 2D.


1. Unity Village
2. Orchestrion
3. Entry Point
4. Expansion
5. Soul Search
6. Spirit of the Air
7. Sueño con Mexíco
8. Improvisation #2
9. Stranger in Town
10. Improvisation #1
11. 80/81
12. Broadway Blues
13. Tell Her You Saw Me
14. Antonia

Bonus Features:

  • (HD)Making of the Orchestrion Project

  • (HD) Interview with Pat Metheny

  • (HD) EPK

  • (HD) Studio Sessions

Final Thoughts:

Pat Metheny's The Orchestrion Project is unique, interesting and like nothing you have yet to see. Fans will be delighted to have this in their collection, as this is truly a musical triumph. Whether it is your cup o' tea is a completely different story, and we know how snobbish music fans can be to "other" genres, hence my recommendation to fans only. Really open-minded folk will definitely get something out if Metheny's genius, I know I did. The A/V is HD worthy, the 3D pretty much a waste but I still suggest a buy to fans, and a rental to all else.


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Bummer! The Way Up is a fantastic sounding disc....wonder what happened here?

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Bummer! The Way Up is a fantastic sounding disc....wonder what happened here?

It sounds good. I feel it could have went the extra mile, but I think you will still be pleased.
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Not sure I'd be interested in buying this... would like to have a look at it, though; you do make it sound interesting!

Anyway, have you checked out Joe Satriani - Satchurated: Live In Montreal and/or Scorpions - Live In 3D and/or Iron Maiden - En Vivo! Blu-ray? I'm more of a rocker and would appreciate your opinion should you have one... cool.gif

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There is a wonderful review by rdclark over in the Blu-ray Concert DVD forum. It is on page 19 and is post 554. Maybe that might help. I bought it, but haven't watched it pending my purchase of the OPPO BD 103.
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There is no sound problem with this disc on my system. It's awesome. I've been a PM fan for a long time and this is just off the charts for me. I really like the 3D too because it isn't "movie-like" overdone. It's somewhat subtle and in this video with the fantastic music composition it doesn't distract from the best parts. The music and the surround sound production. My newest demo disc.
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Its Good, but nothing replaces those guys. I remember seeing Acuna do a clinic in he has such command with his latin/jazz mix.
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Might have to pick up a copy of this. Long time fan. My first CD in 1983 was Pat Metheny's "Offramp". Still have my first CD player. I need to pull it out and see if it still works.
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