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Sure. There is a NRC table on the website that shows the 4" wedges as basically equal to the OC703 and acoustic cotton, but I chose the 3" with a slightly lower NRC because of the various doors I may need to access.

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That studio foam should help significantly. I have yet to compare but musiciansfriend.com also sells foam in different packages, their guitars are significantly less than shops but I am not sure about the studiofoam.

It is crazy that the focus wasn't the equipment, perhaps I am just short sighted in that respect. This may seem like a lot to ask, but when you finish or are close to finishing, could you tabulate your expenses on your build? IMHO value is more important than being the most expensive.


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My primary goals were all directed toward sound isolation and HT room construction techniques, with the view that then current equipment would be more affordable or at least the latest technology would be available when I was ready to buy. I correctly estimated that it would take a long time (I was wrong on just how long – guessing 6 months) to complete construction, so there was no need to buy gear early only to leave it in boxes for months. One piece of gear you want to at least narrow the range of selections on earlier in the build is the projector. Depending on where you plan to mount it and the screen size, only some pjs will fit.

I don't have project totals but if you want a general reference for expenses, Chinadog has an estimate and actual table in his thread.

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Progress looks great kj and even better than you have some helping hands. Smart move on waiting for the build to be nearly complete before buying the gear. Undoubtedly, you will get more bang for your buck by being patient!
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Thanks queen. My family has been great about being interested and involved in the many aspects of the build. We've enjoyed nearly every task - except hanging that darn drywall.

It is nice to see lower prices on recently released gear as newer models start to arrive. I do have one issue though. I'd planned for the Panasonic AE3000 because of its memory zoom function for scope content. I recently learned that if the Panny is mounted above the top of the screen, it has to be vertically shifted manually. My mounting location is in the soffit which is about 10" above the top of the screen. Not a deal breaker as alternative mounting solutions exist, but my location is partially enclosed at the bottom of the soffit.

Luckily, its has taken me so long to get to the point of choosing a pj that CEDIA '09 is just a couple of weeks away. I'm anticipating/hoping/pleading for some improvements to the panny's vertical shift capabilities and or other manufacturers stepping into the memory zoom market at or near the panny's price point. I've been checking the pj threads, but there haven't been any announcements/leaks as of yet. Heard any rumors?

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The price has recently gone up on the Panny 3000 as well, ouch.

Are you planning on putting the projector on ceiling mount upside down? You mentioned the bottom part of the soffit is closed, can you perhaps make it a shelf with a projector port?
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What is going on with the panny price move? Its up like 8% from just a little while ago. Do they already know competitors are coming to market at higher price points? Is there no new competition coming? Very odd?

I initially planned to mount the pj to the ceiling but shelf mounting is an alternative. I haven't measured yet to determine what adjustments I'd need to make. Should probably get on that, huh?

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It is nice to see lower prices on recently released gear as newer models start to arrive. I do have one issue though. I'd planned for the Panasonic AE3000 because of its memory zoom function for scope content. I recently learned that if the Panny is mounted above the top of the screen, it has to be vertically shifted manually. My mounting location is in the soffit which is about 10" above the top of the screen. Not a deal breaker as alternative mounting solutions exist, but my location is partially enclosed at the bottom of the soffit.

I have my AE3000 mounted in the soffit, which is located above the top of the screen. It took some adjustment, but it works without manual adjustment going from scope to 16:9. You just have to use the aspect button to change from 16:9 (for the scope image) to S16:9 (for the 16:9 image) rather than the lens memory button. I haven't had a chance to check it out much, but it seems to work fine.

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Very interesting. How far above the screen would you estimate your panny is mounted? Would you provide a bit more detail on what you mean when you say it "took some adjustment"? What is S16:9? I'll reread the AE3000 thread to see if there is more detail there as well.

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Very interesting. How far above the screen would you estimate your panny is mounted? Would you provide a bit more detail on what you mean when you say it "took some adjustment"? What is S16:9? I'll reread the AE3000 thread to see if there is more detail there as well.

Thanks CJ.

The bottom of the projector is approximately 16 inches above the top of the screen. As far as the adjustment is concerned, I had been trying to use the lens memory function to adjust it for both the scope and 16:9 images, which didn't work. It took some trial and error before I discovered that I could use the aspect ratio button to make it work. It probably would have helped if I had read the Panny thread first! Also, I don't think that I'm using the whole frame for the 16x9 image, but am keeping it stretched, just like when using the scope image. I still have some more work to do.

