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Well, after years of having the home theater in the living room, we built a new home with a basement and moved in approximately a year ago. During the construction, my wife was diagnosed with thyroid cancer. Over course of the past year, she had surgery and treatment and now her cancer is gone. It's been a wild ride but now we are ready to get started on finishing the basement. The first room we are working on is the theater room (of course). We will finish the rest of the basement down the road, it is plumbed for a bathroom and "wet bar." The theater room is approximately 20X30X9. Three of the walls are already up. They act as supports for the floor upstairs. My father and I are going to get working here in a couple of weeks with framing out the last wall which should get the ball rolling. I plan on hiring out the electric and drywall and then come back in and finish up.

Right now I am planning on doing two rows of seating (second row on a riser) with bar seating behind the second row.

I am still unsure about screen shape and size. I just purchased an Epson 8500UB and have been tinkering around it. Having a room that is 20 feet wide, the projector throws a nice large image. I am planning on utilizing a false wall to hide the speakers and subwoofers behind.

As far as keeping the sound in and out. I am just going to do 5/8 inch drywall and insulation. We usually watch shows and movies as a family so I will just have to keep it turned down when they are asleep. It's not a problem cranking it up when everyone is awake.





This shot is looking forward where the screen will be. The room is currently flipped and I am shooting the projector on to a white wall (the only one that is drywalled.



Just another shot of the room, we currently have a lot extra junk in there.



This is where the back of the theater will be. Unfortunately, the large return feeds into A/C unit that sits on the other side of this wall (which has another large return that faces the back side of the basement). It was put in before I caught it.
I also plan on putting the equipment rack back here. 120 Amp panel is ready to go.



Last but not least, Klipsch THX Ultra 2 speakers and a Emotiva XPA-3 that came from Santa Claus.

I am sure I will have lots of questions, thanks in advance. Can't wait to get going..........
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Looks like a nice big room!! Keep us up to date.
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Santa was kind! You have a great space to work with, looking forward to the pics and progress.

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Your comment that sound isolation isn't an issue because you will use the theater as a family. That sounds great, but in reality, your kids will have friends over to watch a movie and the last thing they will want is Dad hanging around.

Obviously, this is just my opinion, but spending the time to make it as isolated as your budget will allow will make the room more usable, or maybe I should say it will make the rest of your house more usable whenever someone else is watching a movie.

The lack of sound isolation and the allowance for proper HVAC are two of the most common (and most expensive to fix afterwards) mistakes made.

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Your space is going to be fantastic. I'm jealous of all your space and the blank slate you have with your build. If you need anything at all let me know and I'll be happy to help.

Oh, and I told you I would give you a hard time about having all of your equipment set up already, cardinal sin of course in the DIY home theater realm. To make any progress at all you need to box all of that stuff up and not even peek at it until completion.

Since you have all of that space I would clear out everything from the theater room so you don't have to keep moving stuff around to work on the room. I wish I could have done that with my space. Would have saved a lot of headaches.

I am anxious to see it done after the demo today, your room will be pretty sweet. I now have projector envy and I think that the 8500 has made my short list for sure.

Now get to work!

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Thanks again for your help today............... I will keep you updated once we get going. Lots of picture of course.........
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Looking forward to progress, Nice room to start with.....wish I had one that size. My Media/theater room is a lot smaller. I have to wait till the next house for mine (maybe in a few years (my wife and I both agree our house is too small)

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Hey Mr. Matt,

Any progress on the construction? I was reading the Epson thread and know you have your replacement. Tonight's game would be the perfect demo material! Go Colts!

Remember if you need anything let me know, I'll be happy to help.

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We have neighbors coming over tonight to watch the big game. I haven't even got the new projector out of the box yet. Still using the old one. I will hook it up tomorrow before the games come on. Keeping my fingers crossed there are no problems.

I am going to pick up my lumber this week and we will get going with the framing this weekend.

My Slim 5-37 Rack showed up as well.

I will post pictures as the progress occurs.
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My dad and I got started with construction over the weekend. We got the final wall built along with the soffit framed around my duct work. We also got the door framed along with around the equipment rack and four pillars for speakers. It was about 25 hours of work over the weekend but I am pleased so far with the results. Here are some pictures.

