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Well it's finally time to start the build thread (now that it's finished!).

Rives level 3 room, optimized for 2 channel, with 6.x theatre setup.

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2 channel:
ATC Anniversary 100 Active in rosewood. Pair 29 out of 30.
ATC SCA2 preamp with phono board
Esoteric P70/D70 cd transport and dac
Accuphase DG-28 digital eq
Alesis Masterlink ML-9600 cd burner
All kinds of cables - Transparent, DH Labs, PS Audio....
Music Hall MMF-9.1 turntable with Soundsmith Voice acrylic phono cartridge
Sony DVPs9000es dvd player used as a 2 channel sacd player

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Anthem D2 processor
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Sony PS3
Sony VPL-VW60 "Black Pearl" projector
Prismasonic Fe-1500r anamorphic lens
Screen Research 100 inch wide motorized 2:35 AT screen with black backing
ATC C6 active centre channel
ATC 50 active rears
older ATC C6 as centre rear
JL Audio Fathom F113 subs - 4 of them
Equitech 7.5Q provides 4-20amp circuits for all equipment
Cables by a bunch of different manufacturers including Blue Jeans Cable

I'll post the latest pics I have at the beginning and update as I go along...

View of the front of the room:







A look at the rear of the room:


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Well it's finally time to start the build thread (now that it's finished!).

Rives level 3 room, optimized for 2 channel, with 6.x theatre setup.

Equipment list will be updated.

I'll post the latest pic I have at the beginning and update as I go along...

View of the front of the room:




Simply an awesome setup Asher. Great audio and video in an Rives engineered room . Doesn't get any better than that.

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Well thank you very much. Please check back periodically as I add pictures. Just been busy playing around with the video and it's awesome. I finally labelled the cables so I know which cable goes to which speaker at the back of the spaghetti jungle so I'll plug them all in tomorrow and hopefully get a basic calibration going.

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Hey Asher,

what sort of screen material is that?
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It's audio transparent. Clearpix 2 by Screen Research. Has the black backing behind it to reduce light reflection from the back.
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Nice! How big is the screen? Width & heigth?
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Well its about bloody time

Looks great, lets see more pics!

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Nice! How big is the screen? Width & heigth?

It's a 100 inch wide 2:35 screen which is about 42 inches tall. I didn't go with a larger screen because my front row will be about 10 to 11 feet from the screen. I decided to go cih because a 100 inch wide 16:9 screen was just too big and since I have a low ceiling (7'10" finished) I figured this was the best fit. The reason the screen is out from the wall is because of the radial diffusor in the front. This room is primarily for 2-channel so it got priority even though it would have been easier, and cheaper, to put a fixed screen on the front wall if it had been flat.

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Well its about bloody time

Looks great, lets see more pics!

Craig, thanks for looking in. I was going to post in your thread to let you know that I've finally started this - I was waiting till I had a few more pictures up here, now the pressure is on! As you know, your thread had a big influence on me. We both have similar room height limitations, ducts had to be moved, and we're Canucks! Of course, you're a skilled one and did a lot of the work yourself, and I just bent over and asked the contractor to at least leave me a few dollars for food. The sconces were copied from your room.

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and I just bent over and asked the contractor to at least leave me a few dollars for food.

Nice.

So, now that she's up and running, what does she sound like!!

 

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Every Rives designed room looks the same to me. The big curved panel in the front flanked by triangular bass traps, staggered v-shaped shelves in the back, coffered sectional ceilings, etc. I'm sure they sound good but it sure looks like a cookie cutter approach to me. Has anybody nixed the big curved panel in front and what have they suggested instead?
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probably because it's a good basic design that works. You can't exactly go with bass traps in the middle, coffered walls and diffusors on the floor
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Every Rives designed room looks the same to me. The big curved panel in the front flanked by triangular bass traps, staggered v-shaped shelves in the back, coffered sectional ceilings, etc. I'm sure they sound good but it sure looks like a cookie cutter approach to me. Has anybody nixed the big curved panel in front and what have they suggested instead?

If you take a closer look, there is no coffered sectional ceiling. Cookie cutter? lol. The guy comes out to the actual room and designs the details specifically for the room so it's definitely a one-off cookie, but the cosmetics are the same. For example, the size of the diffusor on the front is different depending on the size of the room. We actually were considering not using the radial diffusor in the front but since I didn't want to bury my large centre channel in the wall we stuck with it. This was a consensus decision, the radial diffusor and every other cosmetic point was decided by me, Rives, and my contractor. Note the side diffusors as well - I'll add the pictures soon. Not all of the rooms have these in this location either. Also, I didn't have to have the shelving at the back, I wanted it...

