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AndreasMergner's Avatar AndreasMergner 08:58 AM 12-17-2010
I think Skylar did a great job of Spock. He doesn't play him like Nimoy, but who could? That voice is unmistakable.

Nice vid, PT!

premiertrussman's Avatar premiertrussman 09:17 AM 12-17-2010
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I think Skylar did a great job of Spock. He doesn't play him like Nimoy, but who could? That voice is unmistakable.

Nice vid, PT!

Its not just hes not Nemoy (as you said who could be) I think its that hes got like a slight slight underbite that lends him to have a lisp...i just dont ever see Spock having a lisp...maybe its just my imagination though.
Ted White's Avatar Ted White 09:18 AM 12-17-2010
I like the new Spock
JapanDave's Avatar JapanDave 09:22 AM 12-17-2010
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Japan Dave: I have been using these arrays for about 6 months now in my old HT. They sound great. Mind you, I am not an AV expert. I can tell you that they have HUGE output. They can sound clear way over reference. I have demoed my system maybe 6 times and 3 of those times people were plugging their ears at parts. I didn't know I was running way over reference until I visited MKTheater's HT. I've had a couple people say they were more impressed with the fronts than the THT.

There are some disadvantages with line arrays (like any design) - lobing/comb filtering. I can't hear it, but I'm not trained to. The advantages are that I am less likely to need sound absorption on the ceiling (my ceiling height is pretty low at 80"), and performance for cost. I made these for $30 each. The way they work, if I have 8 drivers in them, I get relative output of 64 drivers! That way I'm using very little output from each $1.25 driver and get low distortion.

They are called TLAHs and they are designed by BFM who also designed the THT. I have a build thread on AVS.

Thanks for the detailed explaination and they look great BTW. I am thinking I will build a set of arrays for the living room once I have the HT completed. We sit on the floor a lot and the way the arrays are setup it would be perfect. Thanks again!
premiertrussman's Avatar premiertrussman 09:22 AM 12-17-2010
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I like the new Spock

I dont hate him, and think he did a great job...its just something nagging at me...oh well, great movie either way. I was really glad i saw the first time down at my Sisters, it was epic.
msmCutter's Avatar msmCutter 09:42 AM 12-17-2010
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Um, you don't have to read the thread or even comment if you are going to be negative.

You want me to be positive? I'm POSITIVE Star Wars is better :-p
AndreasMergner's Avatar AndreasMergner 10:31 AM 12-17-2010
msmCutter, I'm POSITIVE you are not adding to thread by posting insults.

Who cares which is better? I can watch them both, although please don't make me watch Episodes 1-3. I guess 3 out 6 isn't bad.
premiertrussman's Avatar premiertrussman 10:39 AM 12-17-2010
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Who cares which is better? I can watch them both, although please don't make me watch Episodes 1-3. I guess 3 out 6 isn't bad.

Amen.

Actually I dont mind episode 1. At the time I was like...wtf...but then 2 and 3 came out and I was like OK 1 wasn't THAT bad...its just my opinion and i know most people dont share it...But Id rather watch a Jar Jar Binks talk show than another star wars movie with hayden christensen ruining it.

Sorry if i started something here AM, but bleck...hayden christensen....BLECK!

and then of course it doesnt help that george lucas has LOST HIS MIND!....what happened to him?
msmCutter's Avatar msmCutter 10:42 AM 12-17-2010
Ew... I stung him!

(Bringing up Episdoes 1-3? I thought you didn't want to post insults...)

Seriously though guys - the new Star Trek killed (or re-birthed?) the franchise. Now they're in a whole new universe making a whole new history. This was their way to get rid of the old shows/movies. They're free to make everything new and play out differently. Kirk, Spock, etc will all turn out different now. McCoy might not be gay... or maybe he'll be in Picard's "ready" room. If you liked the old stuff that new movie had piss you off a bit.
msmCutter's Avatar msmCutter 10:44 AM 12-17-2010
Christianson... he's no Takei
premiertrussman's Avatar premiertrussman 10:49 AM 12-17-2010
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Ew... I stung him!

(Bringing up Episdoes 1-3? I thought you didn't want to post insults...)