South wall finally framed.



Another picture of the south wall with pillar.



Back of the theater.



Wall framed around Slim 5-37 rack.



I plan on getting the my electric guy in here in the next couple of weeks and we will see how things progress from there.
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Great progress! Feels good to bang some nails doesn't it? I think the way you tackled the back of the room with the rack is the best solution to your particular need to keep the air return unobstructed.

How is your replacement PJ? Hopefully no wavy red lines or other issues. Keep up the good work.

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Thanks.... No problems with the replacement projector just yet. Only have a couple of hours on it though. Things are still apart but I am expecting a big shipment from monoprice any day. I am going to get things hooked back up for the superbowl, then tear it down one last time so that we can really get going on it. I dont plan to hook it back up until the room is done.
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What a nice, big, "clean" area for a HT build. Look forward to seeing your progress.
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Thanks.... No problems with the replacement projector just yet. Only have a couple of hours on it though. Things are still apart but I am expecting a big shipment from monoprice any day. I am going to get things hooked back up for the superbowl, then tear it down one last time so that we can really get going on it. I dont plan to hook it back up until the room is done.

I think making sure your new Epson is working properly is your first priority, which obviously won't happen till after the Super Bowl, THEN boxing up your stuff so you won't be tempted is the best course of action in this situation. No need to box things up TOO early!


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What a nice, big, "clean" area for a HT build. Look forward to seeing your progress.

He does have a great space of which I am envious. It is a big blank canvass that anyone who would like to build a HT would be grateful. Now enough accolades and adulation's Matt, get back to work.

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Well nothing new to report on the construction side of things but I did put some equipment in the rack. (It will be taken out and stored after the super bowl when we start drywalling.)






I also had a new toy show up today.......... SVS PC12+ and man was it a beast to carry inside the house and down to the basement. I had to have some help and the wife gave me a dirty look after I got it unboxed.
It was a B-Stock and the guys from SVS said they took a bunch of stuff out to CES and most of it was never hooked up. I can't find anything wrong with it. It will be sitting behind a false wall once the room is done anyway.




Here is another shot of it out of the box. I was shocked with how big the sub is. I can't wait to fire it up. I am going to run all my speaker wire this weekend, hopefully it shows up from monoprice tomorrow.

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Very nice toy! If you needed some muscle I would have been happy to help you haul it down to the basement. I'll have to check that baby out before you wrap everything up for the remainder of the construction project. Rack looks nice too.

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I visited the guys at SVS in person and they are all super nice and super cool guys. They were also very flexible in working with me to get me and in the end my buddy some subs.

While there, they showed us some B-stock and let me tell you, it could be the most minor of flaws on the enclosure and it is b-stock. Things you would never even know unless they pointed it out to you. Their QC from what I saw was top notch. I think you will be very happy with your sub.
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I fired up the new sub today and it sounds pretty good. Only tried it with music, i will get the blu-ray and projector hooked back up later today and will see what it does. I had a little hiccup with my emotiva amp when it fired up and showed a fault on the first channel.

I reconnected and turned the unit off and on and it went away.
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Hey man you are slacking on your build thread. Any updates? Or are you too busy enjoying that new sub????????

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I also had a new toy show up today.......... SVS PC12+ and man was it a beast to carry inside the house and down to the basement. I had to have some help and the wife gave me a dirty look after I got it unboxed.
It was a B-Stock and the guys from SVS said they took a bunch of stuff out to CES and most of it was never hooked up. I can't find anything wrong with it. It will be sitting behind a false wall once the room is done anyway.

Heh.. when my SVS PC-13 Ultra came, I didn't get a dirty look.... I got a look of pure horror.

Combine that with the fact that the screen came the same day...

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Heh.. when my SVS PC-13 Ultra came, I didn't get a dirty look.... I got a look of pure horror.

Combine that with the fact that the screen came the same day...




Jamis, I bet that ultra sings......... My wife has been pretty accepting and knows that I get a lot of joy from my hobby. I hope everyone in the family enjoys things once we are done.

