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OK, Makes a little more sense now that you go into more detail. Obviously multi channel is going to sound better but it just came across like something was really lacking with stereo other than typical theater invironment constraints for listening to stereo. Dennis tried to talk me into getting the same speakers as you but I was just worried about their music capabilities compared to JTRs. I do like them though, almost pulled the trigger.

Great build and it was invaluable to everyone on this forum. Between you and PassingInterest the attention to detail cant get any better.

May you have years of enjoyment before an upgrade bug bites you!

Thanks for the compliment. I don't have any upgrade plans for a while (my mission is to enjoy what I have ) but I do still need to complete the entrance/stairs..

BTW I think the Klipsch speakers are really nice and I don't think you would have been disappointed even for music. I think the room makes the most difference. The JTRs are very nice too.

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I'm likely going with a curved screen as well given my short throw. When watching 1.78 material without the lens, does the barreling bother you at all? Did you ever consider leaving the A-lens in the light path for 1.78 content as well? I'm considering leaving it vs removing the lens for 1.78 material (mostly live sports).
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I am new to this forum.. the AV bug has bitten me recently.. I was browsing thru the forums when i stumbled upon this thread.
And i am not sure how i missed it. I have been "learning" about the HT and Build coz i soon plan to move out and build myself a small HT.
This thread is so enlightening... It covered so many aspects of HT construction.
And your craftsmanship is just awesome. You have outdone yourself with each of your projects.. And the ceiling is just fab. I just love the picture and the comment you posted that when u put up the star ceiling, you and your daughter had a Picnic.. it must be priceless.
if i have even 10 percent skills of you, then i might try to build something like you..
Anyways awesome Job... like like like!!!
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I've just spent the past evening and this morning reading this thread. Whilst continuing to be amazed at not only the quality but also your productivity, I am also curious as to where you find all the little bits and pieces. Aluminium tube, Delvin, a diode here, a relay there, steel fabrication etc etc. Do you have a set of good sources for all of this stuff or do you just have to search around a lot?
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I'm likely going with a curved screen as well given my short throw. When watching 1.78 material without the lens, does the barreling bother you at all? Did you ever consider leaving the A-lens in the light path for 1.78 content as well? I'm considering leaving it vs removing the lens for 1.78 material (mostly live sports).

The barreling doesn't bother me at all. I guess I have a "mid-throw" setup and the distortion is small. Frankly I only know it's there if looking at a text screen like the screen shot. I do somethings leave the lens in place and just switch by projector anamorphic mode to horizontal compress. It's hard to say whether there is a difference... perhaps it is slightly less sharp this way when viewed from the front row. So I guess the main reason for moving the lens is dramatic effect -- which shouldn't be underestimated!!

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And your craftsmanship is just awesome. You have outdone yourself with each of your projects.. And the ceiling is just fab. I just love the picture and the comment you posted that when u put up the star ceiling, you and your daughter had a Picnic.. it must be priceless.
if i have even 10 percent skills of you, then i might try to build something like you..
Anyways awesome Job... like like like!!!

Thanks! Keeping the thread and describing the journey actually helped me keep up motivation. Glad you enjoyed!

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I've just spent the past evening and this morning reading this thread. Whilst continuing to be amazed at not only the quality but also your productivity, I am also curious as to where you find all the little bits and pieces. Aluminium tube, Delvin, a diode here, a relay there, steel fabrication etc etc. Do you have a set of good sources for all of this stuff or do you just have to search around a lot?

I was an EE guy at college and still have a stash of electronic components sitting around, but these are my main sources:

Electronic parts:
Digikey
Newark

Mechanical and industrial parts:
McMasterCarr
Grainger

Other items just by lots of web searching...

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I've just spent the past evening and this morning reading this thread. Whilst continuing to be amazed at not only the quality but also your productivity, I am also curious as to where you find all the little bits and pieces. Aluminium tube, Delvin, a diode here, a relay there, steel fabrication etc etc. Do you have a set of good sources for all of this stuff or do you just have to search around a lot?

+1

I also read this threat last evening and then again this morning... awesome
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CA:


hi moggie, i have the same CA as you (the green is about 1 pixel higher).

do you know if there is anything that can be done to correct this?

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hi moggie, i have the same CA as you (the green is about 1 pixel higher).

do you know if there is anything that can be done to correct this?

Hi Anthony, I don't think what you are seeing is CA from the a-lens (which is likely to appear on the vertical lines. The horizontal is slight misconvergence of the projector. I would estimate this is about 1/2 pixel and only exists on the far left of the image. The only adjustment on my projector is the convergence control that moves the individual colors by one pixel at a time. If I adjust this it actual goes too far the other way and messes up the right of the image so the default adjustment is as good as it gets. This effect is completely invisible at about 5'-6' from the screen and impossible (for me) to see at all with normal film content. How well the projector converges seems to vary projector to projector, but 1/2 a pixel is quite common and I've heard of a lot worse.

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I just read all 31 pages of this thread.
I think you have the most engineered build of any on this forum.
Excellent work!!!!!!!
What an inspiration!!!

I've never seen LED lights in columns before!!! Who does that? Great job!


How much did it cost to deepen the basement?
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How much did it cost to deepen the basement?

So thats what that process is called? LOL
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I just read all 31 pages of this thread.
I think you have the most engineered build of any on this forum.
Excellent work!!!!!!!
What an inspiration!!!

I've never seen LED lights in columns before!!! Who does that? Great job!

How much did it cost to deepen the basement?
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the read. So what you are really saying is that I might have over engineered it a little

I didn't really deepen the basement; it was a little more involved than that! I'd rather not post the price but it was comparable with a small room house extension which is really what it amounts to: additional 450+ sqft to the home.

