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9/9/2008
Didn't do much but organize the room, order a bunch of parts and wires.

I did wire up the office area can lights, I will cut them in next week.


1 hour of work... hmm.. beer break!

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9/10/2008

Picked up some more parts I had made from Triple J Ductworkin Waterford. While I was there, they had remembered what I was working on and recommended a different approach than what I was planning.

Instead of custom building a 4x10 register with an extra long lip to stick down below the hat channel, they suggested a simple 90 degree 6" elbow and these 6" grills. I figured I would give it a shot.

Here is what the Easy Air Grille looks like:

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Today my neighbor Mark and I modified 2 ducts with the custom made de-couplers and a 90 degree elbow. The coupler also allows for movement up and down, so no need to trim any more metal after drywall is up, I would just have to push it up.

Here is a pic that shows the end result.


You can see the black fabric/canvas on the inside...

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YEAH! Monoprice shipment arrived, so I stretched all the cables out and let them relax for a few hours, then bundled them all up and routed them from the projector to the server rack.

I installed the following:
1 - Component bundle
2 - CAT 6 cables
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I installed all of them outside of the pipe, in order to preserve that space for any replacement needs in the future.






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9/13/2008

FINALLY!!! After waiting for shipments, the hat channel is completed! Mark helped getting them all setup, then he aggrivated his back, so I let him puss out and finished screwing them all up.


I also finished out all of the insulation I had... not sure how I underestimated, but all of the insulation I bought for BOTH rooms was used on this one room



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awesome thread and nice build so far
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9/18/2008

This part of the build sucks... so many piddley little things to do and so much 2nd guessing going on in my head!!

Okay enough whining, I was starting to sound like my wife on payday..

Today I blackmailed my neighbor Mark to come over and give me a hand with splicing in all the lights in the office area since I had wired them all, mounted boxes, and stapled everything down.

Everything went like clockwork and did not take much time at all.

This is the storage area lighting pre-spliced.


This is after everything was completed with mismatching lightbulbs.. I am missing a flood bulb.. I bet $5 the wife tried to screw it into the refrigerator.

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9/20/2008

Today was the final itchy-scratchy day!!!

We mounted LEDs in all 3 hidden storage units by drilling 5mm holes, hotglued the LEDs in place, stapled wires to the back of the box to prevent vibrations, then closed up the walls with insulation.


Insulation was completed in the office area, even though I could care less, all I want is my HT. I am in the zone, it is all I think about at night... I am becoming an addict.


Finalized up all insulation in the theater room, every nook and cranny is jammed with lovely glass strands of goodness. The itch residue is not that bad, and if you drink enough afterwards, you pass out before you scratch through the first layer of skin.

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Today was more of a play-day in the theater... minor progress was made thanks to a subwoofer

First, we finalized one last switch in the Insteon Bank, then secured all of the wiring.


Then we used a small shopvac to suck string through all of the Carlon pipe throughout the rooms. Tip: Tie a small piece of plastic to the string to help it get sucked through.


Then the rest of the evening was spent screwing around with my HSU VTF-3 subwoofer. I had to crank it up for a bit to try and look for any vibrations. I got yelled at a few times, but it had to be done.


I was kind of disappointed that I did not get the punch I wanted out of the sub, but I will reserve all bitching about having to buy 2-3 more subs until AFTER drywall is done.

I wish I had a way to measure the performance of the room, or at least someone close that had the setup to swoop in and take a snapshot before and after drywall, maybe another snapshot after DD/GG.

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Random question...



If I am only planning on doing 2 layers on the ceiling, 1 on the walls... should I just do both ceiling layers, or do as this picture shows.... ceiling, wall, then ceiling.

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You got a couple of things working against you on getting that subwoofer to perform.

1st all the exposed insulation is working as dampning material. I noticed this effect when I had done son's B-day party with his friends in the presheet rock room, although covered with plastic. 2nd your directly on the concrete which I believe would be another factor. I'm sure it will perform much better in it's final position. I have another temp setup right now and my subwoofer on a sand filled stage has been blowing me away.

As far as the sheetrock goes, I would do the 2 ceiling layers first if you are only doing 1 layer on the walls. You want the walls to support the ceiling at the edges.
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I would apply drywall as diagram shows:

Ceiling layer #1
Wall layer #1
Ceiling layer #2

I would not bother with the backer rod and 1/4" gap. Seal that up tight.

