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get the dewalt biscuit joiner....it is fairly cheap, quite good, and you will find uses for it.

thinking about cutting biscuit joints on a router makes my brain hurt.

Thanks for the info guys on the biscuit joiner.
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Glad the spoundproofing is paying off this early!

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Now you are showing off with all that hardwood riser/steps treatment. I'm Jealous.
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Good job! I have some difficult time to cut curves with jig saw, mind to share some tips?
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Glad the spoundproofing is paying off this early!

Just another perk I didn't even think of initially.
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Now you are showing off with all that hardwood riser/steps treatment. I'm Jealous.

Wow. I'm honored. I've seen your incredible work...there's nothing to be jealous about. I'm learning as I go.
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Good job! I have some difficult time to cut curves with jig saw, mind to share some tips?

Well I am by no means an expert. Although I have logged quite a few hours now with the jig saw on this project.

1. Get the right tool for the job (The Bosch and blades make a big difference)
2. Use the right blade (again using the wrong bosch blade will affect your cut, time and clean edge)
3. Take breaks. You begin to zone out.
4. Don't let the blade get too hot. See #3 and take breaks.
5. Clean the dust off the surface so you can see the line ahead
6. Let the jig dictate the speed. If you push it through too fast, you might start cutting the edge at an angle unintentionally. The jig saw will pretty much push itself.
7. Use your free hand to guide the jig
8. Go slow and make small adjustments to stay on target

Does anyone know how long these blades should last when cutting oak?
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Well I am by no means an expert. Although I have logged quite a few hours now with the jig saw on this project.

1. Get the right tool for the job (The Bosch and blades make a big difference)
2. Use the right blade (again using the wrong bosch blade will affect your cut, time and clean edge)
3. Take breaks. You begin to zone out.
4. Don't let the blade get too hot. See #3 and take breaks.
5. Clean the dust off the surface so you can see the line ahead
6. Let the jig dictate the speed. If you push it through too fast, you might start cutting the edge at an angle unintentionally. The jig saw will pretty much push itself.
7. Use your free hand to guide the jig
8. Go slow and make small adjustments to stay on target

Does anyone know how long these blades should last when cutting oak?

Great work. It looks really good and I can tell that you are taking your time one the cutting.

My luck with blades on hardwood like this is new blade ever 50' or so. Could probably go longer, but the cut would start to fray the wood which required a lot more sanding! I hate sanding, and blades are cheap (relatively and if you find a decent source!) YRMV.

Keep up the great work. Glad you like the Bosch.
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Thanks btinindy. I need to make a trip to Home Depot to stock up on more blades!

So I'm tossing around the idea of carpeting the front stage...before I commit to the work and materials. It would be a pretty large time saver and would also eliminate some of the light reflections in the room. I added the bullnose in other areas mostly to help prevent someone from mistepping in the dark theater. The front stage is not a concern obviously.

Any thoughts on which you guys would do based upon these renders? I would still using 1/4" solid surface for the rise...just carpet on the top.







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I like the carpet for the front stage... but I'm biased because that is what I did. I just like the continuity and seamless flow.

So I vote carpet


BTW - I am still amazed at those renders every time I see them.
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How about using solid black carpet? I like the look of carpet and the pro of being non-reflective. But the patterned carpet on the stage doesn't flow as well as solid black with the two angled columns up front.
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Thanks btinindy. I need to make a trip to Home Depot to stock up on more blades!

I have found the Bosch jig saw blades, as well as just about any other brand and type of saw blades, to be much more affordable from Amazon than either Menards or Home Depot. And if you have Amazon Prime, you will get them delivered in two days. Only the times when Menards has something like a 15%-20% off on Bosch accessory's sale, is when they come close to Amazons prices.

Trust me, Amazon has lost money on me with their free two day delivery for prime members. Free two day delivery on two sets of 48"x18"x72" steel wire shelving units at 65lbs each and a 85lb TV stand assured that.
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Man those are some really shallow cup holders
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I say carpet with a wood bullnose to keep the look...

Agree with Mystical on those renders. They are amazing and so real looking.!

Keep it up Mario

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+1 for plain black carpet. And the theater really looks great Mario!!