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Could you link me to the lights you used for you screen back lighting?
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Could you link me to the lights you used for you screen back lighting?

It was just was Home Depot had in the store. They were Hampton Bay line voltage tracks with the smallest halogen light fixtures I could find which didn't leak light backwards. I'm pretty sure these were the lights. I used 5 of them and a couple of tracks (two in a track on the floor and three in a track at the bottom of the screen. I was able to bend the track slightly to match the curve of the screen wall.

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I was beginning to wonder if I would ever reach this point, but the inside of me theater is officially DONE. Tuned, tweaked, and being enjoyed several times a week. Here is the final panel covering the rear subs. I hope to have some professional final photos to post soon.

Made from two layers of 1/4" ply bent to the correct radius and fixed with a bit of velcro:


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Looks brilliant Moggie!

No all you need is an ipad with iRule to replace those 5 remotes

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Now all you need is an ipad with iRule to replace those 5 remotes

Already done!

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haha nice work I ordered a GC-100-12 on the weekend
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Moggie,

Congratulations - You have to be Proud!
This thread has been quite the inspiration for many!!
What was your total elapsed time-to-build?

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What was your total elapsed time-to-build?

Pretty much exactly 2 years 6 months That did include a garage/workshop remodel and the games room above the theater as well.

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Congratulations Moggie! That curved panel looks sweet - any difficulties keeping the "ribs" on the curved panel from showing through? I remember Ronnie Jackson has some issues with that on his proscenium.
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Congratulations!! I can't wait to see the final photos. Enjoy it! You deserve to.
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any difficulties keeping the "ribs" on the curved panel from showing through? I remember Ronnie Jackson has some issues with that on his proscenium.

No. The fabric facing panel is one piece and I sanded a radius on the cutouts to avoid a hard edge and then painted back. They are 1.5" wide. A camera flash might pick them up but they are completely invisible in person.

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Congratulations!! I can't wait to see the final photos. Enjoy it! You deserve to.

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haha nice work I ordered a GC-100-12 on the weekend

Simon, here's my control set up. I use the iRule software on an iPad. The iPad is mounted using the RAM-A-CAN II in one of the seat cup holders. iRule connects directly to my Integra over IP and to the rest of my IR distribution system via an Global Cache iTach IP2IR gateway. The final touch was to jailbreak the iPad and install the Screen Dimmer app -- this dims the screen to black in two stages. All you need to do is touch the screen and it jumps back to life.. I'll probably be playing with the UI for a while; currently working on adding an IP camera so I can keep an eye on the door when I'm in my soundproof theater.






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Looks great. I like the ram a can for the iPad. I'm also thinking of going rule but it would really only be for cool factor ad I have my URC mx980 remote perfected at the moment. The iPad dimming app sounds awesome, do let us know how well it works over time. That was my one gripe with controlling the theater with an iPad. But if I can leave it on all the time (and dimmed) that would work extremely well.

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Simon, here's my control set up. I use the iRule software on an iPad. The iPad is mounted using the RAM-A-CAN II in one of the seat cup holders. iRule connects directly to my Integra over IP and to the rest of my IR distribution system via an Global Cache iTach IP2IR gateway. The final touch was to jailbreak the iPad and install the Screen Dimmer app -- this dims the screen to black in two stages. All you need to do is touch the screen and it jumps back to life.. I'll probably be playing with the UI for a while; currently working on adding an IP camera so I can keep an eye on the door when I'm in my soundproof theater.






That looks brillant Moggie! Thanks for the pics! Did you build the UI yourself or were you able to start with a base? If you didn't it must have taken a while!

So with that dimmer app does that mean you can leave the app on all the time so that you don't have to unlock the ipad, re-sync to the GC itach?

I noticed they have a GC -> Xantech IR cord for sale on iruleathome.com. Did you get that to tie the two together? or just a cord with 2 3.5mm jacks on each end?

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theater is officially DONE. Tuned, tweaked, and being enjoyed several times a week.

Beautifully done Paul...Kudos to your planning and execution!!

Having the opportunity see this theater come together has been truly inspiring, and your accomplishment deserves the highest of accolades.

Now box those elves up and ship em to Indiana...

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Really, really well done in every regard. Thanks for sharing Moggie - and you should be very proud of such a beautiful theater!

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AirBenji, Brad, thanks for the support. Now I'll have to get my HT fix by watching your progress!

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Now box those elves up and ship em to Indiana...

Thing is my wife already told them to work on the bedroom remodel... then the living room... then the yard. By that time they'll probably be dead

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That looks brillant Moggie! Thanks for the pics! Did you build the UI yourself or were you able to start with a base? If you didn't it must have taken a while!

So with that dimmer app does that mean you can leave the app on all the time so that you don't have to unlock the ipad, re-sync to the GC itach?

I noticed they have a GC -> Xantech IR cord for sale on iruleathome.com. Did you get that to tie the two together? or just a cord with 2 3.5mm jacks on each end?

Cheers,
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Simon, the basic outline of the UI is one of the iRule templates. I made a bunch of buttons including all those on the "audio settings" screen shown (love being able to directly select surround mode).

Correct on the Screen Dimmer app -- no resync to gateways, just instant on.

GC-->Xantech cord was purchased. It both attenuates and opto-isolates the connection. You could certainly build your own but I was at the point of wanting to wrap things up.

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AirBenji, Brad, thanks for the support. Now I'll have to get my HT fix by watching your progress!

For that to work, I'll need to actually start making some progress again hopefully will get to spend some time on it this (3 day) weekend.
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