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post #181 of 613 Old 03-31-2010, 01:15 PM - Thread Starter
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Jello,

You continue to impress and set the bar even higher !!
A special thanks for the details and close-up photo of the LED rope lighting. This is is giving me some fresh ideas for my room. If you haven't already done so; can you share with us a link for the source of where to buy these?

I picked it up on ebay. Just search for "led strip". The LED strips are really small and can fit just about anywhere.


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Nice lights....looks awsome...I love the detail...

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It's Monday again, time for a few more pics:





To make the curved fabric covered panels for the soffits I first started with 1" wide layers of 1/8" thick hard board.








I then glued each layer with wood glue and stacked them together.




I'm missing the pic of the strips clamped to the jig so they can dry but here is the result after the glue is set.





And here is the curve trimmed to size.





I used blocks of MDF to space the curves to the proper height to fit in the soffit.





Here is the GoM fabric cut for the curve frame.





I started out by stapling the fabric to the top edge.





And then I stapled it to the bottom edge. I made sure to pull out any horizontal ripples in the fabric at this point.





I then pulled out the vertical ripples and stapled the fabric to the sides.





Lots of staples.





Here is the curve installed.





And here are the soffit panels on the stage end of the theater.


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Hi Jello,

It was good getting acquainted with you at last weekend's meeting of our HT group. Let me take this opportunity to express how much I appreciated your contributions to the group discussion/fellowship. Consider yourself officially inducted into the "Carolina HT nut association"...whether you like it or not.

Your construction thread is a fun read. Thank you especially for taking the trouble to make photos along the way...they really help readers understand your trajectory as you make progress toward your goals. By the way, those photos of your HT room show that you're a real craftsman---great work! I look forward to seeing your theater "in person".

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Hi Jello,

It was good getting acquainted with you at last weekend's meeting of our HT group. Let me take this opportunity to express how much I appreciated your contributions to the group discussion/fellowship. Consider yourself officially inducted into the "Carolina HT nut association"...whether you like it or not.

Your construction thread is a fun read. Thank you especially for taking the trouble to make photos along the way...they really help readers understand your trajectory as you make progress toward your goals. By the way, those photos of your HT room show that you're a real craftsman---great work! I look forward to seeing your theater "in person".

Happy home theater-ing!

I loved the home theater meet! It was nice to get to talk to people that did not have to have everything explained to them If you ever want to see my project in person just shoot me a message and we can get together some time.


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More soffit work! I really wanted to get the soffit completely finished this weekend but time was not on my side. I would say I got 2/3rds finished but you will get the general idea.






I thought I was done with the insulation. I needed to insulate the soffits per bpape. Hopefully this will be the last of the insulation.





I started out painting the white light trims black. They pop apart easily enough.





Here they are side by side.





I'm making vinyl wrapped trim to go around the light fixtures. Here is the MDF panel before it's wrapped.





Here are the vinyl wrapped light trims installed. Even with the lights on for hours they don't get very warm at all.





Next I started making frames for the fabric panels on the underside of the soffits. The hole is to clear the nut that holds the light panels in place.





Next is to cut the GoM (Anchorage Onyx) for the frame. I made the frame out of a solid piece of MDF. The scrap from the center will be used to make a fabric frame for a column and the center scrap from that will be used to make a fabric frame for a section over an arch.





Lots of staples. I have already used almost 10000 staples. I also stapled the velcro that will hold the panel up just to be safe.





And the finished panel. This particular panel has a small section that is curved where it butts up to one of the curved corners of the soffit.





Here is a shot with a few of the panels in.




More panels installed.





This is my personal favorite shot.





Here you can see the side of the soffit also. There will be blue LED rope lighting in the soffit in the end.


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Great work - I enjoy watching and learning. Did you ever mention what model of Klipsch in walls those are?


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Jello, I have been lurking around avs for many years and finally have built a new home with a room to convert to a theater. It will be on the 2nd floor with similar challenges that you had. You have done an amazing job with yours and I thank you so much for volunteering to be my main adviser on building my theater!

I look forward to the completion of your thread and am almost done planning mine and will be starting my build thread soon. I am curious how long you spent planning yours before you started construction? Also your work is so intricate, did you design it all in autocad or something else before you started? I have a friend that is an autocad expert and will draft it all out for me.

My main dilemma so far has been acoustic sealant. I have researched everything i can on green glue and see nothing but rave reviews. I am trying to keep the budget as low as possible and have been trying to find any cheaper solution out there i can. With the main goal being to not have the neighbors calling the cops due to excessive volume leaking outside. (sardined houses, neighbor is 10 feet away) Unfortunately the more i read the more it seems i might have to bite the bullet and go into debt buying some GG, my room is a little larger at 16x22 with 8 foot ceilings.

thanks for sharing all your hard work!


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Great work - I enjoy watching and learning. Did you ever mention what model of Klipsch in walls those are?

They are R-5800-W all around. I did swap in the horn modules from a pair of R-5650-S surround in-walls for my side speakers since Klipsch does not make a Reference 5 series in-wall surround speaker with an 8" woofer.