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Their are reasons he has a soundproofing co.. so I suppose you better follow Ted's advice
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Their are reasons he has a soundproofing co.. so I suppose you better follow Ted's advice

He's also tight with the Russian mafia, so I'd do as he says
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He's also tight with the Russian mafia, so I'd do as he says

LOL!!

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LOL!!

Cat's out of the bag now, so you can probably tell them your real name is Theodore Absolut Smirnov!
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Thanks for the validation that it will suck until drywall is up, I figured as much, but it has been so amazing.. the closer I get to drywall, the bigger the bitch I have become. Stressing over the smallest of details, it is baffling to me!

I cannot wait for phase 2 where I build a wall to wall screen with the speakers behind it, I just want to get phase 1 done so I can enjoy it and stop paying 65$ a month in storage fees!

Regarding the drywall, thanks for the advice, by doing ceiling/wall/ceiling, that means I will have to trim off 5/8" on the last layer to get them all to line up in the middle of the hat channel. This should not be a big deal.

The thing that sucks is I am going to have to have a butt seam since I cannot get 12' 5/8 down there!!

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Love the thread!

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I quickly slipped it into my trusty PS3, and started playing.


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Looking great!!
I can't wait to see the future progress!!

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Ya know, Jackson is less than an hour from here... how is your back?

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Ya know, Jackson is less than an hour from here... how is your back?

Oh wow!
I didn't even notice you are from MI!
Have you been to any past HEMI meets?
I might be able to help you at some point in the very near future.
Let me check my schedule.

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Never been to HEMI before, would be great to attend after I get drywall up

Right now, just researching concrete sealing and wondering if I should seal the concrete floor before I put pad and carpet down.

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Never been to HEMI before, would be great to attend after I get drywall up

Right now, just researching concrete sealing and wondering if I should seal the concrete floor before I put pad and carpet down.

I never sealed my concrete. I don't believe it is necessary.

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9/11/2008

YEAH! Monoprice shipment arrived, so I stretched all the cables out and let them relax for a few hours, then bundled them all up and routed them from the projector to the server rack.

I installed the following:
1 - Component bundle
2 - CAT 6 cables
2 - HDMI cables

I installed all of them outside of the pipe, in order to preserve that space for any replacement needs in the future.

Why 2 Cat 6?
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I've sealed concrete only if the vapor barrier was not installed to help keep moisture down. You need to test the concrete to see if you need to seal it. Test by duct taping a black garbage bag to the floor, let it sit for a couple of days then remove. If there is any moisture then your vapor barrier in your slab was not installed. We used to do this before doing a glue down hardwood floor on a slab. Just an FYI.
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Today was more of a play-day in the theater... minor progress was made thanks to a subwoofer

First, we finalized one last switch in the Insteon Bank, then secured all of the wiring.


Then we used a small shopvac to suck string through all of the Carlon pipe throughout the rooms. Tip: Tie a small piece of plastic to the string to help it get sucked through.


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I was kind of disappointed that I did not get the punch I wanted out of the sub, but I will reserve all bitching about having to buy 2-3 more subs until AFTER drywall is done.

I wish I had a way to measure the performance of the room, or at least someone close that had the setup to swoop in and take a snapshot before and after drywall, maybe another snapshot after DD/GG.

Could you please explain in more detail what switches these are and what they operate?

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Why 2 Cat 6?

Because my cheapass got a killer deal on 2000 feet of Cat6, so I figured I would run it everywhere.

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Could you please explain in more detail what switches these are and what they operate?


Sure: This is my first experience into Insteon controllers. So from the left, there is the Insteon switch that comes with the starter kit, this allows you to create scenes, diff dimming speeds, etc. The on that is in there controls the front row of lights and the other scenes. If I press "A", then all the theater lights ramp on slowly.

Switch 2 is an Insteon switch that controls the mid 4 6" cans.

Switch 3 is an insteon switch that controls the back row of 6" cans.

The far right switch is a 3 way switch ($7 from Lowes) that controls the existing light in the stairwell.

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I've sealed concrete only if the vapor barrier was not installed to help keep moisture down. You need to test the concrete to see if you need to seal it. Test by duct taping a black garbage bag to the floor, let it sit for a couple of days then remove. If there is any moisture then your vapor barrier in your slab was not installed. We used to do this before doing a glue down hardwood floor on a slab. Just an FYI.

Awesome tip, I will do that tonight!

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