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Just voted, also about to order ver1 since I assume ver2 will take a while to master and make so I'll order that as well when it's done.

Thanks for making it 'polled' really ends up with a community driven disc!

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I could, of course, send the disc to YOU (and wouldn't mind, if you like). I have a player, not a drive, and (mostly) Macs, which, of course, don't understand HD/BD at all (but don't get me started on THAT).
Unless, of course, there's no other interest in this file, in which case this is moot.
Let us know folks - worth the effort?
(I think it is.)
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You can back up/rip BD on a Mac. Google MakeMKV. Most LG drive will work on a Mac for this as well.
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You can back up/rip BD on a Mac. Google MakeMKV. Most LG drive will work on a Mac for this as well.

For which, of course, I'd need an LG drive. Easier and cheaper for me to mail the disc to someone willing to do it who doesn't already have the disc.
If, as I say, there's any call for it.
Thanks for the info, though. Turns out there's a forum right here (not that that comes as a surprise to anyone):
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1164508

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Now that we have some of the year end distractions out of the way, Volume/Version 2 should be showing some progress...

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CHICAGO - Cell Block Tango 7:39
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Audio: LPCM 5.1

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Version 2.0? Sweet!

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In my opinion, swapping discs sort of defeats the purpose doesn't it?

Who uses discs anymore? HTPC FTW! Much faster! I can "swap discs" in just a couple of seconds with a few clicks. Either way, I don't mind.

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Here is a suggestion for the music section:

Metallica Francais Pour Une Nuit - Enter Sandman 1:41:23 - 1:43:01
Video: MPEG-4 AVC / 1080i60 / 1.78:1
Audio: English DTS-HD Master 5.1 (48 kHz / 16-bit / 3027 kbps / Core DTS 5.1 1509 kbps

I can provide the source just let me know the format needed.
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I could, of course, send the disc to YOU (and wouldn't mind, if you like). I have a player, not a drive, and (mostly) Macs, which, of course, don't understand HD/BD at all (but don't get me started on THAT).
Unless, of course, there's no other interest in this file, in which case this is moot.
Let us know folks - worth the effort?
(I think it is.)
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Michael, I tracked down the dvd and you're right that is an excellent track for the demo disc.

I converted the HD-DVD to Blu-ray, so I'll pm the op and see of he wants me to supply the track.

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Thank you for seconding my opinion and for the effort. As it happens, I'm much too stubborn to have just given up.
I found a used xBox HD player at cowboom.com (a division of BB) for <$40. My mac was able to read the files but couldn't do anything with them (as expected). I copied the 16GB (!) .evo file to the hard drive (after several LONG sessions of working [stupidly] off the HD player]). TsMuxR is not available for OS 10.6, so I ran it under XP using Parallels.
After much trial and infinite error, I was able to cut and demux the file (hint: don't bother with the decimal places in the "hours" setting, use the "seconds" setting, instead). I remuxed the two files as BD format and burned a DVD-RW using ImgBurn and it worked in my BDP.
I have the files on a server that Steve has access to, but he said something about being busy with "work" or "life" or something ridiculous like that (I guess the donations from version one weren't enough to fund his retirement), and he hasn't had a chance to try them yet. He may still be interested in yours.
I tried to cut a sample down enough to post here, but the files are still too big. Sorry, folks.

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Steve, I was wondering if you could possibly look at putting a section on your disc of clips from movies that are encoded with 7.1 Dolby or Dts. There aren't alot out there right now but I thought for those that have a 7.1 system that might be handy. Excellent high quality project by the way. I will be ordering one of these.
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Steve, I was wondering if you could possibly look at putting a section on your disc of clips from movies that are encoded with 7.1 Dolby or Dts. There aren't alot out there right now but I thought for those that have a 7.1 system that might be handy.

There are a couple here:
http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/hi...n-trailers.php

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I'd like to chip in with a music suggestion: from the Eagles Farewell 1, Hole in the World. Great test/demo material in many ways. Deep bass is bass drum and bass guitar. Close-ups for evaluating skin tones. Black on black clothing. Spotlights. And it's a great song.
And it's short!

I just had the chance to watch this one 1080P and lossless, and I definitely vote for it to be included. Video and Audio are top notch REFERENCE quality.

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I just had the chance to watch this one 1080P and lossless, and I definitely vote for it to be included. Video and Audio are top notch REFERENCE quality.

I downloaded it off of "teh server" but haven't had a chance to mux it and give it a spin. I can remember about 10 years ago I used an Eagles DVD for demoing to customers when I worked at an A/V retailer.

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Steve, I was wondering if you could possibly look at putting a section on your disc of clips from movies that are encoded with 7.1 Dolby or Dts. There aren't alot out there right now but I thought for those that have a 7.1 system that might be handy. Excellent high quality project by the way. I will be ordering one of these.

Jvoth,

I'm trying to find a way of re-vamping the menu so that it will tell you the audio that is in each clip. I don't think I'll be creating a 7.1 genre but I may create some sort of filter. I'm planning to do this with scoped content so that those with scope screens basically click a button and it puts them into a menu loop that is a duplicate of the main menu set but altered to only contain scoped contents (the menu itself will be scoped to)

To pull this off my main element to tackle is figuring out the memory in scenarist so that when I select a clip it will take you back to the item you just selected instead of the top-menu like in Vol-1.

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We can't let this thread die! We NEED version 2! LOL @ NEED.
I know you don't want this steve, but when I get home everyday, I forget to put this movie in and find the timestamps, BUT, I think we need the sound canon scene from The Incredible Hulk in LFE.
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This thread isn't going to die, it's just at the tediously slow clip collection phase. Volume 1 had the same period of inactivity. That and I'm super busy with personal life at the moment too

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I just got my version 1 disc in the mail(Thanks scubasteve). Anyways the one things that stands out to me is that there is some 3 hours of video on the disc.