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I was originally going to mount my projector on the ceiling as well but I decided to give it a shot on the soffit shelf to see how it would work out. It will obviously be different since I'm not using the Panny 3000 but it may be worth a shot to see if it makes a difference since it will be sitting upright vs. upside down and will perhaps be slightly lower. Good luck, hope the price comes back down once manuf. make formal announcements at CEDIA.
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CJ was right - reading/searching threads vs scanning does help. I found this in the Panny AE3000 thread:

I've also just used the aspect ratio button to switch to (S 16:9) and that way I don't have to keep switching my lens memory. Unless you position the projector just right, even if you switch lens memory settings to zoom in and out, you still have to manually adjust the lens as it won't perfectly fit on the screen in between switching. Selecting the Aspect Ratio button on the remote to switch between regular 16:9 (which should be your setting zoomed in to take up the full 2.35:1 screen) and S 16:9, then you won't have to have two different lens memories or require switching.

Since its only a couple of weeks, I'll wait until CEDIA announcements to decide on a new pj. The recent price move on the AE3000 has me in no hurry. In the meantime, I have a 5 year old Cineza HS51 that needs a new bulb that I may shelf mount temporarily. I need to decide if I want to buy the new bulb, though.

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The recent price move on the AE3000 has me in no hurry.

What is up that anyway! This is the PJ I was targeting as well. Isn't this stuff suppose to drop in price

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It will definitely drop once the new projector is officially announced.

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Man, I leave for a short vacation and come back and you're way past me I'm just starting to work on my fabric panels now.

Everything is looking great. Can't wait to see it in person sometime.

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Thanks guam.

I'm quite motivated by the fact I can't watch movies in there yet. And, after a flurry of UPS and FedEx activity, I'm a little closer...need a rack!!


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I'm trying to be patient and wait for my rack. But, the boxes are so very tempting. I think I hear them calling my name.

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Don't wait. Open away. You need time to start planning your wiring job. The only way you can do that is by opening

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To occupy my time and keep from installing gear on the floor, I updated the beginning of my thread by adding an index. I've been meaning to do it for some time, but I didn't think I had enough stuff. Hopefully, it's helpful to someone.

But, of course, I gave in to temptation (aided by guam's and tony123's nudges) and opened a few boxes yesterday as I thought my rack was on the FedEx truck. However, only 1 of 2 rack boxes arrived. The box with the actual shelves is still in transit. It's due today so I plan to install some of the goodies tonight.

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your linkies no workies. Probably too busy to get them working as you opening up all the freakin' boxes. You'll love the Emotiva, but wear a back brace when you lug it into the rack.

I must have missed what rack you bought?

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Progress looks great kj and even better than you have some helping hands...

I couldn't agree more, queen. In fact, because of the significant family involvment in the build, I decided to let the kids name the HT. No risk there, right.

They came up with a couple of names. After some spirited debate (actually, it was more like a few seconds), they choose Lewis Family Home Cinema.

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your linkies no workies. Probably too busy to get them working as you opening up all the freakin' boxes. You'll love the Emotiva, but wear a back brace when you lug it into the rack.

I must have missed what rack you bought?

Darn it. I'll try to get them fixed, thanks. I'll still haven't recovered from carrying the Emotiva downstairs...yesterday.

I ordered a 6-shelf rack from studiotech.

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The index links should be okay, now...I think.

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The 2 I clicked on worked just fine.
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Good job with the links. Unpacking the boxes is the fun part of the build!

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Not sure if you've seen KJ but there have been some developments on the 4000, you will be pleased.

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Thanks oman and CJ.

Ahh, the CEDIA news is starting to flow. The AE4000 details are interesting - thanks for the link. It sounds like it will be available in November. I may get a new bulb for my old 720p Cineza to tide me over as that would be a long wait. I'm anxious to see what other manufacturers have coming as well.

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After my son's football game, I finally had a chance to finish my rack and open the rest of my boxes. Loading the rack was a breeze after tussling with the Emotiva. It is built like a tank with grippy rubber feet and very difficult to manuver. I wanted to add wheels to my rack but they are back ordered until 10/15/09?? I picked up a couple of pairs of casters from HD that looked like a good fit. When I wrestled the Emotiva into place, the wheels began to buckle I removed all of the gear and then the wheels.

Once I had everything back in place (what a workout) I'd planned to go to bed (collapse) and connect the wires today. But, I was far too excited to wait. Four hours later at 3:30am the first sounds of music filled the HT (at a very low volume). I haven't received my surrounds yet but I just listened to a few tunes with a huge, probably massive, grin. I'll try to get some pics today before we leave for my daughter's soccer tournament. Tweeking will have to wait as we'll be in Omaha for 3 days.

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