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Hi all,

I am looking for some advice on image quality for larger posters. I have been looking for a casino movie poster...the best I can find is 2000x3000 at 72dpi.

Is there a good rule of thumb for image quality vs size?

I would like to be able to make my printed images 4-5 ft long.

Thanks in advance.
Keep in mind that you want your images at 150dpi, so if you are starting with an image that is 72dpi, to get it to 150dpi (without losing or creating any data), your 2000x3000 image at 72dpi is the same as a 960x1440 at 150dpi.... Not big enough for a 4-5 foot long image without some noticeable softening when enlarging the image.

Now, Casino is an older movie, so finding quality images, as you are finding, is hard, let alone images that have some decent size to them. I've done some looking for another AVS member for a Casino poster in the past, we we never really had any good luck with it and it got dropped from his list of posters.

Now if that was 2000x3000 at 150dpi, then you would have a great size to work with for a larger printed image.

Can you use a different, newer movie instead? There would be better luck in finding an image that would be larger to start with.
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Lincolnite,

I'd think about 1000 pixels/ foot is a safe bet. That's what Spoonflower told me when I wanted my image to be 8' long. They can tell you how many pixels it should be for the size you want.


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Hello,

This is my first post in many years so excuse me if I goof this up. I am in the process of rebuilding my Home Theater and just ran across this thread. I need to add 4 absorption panels and this is a wonderful idea. Thanks to all that have made this possible and for sharing your ideas.

rPrice54 your images are FANTASTIC!

I know the kids would love the Nemo shark, Iron man and Capt. America.

Are your files available on SpoonFlower or is it better to go hunt them down at the previously listed sources?

Many thanks again to all for your creative and generous work.

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I know that some of those (if not all) are available at blu-ray.com in one of their "textless poster" threads. You just have to dig for them.

For PG13/R movies go to: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=176706
For G/PG movies go to: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=169156

Then you will need to get them resized and a border put around them. I can do that for you (for free).
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Then you will need to get them resized and a border put around them. I can do that for you (for free).[/QUOTE]


Hello Nick,

Thanks for the advice and for your kind offer. I have CS3 Photoshop so I think that part is covered although I do appreciate your offer.

I guess I need to go hunting for covers now. Probably need to re-read this thread to figure out the right sizes, fabric (leaning towards the performance one if I can find it ). Just finished working up a Marquee per one of the other threads here. Looks great!

What a great forum.

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Then you will need to get them resized and a border put around them. I can do that for you (for free).[/QUOTE]

Nick,

One question I do have for you on file size. I see that Spoonflower has a 40Mb limit. When I rez up my files to 24x36 @ 150dpi I am in the 50Mb and somewhat higher. That doesn't even include a black border yet.

So how are people getting 24x36 and even 24x48 (which I would prefer anyway)and still staying under the 40Mb limit? Are you doing some sort of compression?

Thanks

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The posters are up. I might take one or two down to tweak them as the PK fabric is a bit more stretchy than I expected so the text on some of my posters got a little racked when I attached it. Be wary of using posters with long lines of horizontal text if using the PK. Also, another FYI is I found the black posters difficult to line up as it is tough to tell where the image ends and the black border begins when it's face down under a poster frame. I built my frames out of 1/2" plywood I ripped into 3" planks and I think it is very sturdy. I assembled them with 1 1/2" trim staples with a air stapler.
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The posters are up. I might take one or two down to tweak them as the PK fabric is a bit more stretchy than I expected so the text on some of my posters got a little racked when I attached it. Be wary of using posters with long lines of horizontal text if using the PK. Also, another FYI is I found the black posters difficult to line up as it is tough to tell where the image ends and the black border begins when it's face down under a poster frame. I built my frames out of 1/2" plywood I ripped into 3" planks and I think it is very sturdy. I assembled them with 1 1/2" trim staples with a air stapler.
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Sorry, just fell onto this thread, they look amazing! where did you get them printed? going to read thread from start now.

