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post #1 of 25 Old 10-24-2008, 08:37 AM - Thread Starter
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Hey, guys.

Just bought my first house. It came with an unfinished basement, divided lengthwise by a block wall.

The half without the utilties is about 13 feet by 40 feet.

Walls are block, floor concrete.


Ingredients:
Mitsubishi HC-1500 (DLP, 720p)
Wilsonart DesignerWhite, 5' x 10' in Matte 60

Xbox 360 w/ HD-DVD
Onkyo 605

Mains: JBL S38 (v2)
Rears: JBL S38 (v1)
Center: JBL N-series

Monoprice cabling

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I had to "adjust" some cabinetry.
And a closet.




Consolidated cabinetry and closet:

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Here's the plan.



I guess I need myself a wall! That's me on the floor.





I'm fortunate to have a great deal of good help. It's more fun when everyone comes over to pitch in.









I went out and picked up 20 sheets of 'Quiet Brace' board.

** BE ADVISED **

I found out that the Quiet Brace is flammable.

Looking back, I really should've insulted above the ceiling.
I'm going to tear it down and re-do.

The room has a bad echo due to the cement floor, block walls, and uninsulated drywall ceiling (mounted to floor-joists holding an uncarpeted hardwood floor above)



I'll tack that against my screen-wall to deaden it up a bit, and may do the lower 4' of the block walls with it as well after some listening tests (and after the carpet goes in.)



As a bonus, it's already black.

I'd like to add that stippling a ceiling is a very messy, crappy job for a first-timer.





I am toying with the idea of building the sub into the front wall (from the back) -- that way I've got tons of room for the box without affecting the aesthetic of the main room.
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13 feet is a decent width, and 40 feet gives you more than plenty of room to work with. You could go wider the other way, but I would think a 13 foot depth would only work for you if you're sticking with a single row of seating. Given any thought to a size yet?
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Nevermind. you posted your last comments at the same time I did
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What are you going to do with that area in front of the theater? If the wall is 40 feet long, that leaves you an area of 13X18 up there.
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Well, now we're getting somewhere. The I Killz-ed the walls, and the carpet pad is in.



My carpet-installed buddy channeled the pad, so you can't feel the wires under the carpet. Neat trick, IMO.

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Thanks for the comments so quickly!

The room beyond the theatre wall is a workshop for me, and will also house the eventual subwoofer upgrade, which I'd like to fire into the room from behind (through) the screen wall.

The room still has a lot of challenges, and being my first (and a budget build, at that) I know it'll take a lot of learning and time to get it up to snuff.


The outside wall has been piered, and isn't exactly .. straight.

I want to frame it in, but due to the complexity of working around the piers, and also that I'd like to keep an eye on the wall (new purchase, gotta watch that foundation a bit), it'll remain exposed for version 1.



I know the block walls will create serious reflections. I've picked up some supplies for acoustic treatments, and downloaded the First Reflections calculator - will grab that screenshot when I get home.

Key here is to find the sweet spot somewhere beneath the law of diminishing returns.

It's pretty intimidating to post my little build here, wedged in between so much /very/ nice equipment and real estate avs members have. Your support is appreciated, and your project inspiring
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I painted it brown.. Which was horrible.



So we tried Volcanic Ash - a [delicious] deep slate/blue color.



Notice the WAF on the wall.

And so, I couldn't resist. Now the screen and projector are up.

Having a little trouble getting the projector level, so that'll take some tinkering. I also feel that it hangs a little low.



But we've got picture.

Big picture.

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I've got the same projector and receiver. How do you like those polks paired with that onkyo? Frys has/had em on sale and almost bit on a few.
Looks Good!
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I've got the same projector and receiver. How do you like those polks paired with that onkyo? Frys has/had em on sale and almost bit on a few.
Looks Good!


I got mine from Frys as well. I wish that I had gotten the R50 all around instead of getting the R300 for the rear channels.

Otherwise, I think they're decent. I don't have much to compare them to, but they're a vast improvement over the Onkyo HTIBs, and the (dated) Pioneer floorstanders I have.