RTRose, I will get some photos posted here in the next day or so. All of the electric is done for now. Drywall and insulation have been delivered. I am going to get going with the insulation this week. Drywall will hopefully follow up soon thereafter. Probably won't get working on the riser and stage until June. We have a lot of landscaping to do outside and dad will need a little break. I will begin the process of taking everything out of the room tomorrow and boxing it up. (sniff, sniff)
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Finally, a little more progress done on the theater............

Rough electrical is in. Insulation is in and drywall will be going up starting up on Tuesday.

Here are some pics....... Outside of the theater looking in.



Some inside shots of the theater........







A Chief Mount that is ready for a projector. Hopefully by the end of summer.

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Stumbled on your thread and enjoyed reading your progress.. congratulations on your wife beating the big C and good luck in the future to you and you'res.

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Looking good and it is about time to get some more photos up. How far did you end up mounting your projector from the screen. I know the Epson has a pretty wide zoom range

I am always amazed at how drywall changes a room. You will surely be beyond pumped once the drywall goes up. I know you have a great drywaller so that is the first hurdle jumped, your in good hands.

Keep the progress and the pics coming.

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Exciting to be on the cusp of drywall finally! Good work!

One question though: no insulation on what appears to be external brick walls?

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Thanks for the all of the comments guys. It feels good to be moving forward again.

RTROSE- The projector mount will be about 14 1/2' from the screen on the false wall. Once we get the walls up. I will throw an image up from that distance and decide what size screen we are going go with. Most likely 120" 16:9, although I have the room for 130" and it is tempting.

hanesian- I wasn't sure what benefits I would get from insulating the wall since it was poured concrete behind it. I know others would be able to chime in on this with more knowledge then I have though. I realize this will in no way be a sound proof room, (there is a large HVAC return in the back of the room that feeds to the rest of the basement as well). I do though appreciate the extent that other folks go to soundproof their rooms, although as I said earlier it is not that high of a priority for us.
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Thanks for the all of the comments guys. It feels good to be moving forward again.

RTROSE- The projector mount will be about 14 1/2' from the screen on the false wall. Once we get the walls up. I will throw an image up from that distance and decide what size screen we are going go with. Most likely 120" 16:9, although I have the room for 130" and it is tempting.

hanesian- I wasn't sure what benefits I would get from insulating the wall since it was poured concrete behind it. I know others would be able to chime in on this with more knowledge then I have though. I realize this will in no way be a sound proof room, (there is a large HVAC return in the back of the room that feeds to the rest of the basement as well). I do though appreciate the extent that other folks go to soundproof their rooms, although as I said earlier it is not that high of a priority for us.

It is alway tempting to go bigger especially if you have the room. However you have to weigh image brightness as the pj ages and other factors such as room size and viewing distance. Having seen your room there is plenty of space and you could easily do 130", and you have enough room to be flexible in seating distance too, but I think the limiting factor here is the projector (not a slam on the Epson to be sure, because it is a great piece of equipment) but after time and the eventual bulb dimming I think your overall image brightness would suffer.

In reference to the insulation I think hanes was thinking more for thermal properties not sound isolation. If you have the chance before drywall starts you might want to put some up. I think you would need a vapor barrier somewhere in there since it is an outside wall. Your friends at the code department should have that answer for you.

I know I put in insulation due to thermal not sound considerations. Might be worth a quick look anyway since your drywall work starts soon.

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I picked up a vapor barrier this afternoon and I am going to go ahead and throw some insulation in along the one wall later today. I'll get some pics posted once it's done.
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Yeah, I was referring to thermal insulation. Living in the frost zone I tend to shiver just thinking about uninsulated walls. Especially if you have the walls still open, the cost of insulation isn't much. Who knows how high the cost of heating will go in the future?

Maybe if I lived in the "deep south" like you I wouldn't bother either.

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Yeah, I was referring to thermal insulation. Living in the frost zone I tend to shiver just thinking about uninsulated walls. Especially if you have the walls still open, the cost of insulation isn't much. Who knows how high the cost of heating will go in the future?

Maybe if I lived in the "deep south" like you I wouldn't bother either.

I would imagine it gets just "a little" cold up there in St. Paul. We are pretty lucky that the basement stays pretty warm. We only run the heat down there when we have guests over. It stays around 62 degrees without the heat running. But you are right, it won't hurt to throw some stuff in between the boards.
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