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Check out the thread. Print everything through Spoonflower.com. As a side note, Spoonflower is a local NC company and I actually went and picked my prints up and toured the facility. Very cool place with great people running it. They had no clue about the acoustic properties of the material but were very appreciative of the AV community support.
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Need help

Is this doable. I have a bass trap panel that measures 24.25” x 48.5” x 7.25”. I have a high res photo of Gandalf that I would like to use. I tried on spoon flower but 1 yard is 42 inches wide. Any suggestions on how it could be done?

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Is this doable. I have a bass trap panel that measures 24.25” x 48.5” x 7.25”. I have a high res photo of Gandalf that I would like to use. I tried on spoon flower but 1 yard is 42 inches wide. Any suggestions on how it could be done?

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Yes since 2 yards is 84 inches long. I had to do that with one of my photos and I just had quite a bit of white space on each side. So just rotate your picture and upload it and select 2 yards.
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Yes since 2 yards is 84 inches long. I had to do that with one of my photos and I just had quite a bit of white space on each side. So just rotate your picture and upload it and select 2 yards.
Thanks. I'm an idiot. Why I didn't think of that I don't know. Do I need to do the repositioning of the photo so it prints on 2 yards in Photoshop or on spoon flower ?

Also what is the consensus on choice of.material?

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I rotated the image and then reuploaded it so I'm not sure if you can do it in SpoonFlower or not.

I compared both and I liked Silky Faille better as the weave is a little tighter and I didn't have to worry about straight lines, even though my artwork didn't have any text or lines. But a lot of people like Performance Knit too so there isn't a right answer. If you have text or straight lines, Performance Knit will be more difficult and take longer to work with. Those are the two fabrics we've gravitated to in this thread. Both should work equally well for acoustic treatments. Performance Knit might be barely better if being put in front of a speaker.

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Then you will need to get them resized and a border put around them. I can do that for you (for free).

Nick,

One question I do have for you on file size. I see that Spoonflower has a 40Mb limit. When I rez up my files to 24x36 @ 150dpi I am in the 50Mb and somewhat higher. That doesn't even include a black border yet.

So how are people getting 24x36 and even 24x48 (which I would prefer anyway)and still staying under the 40Mb limit? Are you doing some sort of compression?

Thanks

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Save them as JPG and you should be just fine. Or use TIF and set the quality down a little and you will get a really large file size, but still great quality without being about 110MB like the full TIF.
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I rotated the image and then reuploaded it so I'm not sure if you can do it in SpoonFlower or not.

I compared both and I liked Silky Faille better as the weave is a little tighter and I didn't have to worry about straight lines, even though my artwork didn't have any text or lines. But a lot of people like Performance Knit too so there isn't a right answer. If you have text or straight lines, Performance Knit will be more difficult and take longer to work with. Those are the two fabrics we've gravitated to in this thread. Both should work equally well for acoustic treatments. Performance Knit might be barely better if being put in front of a speaker.

David
So true about the stretch and such, however I would *NEVER* put Silky Faille in front of a speaker. Performance Knit performs a LOT better with the "blow" test, and measures better for less interference from the speakers in testing. This is because, as you mentioned, the SF has a tighter knit.
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These look great! Are most of you guys using one of the sites listed near the beginning for your Hi Res images?
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These look great! Are most of you guys using one of the sites listed near the beginning for your Hi Res images?
I got my artwork from image search engine, I told the search engine to return hi-res images.
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The posters are up. I might take one or two down to tweak them as the PK fabric is a bit more stretchy than I expected so the text on some of my posters got a little racked when I attached it. Be wary of using posters with long lines of horizontal text if using the PK. Also, another FYI is I found the black posters difficult to line up as it is tough to tell where the image ends and the black border begins when it's face down under a poster frame. I built my frames out of 1/2" plywood I ripped into 3" planks and I think it is very sturdy. I assembled them with 1 1/2" trim staples with a air stapler.
Nice job. What kind of PJ screen is that?
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The posters are up. I might take one or two down to tweak them as the PK fabric is a bit more stretchy than I expected so the text on some of my posters got a little racked when I attached it. Be wary of using posters with long lines of horizontal text if using the PK. Also, another FYI is I found the black posters difficult to line up as it is tough to tell where the image ends and the black border begins when it's face down under a poster frame. I built my frames out of 1/2" plywood I ripped into 3" planks and I think it is very sturdy. I assembled them with 1 1/2" trim staples with a air stapler.
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I meant to comment on this earlier. They look great. The wide Star Wars one is a nice change from the standard sizes.
Did any of my Photoshop edits show up in the final product?