* Update: After working with the Polks for awhile, I find them horribly fatiguing in the block room, and also in the glass sunroom where they live now. Running the JBLs for awhile.
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First reflection points:



Another view, driver space only

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Rolled out the carpet to loosen it up:



RXL-40 and a much better representation of the Volcanic Ash color:



Random shot of our akita/chow mutt, this glass room is where the Polks live now.



Config for first movie, Transformers.. which led to 300.




Both good. Until my 360 RedRinged. That sucked.
It's functional again after some .. persuasion. But it's on it's way out.

Next project is to wrap and hang the RXL, box the insulation up, and do some [much needed] cable management.

* I've since moved the Roxul around a bit, and adjusted the center channel stand.
* U-verse showed up and wired us in. Got the cables under control, but still haven't wrapped the Roxul.
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Rolled out the carpet to loosen it up:



FIL + Carpet and steps:



RXL-40 and a much better representation of the Volcanic Ash color:



Random shot of our akita/chow mutt, "his" garden in the background:



Config for first movie, Transformers.. which led to 300.




Both good. Until my 360 RedRinged. That sucked.
It's functional again after some .. persuasion. But it's on it's way out.

Next project is to wrap and hang the RXL, box the insulation up, and do some [much needed] cable management.

* I've since moved the Roxul around a bit, and adjusted the center channel stand.
* U-verse showed up and wired us in. Got the cables under control, but still haven't wrapped the Roxul.


I hear ya on the 360. I've had to send mine in 3 times so far for the same problem. Seems to be about every 9 months
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I hear ya on the 360. I've had to send mine in 3 times so far for the same problem. Seems to be about every 9 months

Thanks for the reply. I haven't sent mine in before yet, and I suppose I've had it for just over a year. It's been behaving for a week and some since the RROD, so I've got my fingers crossed. Will they service it if it's not redringing when I send it?

I keep meaning to check your thread from home - the image hosts are blocked from here except for imageshack. From the few pictures that are attachments, it looks like you've really done it I'm already "2.0ing" in my head, and this one isn't even finished. It's functional though, and that's what counts for now
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Very nice build you have going, I don't know why I didn't see it before.

Question for you: where'd you get that quiet board? I'm looking for something to put behind my screen.

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Very nice build you have going, I don't know why I didn't see it before.

Question for you: where'd you get that quiet board? I'm looking for something to put behind my screen.

Home Depot - it was like three bucks a sheet. It's as thick as drywall, and appears to be pressed cardboard coated in a tar-like seal.

I think it's supposed to be used outside the house, like under Tyvek or something. If nothing else, it was a good black substrate, and did well mass-loading the wall inexpensively.
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Sorry the pics in my build thread aren't coming up for ya at work. Not sure about that one, unless you just can't see stuff hosted on Flickr??

Nice idea with the quiet board. I'm wondering if that might be a good idea to apply to my front wall directly behind my subwoofer location(s). The sub(s) port to the rear, which is right into my wall.
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Didn't want to make a mess in your thread, so I'll just post here.

Wow! It's really fantastic. I especially like the level of texture - it's in everything from the paint to the fixtures.

Bravo, Jason
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Feel free to mess away in the thead. I like the posts

Thanks for the comments. I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel.
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NICE build! I always appreciate the coming from nothing to something especially since it comes with pictures!

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It looks great! Keep us updated with your progress! Love to see projects from the beginning to get ideas!
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looks fun.
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ahhh nice first set up, I was wondering who sent that invite.
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Nice idea with the quiet board. I'm wondering if that might be a good idea to apply to my front wall directly behind my subwoofer location(s). The sub(s) port to the rear, which is right into my wall.


** BE ADVISED **

Just noticed that the QuietBoard is flammable. Not explosive, mind you - but certainly not safe.
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lookin good. any updates ?

here is that pic. please, keep it to yourself. i put it here to hid it from the others, for now, maybe for ever.

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