Like Jesse says, where else would you put the front corner bass traps other than in the front corners? One of my soffits is a huge bass trap - you'll see the construction later if you check back.

Someone in another thread made the same comment. There's definitely a family resemblance but below the surface there are a lot of differences. Hey, all women have 2 boobs, a butt, and legs. Doesn't make them all the same does it?

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Here's an early pic of the side diffusors:


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Nice.

So, now that she's up and running, what does she sound like!!

Sounding pretty good, not perfect, but pretty good. I'm just fighting some ground loop noise with the subs right now. Gotta assemble the chairs too - there was a screwup with the order so I had to send the arms back to have them modified. Everything's here now though. Movie posters have been hung, more pics later....

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Looks like a true audiophile room that has had a screen added to it. I like the attention to the accoustics.

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Thanks very much. I like your lava lounge too. Are those Paradigm speakers? There's a nice martini bar in Toronto called Lava Lounge. I've had my share of nice martinis there.

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I just posted my first impressions of the F113 subs in my new room in the Fathom F113 thread if any of you fellow bassheads are interested. Post number 3795

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Equipment list updated in first post.

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Wow. That looks great. Judging by the equipment list I think it's safe to say that it looks and sounds great also. Your Esoteric setup is very serious. I have the DV50s and like it very much, but what you have is truly SOTA. A big congrats for creating such a great HT/2ch setup.

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Thanks Mike. As you know, Esoteric is great stuff. Backbreaking to move around, but great sound. I've got better pics to post as soon as I get time so check back periodically if you like.

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I've added a couple more pictures to the first post, lots more coming.

BTW, room is roughly 17ft wide x 24ft deep. Ceiling height is only 7ft10in finished. The riser platform is about 8 inches tall. I mounted the projector above the rear seats so that hopefully no-one will bonk their noggin on it.

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I regret not having taken more pictures of the basement before the build-out began. It actually started off as a finished basement, but it was open-concept for a big portion of it. At night the sound would travel throughout the house even at low volume. At high volume the ducts and ceiling would rattle like crazy. Whoever finished the basement cheaped out a bit it seems. When I had the guys tear down the previous ceiling it took them a lot less time than expected (unfortunately that didn't translate into less $$$$).

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Yea. Even my Esoteric is 47lbs. Man, all you people with nice size rooms really make me sick. I am sure that those ATC's sound great. Also, your video looks very nice as well. The 4 f113's I am sure are doing a fine job in there. I my self and quite happy with a single SubMersive1 in my room. I guess a small room does have some advantages . But again, you really did a great job on the room and equipment.

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Mike, I hear that the submersive is a really good sub. If I ever move and build another room I'll consider getting Mark Seaton to do a custom sub setup.

Here's a pic of the 2-channel gear - just spent a little back-breaking time putting the components in:



Here's a pic of the brute of a rear centre speaker. Kinda ugly in a way, but I like it!





I found the speaker grille for it and my wife prefers it this way. It is a little damaged but that may be fixable:


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I like that room . You seem to have really planed it out well. The sub is great. It just takes control of my room and lets it know who is boss. I just put in a solid wood door with some acoustical material and that made a big difference. It is much more potent in the room now at the previous level I used to like to listen to. The guy who did the door also just put a sweep on the bottom of the door. But I am sure that this room sounds awesome with those speakers and those subs+the electronics you have.
P.S I can honestly say that if you choose to go with one of Marks designs at some time, either what he has available or something totally unique, you will not be disappointed.

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Thanks Mike. I had my door built out of 2 "slabs" with green glue in between. I have Zero International sound seals and an acoustic door threshold at the bottom. I haven't put the "plunger" mechanism on it because it seems like there is a weak link in the sound proofing anyway. I'll post door pictures when I get home.

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Coming from a standard door, I am happy. I did not know about Green Glue at the time. My installer has a studio in his basement and he recommended this:
I think I got it 3in thick
http://www.celotex.co.uk/
http://www.knightcelotex.com/
And he got a door from these guys
http://www.graeberlumber.com/home.html
It worked out as I hoped.
Like I said, for me, just doing that made a big difference. 1-3db increase in overall output.

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Awesome room!

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Finally, more pictures! It looks fantastic. The woodwork is beautiful and that rear center is a beast!

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