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I have found the Bosch jig saw blades, as well as just about any other brand and type of saw blades, to be much more affordable from Amazon than either Menards or Home Depot. And if you have Amazon Prime, you will get them delivered in two days. Only the times when Menards has something like a 15%-20% off on Bosch accessory's sale, is when they come close to Amazons prices.

Trust me, Amazon has lost money on me with their free two day delivery for prime members. Free two day delivery on two sets of 48"x18"x72" steel wire shelving units at 65lbs each and a 85lb TV stand assured that.

I'm a Amazon whore.
I won't buy anything unless I check with Amazon first

My Bosch jig and blades came from Amazon
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Looking good Mario, keep up the good work
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Thanks btinindy. I need to make a trip to Home Depot to stock up on more blades!

So I'm tossing around the idea of carpeting the front stage...before I commit to the work and materials. It would be a pretty large time saver and would also eliminate some of the light reflections in the room. I added the bullnose in other areas mostly to help prevent someone from mistepping in the dark theater. The front stage is not a concern obviously.

Any thoughts on which you guys would do based upon these renders? I would still using 1/4" solid surface for the rise...just carpet on the top.

Mario - fantastic layout and build; I've been following along. I'd say your main room carpet for the stage; seems to work better in your rendering.

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Looking awesome Mario! Man, you've made a ton of progress in a relatively short period of time. The stage probably would be easier and look great with carpet and, like you said, would minimize reflections.
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Now I just need to figure out how to make a biscuit joint. I'm pretty sure I just need a bit for the router but will do some research.

You could also join the sections of bullnose together using pocket screws (on the bottom, of course). You would assemble the whole section on the work bench and then lay it in place. Personally, I would use pocket screws before I would cut biscuit slots with a router.

If you want to use biscuit joints, you should check Craigslist for used biscuit joiners. You should be able to pick up a machine for under $100 that would be perfectly fine for occasional use.

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So I'm tossing around the idea of carpeting the front stage...before I commit to the work and materials. It would be a pretty large time saver and would also eliminate some of the light reflections in the room. I added the bullnose in other areas mostly to help prevent someone from mistepping in the dark theater. The front stage is not a concern obviously.

Any thoughts on which you guys would do based upon these renders? I would still using 1/4" solid surface for the rise...just carpet on the top.

I like the idea of solid black carpet on the horizontal surfaces and black-finished wood on the vertical risers. The difference in sheen and texture will call attention to the fact that you have different levels there, while still being fairly subtle.

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I have a biscuit joiner and would recommend it over the router... I also have a jig system... what the heck is it called... I wanna say Craig System... Anyway, I think Big has this system also. Uses jigs to guide the drill to make precise holes, then use their screws. I like that also.

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I have a biscuit joiner and would recommend it over the router... I also have a jig system... what the heck is it called... I wanna say Craig System... Anyway, I think Big has this system also. Uses jigs to guide the drill to make precise holes, then use their screws. I like that also.

It is called Kreg.
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I have a biscuit joiner and would recommend it over the router... I also have a jig system... what the heck is it called... I wanna say Craig System... Anyway, I think Big has this system also. Uses jigs to guide the drill to make precise holes, then use their screws. I like that also.

It's Kreg
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Kreg! That's it. Thanks

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+1 on the Kreg jig. It has been incredibly useful for me.

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Pocket screws = Kreg jig

Here's the kind of joint we're talking about:


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Your theater is looking great... Nice Job!
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Thanks guys. I do have the Kreg jig. Used it extensively on the columns. I'll go that route instead of the biscuits.

If I decide to run with the carpet on the stage, can I just construct the top layer out of OSB? Then put a lip underneath to beef it up for the carpet to wrap around?

I don't think a bull nose will look right on the stage given the shallow depth of the stairs but something I'll double check.

I have my "carpet lady" checking into a black carpet to match the color and weave of the Masland Quadrate Time's Square. That may sway my decision on solid oak, black carpet or the same Time's Square pattern.
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Masland has a nice basic plush black. IMHO It won't matter if it is darker and different weave than the rest of the floor. That is the gray Quadrate of the floor. The plush is so black you really don't see the weave.

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