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post #451 of 555 Old 08-06-2012, 01:39 PM - Thread Starter
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Okay,

I want to schedule the final inspection for my basement, but I need to finish up the handrail before I can do it.

The rest of the house has a stained oak handrail, with white spindles. This wont work well with the dark flooring I have installed in the basement (hard to match).

Here is what I think my best option would be:

Paint the handrail white to match my baseboard/quarter round/doors. Use metal spindles.
- My biggest queston about this is how will the painted handrail hold up to normal wear and tear? The Glidden oil based gloss trim paint I used in the basement seems to be durable, but I am worried it will get dirty quickly and look bad.

My other option would be to try to stain the handrail to match the flooring.
- I already failed at my first attempt at this (the thresholds I built), so I am hesitant to try this. I would then use white painted spindles. I think this would look really sharp, but will be tough to make look correct.

Does anyone have any opinions between the two options? Does anyone have any alternative ideas?

All input is appreciated!
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Option 2 would probably look the best. But maybe Option 1 would be easier, and you'd just have to start buying Mr Clean Magic Erasers by the case. biggrin.gif
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Okay, football season is only 10 days away. I want to get my final inspection completed before then so I have bought the handrail.

My wife picked it out and we are planning on staining the handrail to match the floors. I think with some test pieces I should be able to get it close - plus the floor has a glossy finish, so if i use a gloss finish on the handrail, the glare should hide some slight color variations.
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I know this is a long shot, but if you have a section of the stained flooring, you can take it to Sherwin Williams along with a scrap section of the handrail and they can color match the stain (or so I'm told). I've talked to a few people that have said it's uncanny how close those guys can get to matching existing stain.

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Well, its a laminate flooring so the color is actually printed onto the flooring. But, my sister-in-law works at Sherwin, so I might see if she can get a sample for me to try out.

Thanks for the idea, I will let you know how it turns out! Even if it doesnt work, its worth a try.
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Definitely let me know. I don't think it will matter that it's laminate. Our cabinet guys matched mdf crown molding to stained and glazed cherry, so anything is possible biggrin.gif

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Well, I hope to get a little work done this weekend. Been busy watching college football instead of making progress.

I just bought a newel post installation kit to help me get a nice solid installation...nothing worse than a loose handrail.

Here is what I got
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With the bullnose I installed over the edge of the laminate on the stairs I didnt want to use an installation that required me to twist the newel post. This is the installation kit that I ran across that made me most comfortable with the installation. I want to get everything dry fit before I start the finishing process.

Cheer for a Cyclone victory this weekend! If we win maybe I will post some pictures of a completed installation! biggrin.gif
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I just can hear the word "newel post" without thinking of this.



Here's hoping you don't have a reason to post pics of the completed installation...wink.gif
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I look forward to LOTS of finished pictures! cool.gif
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I just can hear the word "newel post" without thinking of this.Here's hoping you don't have a reason to post pics of the completed installation...wink.gif

Hey that's my brother in-law! How did he get in here?
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Cheer for a Cyclone victory this weekend! If we win maybe I will post some pictures of a completed installation! biggrin.gif

I will definitely tuning in to this one!
It will be a conflicted game for our family - my son has been accepted to both Univ IA and ISU.
Maybe he should commit with whomever wins on Saturday. His major is EE - so the Cyclones must win smile.gif

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I could get behind an ISU victory tomorrow biggrin.gif
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A win is a win - I will take it!

Anyways, I made just a little bit of progress on the railing installation.

Here is a picture showing the newel installation. No turning back now...
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Here is after I cleaned up the step and installed the bracket
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And here is the newel post temporarily installed
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I plan on temporarily installing everything so I know everything fits, then disassemble everything to stain/finish. Now that I have the scary part done (newel post installation) the rest should go a little quicker. I am having a basement party in the beginning of November, so that is my only real deadline...I am confident I can hit that date!
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I like the looks of those post brackets. cool.gif

And the ISU win! wink.gifbiggrin.gif
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Why couldn't I just install a simple handrail system, if that were the case I would be about finished by now.