Seriously though guys - the new Star Trek killed (or re-birthed?) the franchise. Now they're in a whole new universe making a whole new history. This was their way to get rid of the old shows/movies. They're free to make everything new and play out differently. Kirk, Spock, etc will all turn out different now. McCoy might not be gay... or maybe he'll be in Picard's "ready" room. If you liked the old stuff that new movie had piss you off a bit.

Doesnt bother me a bit. The old stuff was done. Everyone from TOS is dead or dying and the TNG crew is getting to far on to do anymore movies...maybe some cameos...but nothing new on their own. So i didnt really have a problem with it.

I figured with the timeline changed, it'll either all end there...which is fine, or they'll start it up again which just means i get to watch more star trek lol. Win win.
AndreasMergner's Avatar AndreasMergner 01:15 PM 12-17-2010
Please, I really don't give a crap about which is better/gayer or whatever. They both have their good and bad parts.

I cleaned out the pj yesterday. Here are some pics of the inside for fun.





The hush box with a glass front and ventilation. I think I'll be running the supply to a vent, then to the hush box as shown and then to the second vent. The PJ is now silent, but I can hear the fan from the other room. I guess I need a door!
AndreasMergner's Avatar AndreasMergner 01:54 PM 12-17-2010
Well, the glass is causing some defocusing of the image in spots. What I think I might do instead is make a hole just big enough for the lens and then use some gasket or weatherstripping around it.

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Thanks for the detailed explaination and they look great BTW. I am thinking I will build a set of arrays for the living room once I have the HT completed. We sit on the floor a lot and the way the arrays are setup it would be perfect. Thanks again!
JapanDave: Thanks! The arrays are tapered so they naturally point up just a bit. You can put the piezos/tweeters anywhere on the box, but I think you are right that if you place them how I did that sitting on the floor would be perfect.
Steve_Vai_rules's Avatar Steve_Vai_rules 02:08 PM 12-17-2010
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Well, the glass is causing some defocusing of the image in spots. What I think I might do instead is make a hole just big enough for the lens and then use some gasket or weatherstripping around it.


JapanDave: Thanks! The arrays are tapered so they naturally point up just a bit. You can put the piezos/tweeters anywhere on the box, but I think you are right that if you place them how I did that sitting on the floor would be perfect.
you might have to use museum glass or equivalent to not get image distortions from the glass... not cheap stuff either.

also i hope there is an ep 7,8 and 9 for star wars.

oh and stargate is better then both star trek and star wars hahahaha (tho i'm pissed they cancelled SGU! i really loved the direction it was taking things).


Matt
premiertrussman's Avatar premiertrussman 02:26 PM 12-17-2010
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oh and stargate is better then both star trek and star wars hahahaha (tho i'm pissed they cancelled SGU! i really loved the direction it was taking things).


Matt
Everything is better when you're smokin that much weed!.....just kidding. I never got into stargate...seen a few episodes but not enough to get into it.
msmCutter's Avatar msmCutter 02:28 PM 12-17-2010
I'd like to see episodes 7,8 & 9 too!

I was wondering about the glass causing problems. The thought of projecting through glass just worries me.

With your arrays, is it possible to flip them over so they point just a hair down instead of up? Then you could change where you mount the boxes behind your AT screen.
Steve_Vai_rules's Avatar Steve_Vai_rules 02:31 PM 12-17-2010
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Everything is better when you're smokin that much weed!

shhhhhh i am canadian...


Matt
AndreasMergner's Avatar AndreasMergner 07:48 PM 12-17-2010
BSG was my fav sci fi series on recently.

People use glass all the time in front of PJ lenses. That is nothing new. I was using a very old piece of glass from one of the old windows. I'm sure it wasn't a uniform thickness which was most of the problem. Anyway, I'm going to just make a new front piece with a hole to fit the lens.