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Jello, I have been lurking around avs for many years and finally have built a new home with a room to convert to a theater. It will be on the 2nd floor with similar challenges that you had. You have done an amazing job with yours and I thank you so much for volunteering to be my main adviser on building my theater!

I look forward to the completion of your thread and am almost done planning mine and will be starting my build thread soon. I am curious how long you spent planning yours before you started construction? Also your work is so intricate, did you design it all in autocad or something else before you started? I have a friend that is an autocad expert and will draft it all out for me.

My main dilemma so far has been acoustic sealant. I have researched everything i can on green glue and see nothing but rave reviews. I am trying to keep the budget as low as possible and have been trying to find any cheaper solution out there i can. With the main goal being to not have the neighbors calling the cops due to excessive volume leaking outside. (sardined houses, neighbor is 10 feet away) Unfortunately the more i read the more it seems i might have to bite the bullet and go into debt buying some GG, my room is a little larger at 16x22 with 8 foot ceilings.

thanks for sharing all your hard work!

I have been lurking (and learning) for years here before I even had the home that we have now. When we bought the house I was actually planning on using the bonus room but I could never come up with a plan that I liked. Using the bedroom and the storage area was more work but it's a better space. I would say that I spent a good 3 months planning out what I wanted and another month or so doing my preliminary drawings to see if I liked they way it would look in the space. I did all my designs in Solidworks which is not ideal for architectural drawings but it does let me produce renders with very little extra work.

As for the GG/DD? I could not have been happier (other than having to lug all that drywall up to the 2nd floor). Even with just bare drywall in the room the sound outside the house could never be considered a nuisance. My biggest problem now is the fact that the siding rattles. I think in the end the GG/DD added about $600-800 to the total cost with the GG being the largest part of the cost.


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They are R-5800-W all around. I did swap in the horn modules from a pair of R-5650-S surround in-walls for my side speakers since Klipsch does not make a Reference 5 series in-wall surround speaker with an 8" woofer.

Makes sense - did you build backing boxes for them or did you leave them open in the back?

EDIT: I see you built boxes. Can you provide any details?


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Makes sense - did you build backing boxes for them or did you leave them open in the back?

EDIT: I see you built boxes. Can you provide any details?

The 3 in the front use the stud cavity for their back box. I made sure to make all 3 cavities the same size. For the other 4 speakers I made a few boxes and tried them out until I got a size that sounded good to me. The box ended up being 20.5"x10"x5.5" and I removed the wall mounting frame from the speakers. The drivers are listed as infinite baffle type and the woofers are duel voice coil. There are no published specs (that I could find) on what is the optimal size enclosure but I would assume that something like the size of the RB-81 would work well also. On another note though, the KL-7800-THX has it's own backer box built in. I have an RW-5802 in-wall sub (I ended up not using it) that seems to use the same backer box that the KL-7800-THX uses (it has all the same overall dimensions) and it has just about the same volume as the boxes that I made.


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jelloslug, I would just like to say that the work in the pics you have posted looks excellent. Looking foward to seeing your finished product.


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There are no published specs (that I could find) on what is the optimal size enclosure but I would assume that something like the size of the RB-81 would work well also.

Thanks for the info. I couldn't find anything either so I emailed Klipsch tech support back in October with a question regarding the size of diy boxes for the 5800 and 5650. This was the reply I received from a "Senior Product Support" rep:

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Use a volume size of 1 1/2 cubic feet. Not smaller...2 cubic feet would not be over kill. But gets a bit large.
That is in inches height x width x depth then divide by 1728.

I'm just trying to keep my options open. I plan on using the KL-650's, but might go with the KL-7800's. I'm keeping the R-5800's in my plans in case I spend too much money on the rest of the build. I can't wait to hear your impressions of your finished room. It might save me a load of cash!


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Thanks for the info. I couldn't find anything either so I emailed Klipsch tech support back in October with a question regarding the size of diy boxes for the 5800 and 5650. This was the reply I received from a "Senior Product Support" rep:



I'm just trying to keep my options open. I plan on using the KL-650's, but might go with the KL-7800's. I'm keeping the R-5800's in my plans in case I spend too much money on the rest of the build. I can't wait to hear your impressions of your finished room. It might save me a load of cash!

I picked up the 5800s for a steal on ebay. They way I figure is that even if I don't end up liking the 5800s I can always get my money back. I also have an upgrade path to the 7800s later. I have seen new 7800s on ebay for very attractive prices so depending on how my overall budget ends up I may go for them anyway.


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Jello, I am going to do 2 similar window plugs like yours but without the 2x4's and insulation. I am going to put a white cellular shade in the window first for aesthetics from outside. that leaves me about 2.5 inches to work with. i was going to do MDF+DW+GG+DW for mine. You didnt mention how you fastened it into the window hole though? You said you surrounded it with felt to make it snug, Knowing you, i'm guessing you made it so perfect that it wedged in perfectly? Or did you place blocks inside to keep it at your perfect depth so it is flush with your wall and then tape and Spackle over it?

welp, as i'm typing this the wife just walked in and said screw wasting $100 on cellular shades and just paint the mdf white to be seen on the outside, or maybe cover it with a white fabric to show some texture. anyways, that gives me a hair over 3 inches to work with, do you really think it's worth doing the insulation part? i live in florida and it does get hot, we have double paned windows though which helps.