Who knew it required so many tools to install some railing...eek.gif
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Of course my stairs aren't at a perfect 45 degree angle, so the rails needed to follow the slope of the stairs, so every cut needed to be adjusted. I need to glue in some filler pieces for the glass rails...that cant support the weight of the glass...so they must be carefully glued in so the glass fits, but then the glass needs to be removed before it moves the plug...but then I need to make sure the angles are correct and they are cut to the correct length....on top of all that the glass isn't beveled at a 45 degree angle, and of course i couldn't be lucky enough for it to match the slope of my stairs...you get my drift (its a huge pain in the rear)!!! /rant

My apologizes to anyone who actually read the previous paragraph.
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Brian,

I remember "Feeling Your Pain" when I installed a ballister/railing setup - a real time consuming (measure about a 100 times) PITA.

One question; you mention "glass" in this post.
Does this mean you will have a glass panel instead of ballisters....?

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Brian,
I remember "Feeling Your Pain" when I installed a ballister/railing setup - a real time consuming (measure about a 100 times) PITA.
One question; you mention "glass" in this post.
Does this mean you will have a glass panel instead of ballisters....?

Correct, it will use tempered glass instead of the more traditional ballisters. My wife ran across them and liked the look - I couldn't decide on a good traditional scheme, so we went with glass.

You can actually see them in the picture I posed (laying on the floor next to the level and top rail).
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Cool,

Looks like multiple vertical glass panels, I was visualizing a single large glass panel.
Will be looking forward to the end result !

Keep up the good / patient work smile.gif

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Just consider yourself lucky that you have a straight handrail... I redid my curved staircase a couple years ago and that one handrail took me about 5 full days from the bending down to the joining in with a straight section and all that. Never again.

Very rewarding when it's done though. Good work.
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Just consider yourself lucky that you have a straight handrail... I redid my curved staircase a couple years ago and that one handrail took me about 5 full days from the bending down to the joining in with a straight section and all that. Never again.
Very rewarding when it's done though. Good work.

YIKES! eek.gif I don't know if I would be brave enough to tackle a job like that.
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His major is EE - so the Cyclones must win smile.gif
that worked out well..........EE at UI = less likely to be hired

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that worked out well..........EE at UI = less likely to be hired

Looking more like ISU with every passing week

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Looking more like ISU with every passing week

I am sure your son appreciates us making life decisions for him! Anything else he needs help with? biggrin.gif
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Just a couple of pictures showing progress.

Here is the bottom rail with the wooden spacers installed. You can see the top two pieces being clamped in place (blue tape).
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And here is a shot showing the glass dry fit.
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Next step is to disassemble and sand everything down. I will then try to get it dyed and poly'd before the party Nov 10th (while working around 5 weddings and an elk hunting trip).
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Lookin' good! You mentioned one of my favorite movies too. 5 Weddings and an Elk Hunt rolleyes.gif
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I like how the glass looks cool.gif
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Lookin' good! You mentioned one of my favorite movies too. 5 Weddings and an Elk Hunt rolleyes.gif
Now that-there's funny

Brian - The glass railing combo is going to look VERY sharp, especially with the contrasting stained Oak!
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Lookin' good! You mentioned one of my favorite movies too. 5 Weddings and an Elk Hunt rolleyes.gif

That is funny!

More news. I scheduled my final inspection for this morning. I am happy to report I passed, with some exceptions...
1. I apparently missed a smoke detector in the hall, so I need to install one of those.
2. I need to switch an outlet in the storage room from a regular outlet to a GFCI outlet.
3. There is supposed to be a "groove" on the backside of the handrail to catch your fingers on. We talked and he is fine with me adding a cove to the back side. I will leave the glass portion unaltered, as I want to keep the clean lines. He seemed okay with it, so it shouldn't be a big deal.

The inspector said to just give him a call when the items are finished and he will mark it off the list - no need to come back. I am calling this a success.

EDIT: I just looked back in my thread to find out I pulled the original permit on 10-4-10, so it took almost two years from start to "finish"
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May I be the first to say CONGRATULATIONS on the "done stamp" !!
Time to get out the martini shaker for a toast smile.gif

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May I be the first to say CONGRATULATIONS on the "done stamp" !!
Time to get out the martini shaker for a toast smile.gif

Thanks cuzed! Its a good feeling...even though there is still a bit of work to be completed.

In other news, I bought the Avengers bluray today. I have not seen it in theaters, this will be the first "blockbuster" that I will experience first in my theater instead of a commercial theater. I am SUPER excited, as I have heard very good things...hopefully my expectations don't ruin it for me.

Showtime is tomorrow evening at 7 with my wife and a buddy!
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