It would have been nice to have somewhere to select 30min demonstration and it would run through clips. Jumping from clip to clip.

Basically the inclusion of playlists. Maybe people that have the disc can pip up with their playlist. I'm sure people don't sit visitors down and play the whole thing. Which clips do you play and why?

If there were some go to playlists on the discs so just sit down press play and forget about it. That would be great.
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If there were some go to playlists on the discs so just sit down press play and forget about it. That would be great.

That's called a movie.

This is different.

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That's called a movie.

This is different.

Whooosh. That's the sound of my comments flying over your head.

A movie is 2 hours of the same plot driven source. Completely different from a 20, 30, 60 min HT demonstration made up of clips specially selected to show off ones home theatre the entire running time.
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I just got my version 1 disc in the mail(Thanks scubasteve). Anyways the one things that stands out to me is that there is some 3 hours of video on the disc.

It would have been nice to have somewhere to select 30min demonstration and it would run through clips. Jumping from clip to clip.

Basically the inclusion of playlists. Maybe people that have the disc can pip up with their playlist. I'm sure people don't sit visitors down and play the whole thing. Which clips do you play and why?

If there were some go to playlists on the discs so just sit down press play and forget about it. That would be great.

Haps,

The disc purposefully contains 3+ hours of clips, wherein the collection of clips each have different strengths, even differences within the same genre/section.

For example, the LFE section may have 1 clip that performs better on your system than mine, however a different clip may perform better on my system than yours.

Since everyone's theaters have different strengths and weaknesses it would be impossible to select the best 30 minutes of demonstration to create a playlist. If we could have the best 30 minutes objectively, this disc would be on a DVD and would be cheaper for everyone to either buy or download/burn.

I've put an emphasis on navigation, so you should be able to navigate from clip to clip with relative ease. When you demo your system feel free to select the best 30 minutes, you'll just have to manually go from clip to clip.

With that said, I'll be doing a "play-all" for v2 and will look into a genre/section play-all as well.

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This thread isn't going to die, it's just at the tediously slow clip collection phase. ..

more coming ...

Elton 60 and Styx and the contemporary youth orchestra of Cleveland.

Not sure which tracks, but pretty much from both disc the whole thing are demo material.

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Whooosh. That's the sound of my comments flying over your head.

Not at all, I just don't agree with them. The purpose of a demo disc is to select clips that you're in the mood for or that suit your audience. Those two components are ever changing, so a static list doesn't make as much sense. There's plenty of non-stop action movies if you just want to put something in and let it play without taking into account the aforementioned factors.

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I'll watch clips from V1 then I'll vote.
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more coming ...

Elton 60 and Styx and the contemporary youth orchestra of Cleveland.

Not sure which tracks, but pretty much from both disc the whole thing are demo material.

Steve I definitely like the idea of having an orchestra on V2. I personally didn't care much for the music on V1. Overall though, I love the disc. Keep up the good work!
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Blackhawk Down, scene: Irene/take off

X3 (Xmen United) scene: Magneto drops the bridge
X3 (Xmen United) scene: Xavier vs Dark Phoenix

Cloverfield, scene: assault in alley.

The Dark Knight, scene: Jokers monolgue in jail/breakout steals police car.

Monsters Inc, scene: Boo laughs for the first time.

These are my suggestions.
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I downloaded it off of "teh server" but haven't had a chance to mux it and give it a spin. I can remember about 10 years ago I used an Eagles DVD for demoing to customers when I worked at an A/V retailer.
Saw your comment (somewhere ) about wanting to stay away from full music clips because of copyright concerns, so "the server" now has a clip of the first 25 seconds of Hole in the World. If you'd like something in between (and can't chop it up yourself), let me know.
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Blackhawk Down, scene: Irene/take off

X3 (Xmen United) scene: Magneto drops the bridge
X3 (Xmen United) scene: Xavier vs Dark Phoenix

Cloverfield, scene: assault in alley.

The Dark Knight, scene: Jokers monolgue in jail/breakout steals police car.

Monsters Inc, scene: Boo laughs for the first time.

These are my suggestions.

I agree we need something from Cloverfield on this version...
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I agree we need something from Cloverfield on this version...

OT: I was flipping through the movie channels late at night and saw it listed in the guild, so I started watching it part way through.

The first scence was some guy banging a woman from behind, her..rather large...mammaries swaying to and fro.

I was like "WHAT?" then went back to the guide and saw it was "Cleavagefield"....

But I think we should include it on the demo disk.
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OT:

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I was like "WHAT?" then went back to the guide and saw it was "Cleavagefield"....

But I think we should include it on the demo disk.

This was actually funny!!!

Which one is the one you want included? Remember the disc is intended to be PG13...

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What about including some of the DTS intros? I always thought the piano bit was well done with a little bit of low end and surround mixed into a quick 10 sec clip.
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What about including some of the DTS intros? I always thought the piano bit was well done with a little bit of low end and surround mixed into a quick 10 sec clip.

I initially was going to include them, and my first test-disc had them, but the source for the clips were 1920x1080p @ 60Hz. All other content is 1920x1080p @ 23.97Hz (24Hz), this meant if those DTS clips were included on the disc that everyone's projectors and display devices would have to re-handshake when switching to those 60Hz clips and then re-handshake again when switching back to the menu or another clip. 2 handshakes for a 15 second clip wasn't worth it so I removed them.

I sourced them from a DTS demonstration Blu-ray, there might be 24Hz clips out there but I havn't searched for one.

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