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Jello, I am going to do 2 similar window plugs like yours but without the 2x4's and insulation. I am going to put a white cellular shade in the window first for aesthetics from outside. that leaves me about 2.5 inches to work with. i was going to do MDF+DW+GG+DW for mine. You didnt mention how you fastened it into the window hole though? You said you surrounded it with felt to make it snug, Knowing you, i'm guessing you made it so perfect that it wedged in perfectly? Or did you place blocks inside to keep it at your perfect depth so it is flush with your wall and then tape and Spackle over it?

welp, as i'm typing this the wife just walked in and said screw wasting $100 on cellular shades and just paint the mdf white to be seen on the outside, or maybe cover it with a white fabric to show some texture. anyways, that gives me a hair over 3 inches to work with, do you really think it's worth doing the insulation part? i live in florida and it does get hot, we have double paned windows though which helps.

Since the window is the biggest "hole" in the sound proofing anything added to the thickness of the plug will help. I used insulation so I could mimic the construction of the rest of the walls. Don't forget that I turned the 2x4s on their side so my plug is 1/2" MDF, 1-1/2" wood framing (with insulation), 1/2" drywall, GG, and then 5/8" drywall for a total of just over 3" of thickness. When I made my plug I first started out by removing the window trim (so the wall would be flush) and finishing up the rough opening so the opening was square and plumb. I then built the plug 1/2" smaller than the opening and glued felt around the edges until I built the felt up to about 3/8" thick. After I manhandled the plug in place I then stuffed more felt around the gap until I could see no more light. I don't really have anything holding it in; the weight of the plug plus the felt packing seems to be more than enough to hold it.


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Thanks guys.

While I was waiting for some glue to dry (more on that in a later post) I decided to try out the LED strip lighting I bought for the step illumination.



The lights are 12 volts and dimmable which is good because they are WAY too bright at 12 volts.

I searched LED strip in ebay...1000 results came up..could you please tell me exactly where did u bought? what type...spoon feed...please..

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The soffits are done!



Looking toward the risers.





And looking toward the stage.


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Next up is the trim for the wall arches.



Here is the side arch top. It's made of several layers of MDF to give me the proper profile.





Here is the end were the vertical sections of the trim will butt up to the arches.





The vertical sections will be attached to the arch tops with dowels. Here is a jig that I made to make sure that the dowel holes will line up.





Here is the jig in place on the end of the arch.





The metal sleeves will keep the holes from getting from getting reamed out over time.


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this is a really great project you have going on...the creativity and attention to detail is impressive! I am subscribing to follow your progress...good luck with everything!
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Hey jello how ya doing..projects looking good man...hey, you think I could come over and check out your room? you are doing a few things I could use some guidance on. I would really appreciate it. I have references if you need them and I am local..please please..pretty please.???

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Hey jello how ya doing..projects looking good man...hey, you think I could come over and check out your room? you are doing a few things I could use some guidance on. I would really appreciate it. I have references if you need them and I am local..please please..pretty please.???

I don't see why not, just fax over your references before hand. I will send you a PM.


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I almost forgot!



I picked up a granite remnant for next to nothing for the wet bar. When I pick out a sink I will take it back to the granite shop to have the hole cut and polished.


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By far one of my favorite build threads. Your attention to detail is pretty amazing!

Keep it up!


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Just got done reading from the beginning. Amazing work and I look forward to more updates!
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Here is my stack of arch top parts. I have to admit that I cheated a bit on the arch tops. I really don't have the tools to mass produce the curved arch top pieces in any kind of timely manor so I did the next best thing. I had a local custom furniture shop cut the MDF pieces for the arches with their CNC router and I am going to assemble, drill, and route the edges. The price was surprisingly low and they had a quick turnaround. This has save me about 3 weekends of work.





Here are the dowel holes in the arch top.





And the dowels in the vertical trim piece. I'm not gluing the dowels at all since they are just there to keep everything aligned.





Here is the routing detail on the arch top.





I made some short pieces to attach to the arch tops while I am routing them so I don't accidently route the corners off.





Here is a completed section of arch trim wrapped in black vinyl. It's difficult to really make it out on the black frame.





Here is a closer shot of upper section of the trim.





And a shot of the seam between the vertical trim sections and the arch top. The dowels line everything up nicely.





I covered some scrap MDF with some scrap GoM Anchorage to test out the look of the column panels.


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Excellent idea in farming out the "arch machining".
Really look nice with the vinyl wrap treatment

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Excellent idea in farming out the "arch machining".
Really look nice with the vinyl wrap treatment

I was pleasantly surprised by the quote for the work and the quality was top notch, nevermind the fact that it's going to save me tons of tedious work with a jigsaw and a sander.


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