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post #1261 of 1269 Old 03-29-2017, 05:34 PM - Thread Starter
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I wish I knew of someone. I was about to train someone over there, but they never followed through. I was also about to go over twice to paint, but those fell through too. I believe that there is another company over there somewhere, in Australia who paints similar ceilings... but since I know who they learned from, and I don't know if they've improved on what they were taught, I can't recommend them. But, I can look into options over there for you if you want to shoot me an email.

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This looks amazing, can anybody recommend someone in Sydney, Australia?
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That's a bummer, we're looking at your Stencil's now but Wifey and I are hardley Artisan's! How do you think the paint would go on a Polyester acoustic panel?
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Don't give up yet... that is just what I found as far as painters over there a while ago. Maybe there is someone better these days. I'd be happy to look into it for you.

As for the stencils on a Polyester acoustic panel... I don't know why it wouldn't work. I've painted on everything.Some materials take a little longer than others, but they have all worked.

Shoot me an email if you'd like. I can try to see if there is anyone over there that I'd recommend, or maybe one of these days I can find someone to train.

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I didn't know they went out of business. They seemed to be the best thing out there for Fiber optics. Too bad.

I was thinking that you could use the background star sheets that come in my DIY kit to place your fibers, but I think that there may have too many stars in each sheet. The sheets are 24 x 40 and have 250 stars in each sheet. I'm not sure how they would work with FO. I guess if you were to turn the lights down so they aren't so bright, it might work.

Other than that, you could pull up a picture of a real star field on your computer and then, in a drawing program, copy the locations, and density, of the stars that you want in your star field. Then, have the sheets printed on large sheets that you could then transfer to your ceiling.

I saw that someone was selling their stencil here on AVS, after they used it. Since you won't need any paint, you could probably pick it up cheep.

Good luck. Maybe someone else has some other options.

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Turns out the owner of FOSI retired at the end of the year. I'm still looking around for patterns - I'm surprised that most places just seem to say drill enough holes for X stars per square foot and thread the fiber-optic cables. The cables come in 3 diameters for different sized stars - I don't want to guess! The FOSI patterns looked like a perfect solution...
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Oh my gosh, no!!! Please don't just drill holes anywhere, trying to make them look random. What I have found that when you try to make things look random (at least in painting), the pattern starts to look like a pegboard with everything evenly spaced and uniform.

You know, something that you might want to look into is the NightSky stencil, from Ursa Major. They are the stencil i used to recommend before I came out with mine. I think that it would be perfect for a Fiber Optic pattern. Their stencils have almost 400 holes for a 12' x 12' ceiling, where mine have 250 holes in a 24" x 40" sheet, or a little over 5000 stars for a 12' x 12' ceiling. The number of stars is quite different, and so are the finished murals... BUT, for a Fiber optic ceiling, I think they would be perfect.

You can see if they would work by checking out their site here. They are %0 on their website, plus shipping. Don't get it here...
https://www.ursamajorstencils.com/pr...nt=16791268103

They start at $35 here, plus shipping.
http://www.willygoat.com/catalogmult...me=Ursa_Major_

I wish that my stencils would help you out... but for your project, these would be much better.

Oh, they have constellations in their stencils, too, but they are smaller than normal. If you don't care about that... then just drill holes for your larger fibers wherever they have their larger, constellation holes.

I hope this helps...

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Thanks for the link. I just bought two from Convoy's Aliexpress store. We will see how they perform... Jeff, one is yours if you ever make it back down to San Antonio....

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Googling that part number I found a seller for a Convoy S2+ 365nm Nichia UV Waterproof LED Flashlight; http://www.********.com/led-flashlights/pp_277704.html

Wouldn't do a whole star field, but may come in handy where you might need a touch up in spots.
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Thanks for this info! I just tested the sample lights that another company sent to me and I am very pleased with the first tests. But, I also sent Nichia an inquiry to see if I can get a sample from them as well to test.

Thanks again!

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Good, let us know how they work out.

It looks like I might be heading down to San Antonio/Austin fairly soon.

Oh, and I ran a second test on that string of LEDs that I just got to sample. Oh. My. Gosh!!!! A 4' strip worked as well as an American DJ panel light last night when I tested it in my bedroom. We have been using just 4 CFL lights under our ceiling fan to charge my mural... and I thought it was doing a great job. Well, last night I was blown away at the mural that popped out after I turned off the strip lights. My son and wife both commented that they hadn't seen the mural like that in years. So, I think that I have found a set that works. Now to see if I can get us a good deal.

But, please still let us know what you find out with your test strips.

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Thanks for the link. I just bought two from Convoy's Aliexpress store. We will see how they perform... Jeff, one is yours if you ever make it back down to San Antonio....
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OK, so after testing these LED UV samples... I can report that WE HAVE SUCCESS!!!!!

Oh my gosh, these LEDs are amazing. If any of you have ever used an American DJ panel light (super powerful) to charge up your ceiling... well, a 4' test strip in my bedroom last night (with 12' ceilings) charged up my mural as well as that did. I was blown away.

I just talked with the supplier who told me that he will stock 24 volt lights for my customers, but that he has some 12V in stock now that he wants to sell out. He told me that he would sell it at a reduced price if anyone is interested. They don't take one-on-one customers, so I told him that I would take any requests and send them on.

So, here's the deal... he has 12v LED UV Black lights that he will sell for $9/foot (regularly $15-$24/ft retail), plus whatever the power supply cost would be (I just emailed him for that price).

I know that some of you were wanting to put LED lights in, so this would be a great deal. He only has about 200 feet of the 12v led lights, so please let me know if you want some, and I will pass it along. Oh, and I will probably be taking 40 feet of that strip, so there will be about 160 feet left.

I hope that it is OK to do this since I am not selling it, but passing along what a clearance price for my customers. (Someone please let me know if I should delete this).

Anyway, I am soooo excited that I have found someone who is in the USA, who has lights that work for the glow paint.
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Just got two Chinly 335 count, 3 diameter cable fiber optic star celing kits on Amazon. Price was great and the bundles are pre-terminated.
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