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post #31 of 40 Old 02-11-2011, 02:59 PM - Thread Starter
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Agree, that is same lesson that is in this thread , http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1081573&page=2, which has a HT color scheme that might be similair to what smokarz desires
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...6&postcount=47

nice, i really like this...is that black suede on the ceiling?

why not just use eggshell on the ceiling instead of flat?
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How does the Suede paint hold up to people touching it?
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I really like those color combinations (dark purple carpet).

Haha, the carpet is actually ebony. The way the light shines off of it, the camera shows it to look dark purple. Several have commented on it being dark purple. but thank you. I really like the color combo!
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why not just use eggshell on the ceiling instead of flat?

More reflections.
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From some analysis I did 2 years ago in this post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...8&postcount=32

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Well;
Earlier in this thread I spoke with the Behr rep, and they agreed my idea doing a "test" zone for comparison flat enamel vs eggshell vs satin. Based upon that review to buy (reimburse) me up to 5 gallons of paint, 2 gallons of flat poly (If I really-really want that), plus $30 in supplies - of course as long as it's Behr paint. They admit Behr does NOT make a true flat poly, so another brand is acceptable.

Here is my test patch painted last week, and dried for 7 days.
You can see where I painted Satin, Eggshell, and flat enamel (which my side walls had originally) on either side for comparison purposes
LH side wall direct shot

LH side wall from 2nd row:


Pictures "in movie mode", these taken while watching Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace with my 3 kids tonight, all on tripod w/o flash:
This taken with ISO 1600, LH most side of 2nd row


This taken with ISO 200, LH most side of 2nd row


This taken with ISO 800 (1600 too washed out/noisy pict), RH most side of 2nd row


This taken with ISO 200, RH most side of 2nd row



Definitely glad I did this test, Satin does have too much sheen and reflects more light than I suspected, Eggshell is on the border of acceptable tradeoff sheen/reflecting light vs more durable than Flat Enamel.

Hopefully this little test/picts posted helps others:
a) I'd say never choose Satin for your side walls in a Home Theater, too much sheen/reflection
b) Even eggshell reflects more than I thought, YMMV is you choose eggshell for side walls. Since I'm going to put acoustic treatments at 1st reflection points, 2 panels/side wall, most likely I'm going with Eggshell.
You people who do the full acoustic treatments floor/ceiling obviously don't have this problem (I realize you stop the 703 @ ear height and above that is cotton batting behind the GOM).
c) Obviously flat for ceiling is best, just be careful about touching it afterward
d) Be VERY CAREFUL when you clean your walls

Others in this thread seem to have success with flat/flat enamel in other brands, so my choices are:
1) Stick with Behr, have them pay me for their paint brand re-painting (materials, not labor)
2) Go with another brand, pay from my own pocket

Most likely, I'm going with choice 1) at least $100 I'll "save", and I learned the cleaning issue the hard way.

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nice, i really like this...is that black suede on the ceiling?

why not just use eggshell on the ceiling instead of flat?

You'd have to ask member "c-not-k" those q's, it's his HT room.
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why not just use eggshell on the ceiling instead of flat?

For walls, where people will rub up against them, personally if I had it to do over again, I would have just gone with eggshell to begin with. YMMV.

Keep in mind, wall and ceiling treating is heavy dependent on how close your screen gets to them. The closer the screen gets to the surface, the more likely you will be to be annoyed by the reflection.

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How does the Suede paint hold up to people touching it?

Not well............can bugger up quite easily. Small marks can be touched up, but you will have to re-paint a larger area to blend in.

With that said, Ralph Lauren Suede really looks great and does diffuse light better than most other paints I've researched...........
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I would be tempted to start by taking the swatch of your wall paint color and using the darkest available in its "page" of color...



That will keep it very much matching.
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This is a poor quality BB phone video, but it's what my hometheatre room looks like. We did brown ceiling, Black walls on the projector side, and vanilla brandy on the card table side. We have earthy brown random tile. My wife and I did the whole project together. It was an accomplishment for us because it was all our labor. We did every piece ourselves with some advice from friends!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSNz7tj1BVs

It turned out better than I thought (I had to negotiate with my wife for the colors - she wanted browns, I wanted blacks. I wanted black tile, black theatre seating and a black room. She didn't want everything black).

Here's a couple work in progress pictures - but the video shows the completed room.








Best part was it wasn't terribly expensive to restyle this room because we did it all ourselves.

Here it was before - Pretty horrible (we had a water/mold problem when it rained real hard so I installed a waterproofing system and sump well at the same time I redid the room.)




You can see how much light a white celing reflects (don't have that problem now with the brown ceiling - despite having raised the screen about eight inches closer to the ceiling.

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