I received my fabric in the mail today. I tested out a panel mockup with it and the LEDs behind. It is going to look pretty killer if I do say so myself.

msm: the arrays are not in their final positions yet. I don't have my center and the LRs are just on the floor for now.
premiertrussman's Avatar premiertrussman 12:01 PM 12-18-2010
I cant wait to see some video of your whole room changin colors.
AndreasMergner's Avatar AndreasMergner 05:20 AM 12-19-2010
Yeah, it's going to be cool for sure! I have the ceiling and the entire floor black now. The projected image looks noticeably better than with white walls. I can't wait to get the entire room set up with fabric frames.

Pizza party last night. I made sure to get some pics. These pizzas were pretty amazing.

Margherita


Mexican


Linguica


Veggie & truffle


Bacon, egg and potato

premiertrussman's Avatar premiertrussman 08:02 AM 12-19-2010
Reported....for posting pizza pr0n.!

Those are some TASTY looking pizzas.
AndreasMergner's Avatar AndreasMergner 03:41 PM 12-19-2010
The pizzas were amazing! I ate so much and that was before we had some delicious desserts (including my "famous" tiramisu)!

Not much work on the HT today that will sound impressive. I'm working on how I'll be making my frames. My window plug is almost done too. Made another attempt at a front for the PJ hush box, but with the PC out of the room, the hush box was not as effective as I'd hoped. I also picked up some more lumber and did a bunch of cleaning/organizing in the area just outside the HT as it is a disaster!
Steve_Vai_rules's Avatar Steve_Vai_rules 06:59 PM 12-19-2010
omfg yes!!! those pizzas look knarly!!!!!

especially the egg and bacon one!!! daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn


Matt
premiertrussman's Avatar premiertrussman 07:04 PM 12-19-2010
I love that to post those pizza pictures you had to deliberately be like...wait...dont cut them yet...lemme get my camera...and then stand over the pizzas and take those pictures...and the best part is, that I dont think thats weird at all! Good on ya mate! (sorry ive been watching too much Top Gear.)
AndreasMergner's Avatar AndreasMergner 06:29 AM 12-20-2010
Matt: the Mexican was one of favs. It had salsa I made for the "sauce", then, refried beans in clumps, then mozz (I forgot the cheddar), then ground beef with taco seasonings, then sour cream, then jalapenos, and then avocado after it was cooked. Oh man, was it good. The jalapeno I put on was as hot as a habanero!

PT: Yeah, I made a joke about it. As soon as we pulled it out of the oven, I started to yell for everyone to wait until I took a picture. I tried to make as big a scene as I could. Ha ha.
AndreasMergner's Avatar AndreasMergner 07:47 AM 12-21-2010
Last night, my wife opened her Xmas presents. We do it early every year since we have to drive a few hours to her family for the holidays. It doesn't make sense to bring the presents I gave to her there and then back.

I gave her two wireless mics for karaoke. You can go onto youtube and find karaoke songs. I have the mics going through the HT sound system with the youtube video running. We did that for about an hour last night. It was really fun! I would never do karaoke in a public space, but it was no problem messing around in the comfort of our own home. For $40, it provides a great time! I can't wait to try it out for our NYE party. Hopefully with a little practice my singing will improve a bit.
msmCutter's Avatar msmCutter 08:34 AM 12-21-2010
It's not as fun if you're good
Steve_Vai_rules's Avatar Steve_Vai_rules 01:03 PM 12-21-2010
beer, wine, or rum-nog are all you need to make karaoke fun.


Matt
sumavguy's Avatar sumavguy 01:14 PM 12-21-2010
Great pizzas! How was that breakfast pizza?

Also have you looked into projection glass? We have used it at work in a few area where we have projection booths.
AndreasMergner's Avatar AndreasMergner 01:49 PM 12-21-2010
Matt, I agree with you. Alcohol will make any kind of karaoke fun! I'm sure the novelty may wear off, but we had a great time last night. I also have to break out the DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) pads so we can have DANCE OFFs!

sumavguy: The breakfast pizza was quite good. Next time we will put the egg on the pizza with a spoon in the middle of the cook cycle so we can get a runny yolk for dipping. The eggs were fully cooked when we pulled it out. The Mexican pizza was my fav with homemade salsa, refried beans, Mozz, taco meat, jalapenos, sour cream and avocados. Yum!

Where can I get projection glass? I looked it up on google, but only found glass to project onto.
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