As for lining up a dark poster with a black border, I have often wondered about a solution to that problem since a lot of people have it.

I am thinking that a solution might be to put a couple of pixels of gray in each of the 4 corners so that you know where those are supposed to line up, and then adjust from there. Then take a black Sharpie marker and cover the gray. Of course, if that worked well, an entire 1 or 2 pixel wide border could be put between the front poster image and the side black border and covered as well.

Just food for thought for anyone that might have me edit posters for them in the future.
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Nice job. What kind of PJ screen is that?
White milliskin spandex. DIY screen built for about $80 all in. 130" wide, 147" diagonal.
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I meant to comment on this earlier. They look great. The wide Star Wars one is a nice change from the standard sizes.
Did any of my Photoshop edits show up in the final product?

As for lining up a dark poster with a black border, I have often wondered about a solution to that problem since a lot of people have it.

I am thinking that a solution might be to put a couple of pixels of gray in each of the 4 corners so that you know where those are supposed to line up, and then adjust from there. Then take a black Sharpie marker and cover the gray. Of course, if that worked well, an entire 1 or 2 pixel wide border could be put between the front poster image and the side black border and covered as well.

Just food for thought for anyone that might have me edit posters for them in the future.
Nick I didn't notice any edits. I really love the finished product. I like the idea of adding gray pixels to black posters. The only other issue I had was how to best fold at the corners to hide seams. Now I just have to decide which posters need OC703 behind them and which don't.
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Lincolnite,

I'd think about 1000 pixels/ foot is a safe bet. That's what Spoonflower told me when I wanted my image to be 8' long. They can tell you how many pixels it should be for the size you want.


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Keep in mind that you want your images at 150dpi, so if you are starting with an image that is 72dpi, to get it to 150dpi (without losing or creating any data), your 2000x3000 image at 72dpi is the same as a 960x1440 at 150dpi.... Not big enough for a 4-5 foot long image without some noticeable softening when enlarging the image.


Can you use a different, newer movie instead? There would be better luck in finding an image that would be larger to start with.
Thanks very much for the info guys, this is exactly what I was looking for.

I do have some other images that I plan on using, but I would really love to have a casino poster...


I also wanted to ask if anyone has had reflection issues with any of their posters next/close to their screen.
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Yeah, just good luck finding original images that aren't already enlarged that are 1000 pixels per foot. The pixel count still doesn't factor in the dpi. As mentioned in my previous post, 150 dpi and 72dpi aren't the same.

My recommendation? Find some images first, and then either use a good program to expand them to the size and resolution that is best, or have one of us help ya out. I am always open to help people with that.
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Save them as JPG and you should be just fine. Or use TIF and set the quality down a little and you will get a really large file size, but still great quality without being about 110MB like the full TIF.
Nick,

It finally dawned on me that these are jpegs so there is the compression.

I made up (4) files, 24x36 final finished size, 150dpi with black border added and sent them off to Spoonflower. I should get them tomorrow and will see how I did.
Thanks for the help.

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The posters are up. I might take one or two down to tweak them as the PK fabric is a bit more stretchy than I expected so the text on some of my posters got a little racked when I attached it. Be wary of using posters with long lines of horizontal text if using the PK. Also, another FYI is I found the black posters difficult to line up as it is tough to tell where the image ends and the black border begins when it's face down under a poster frame. I built my frames out of 1/2" plywood I ripped into 3" planks and I think it is very sturdy. I assembled them with 1 1/2" trim staples with a air stapler.
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Wraunch,

Beautiful theater and great looking absorption panels. Congrats on a very nice job.

I have been debating adding some columns to my build but it would be a real pain since I am dealing with knee walls that angle inward at about 62" AFF.Anyway, I was wondering what the walls might look like with just 4 or more panels per side.

Your photo shows that it would look very nice so thank you for posting.

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Yeah, just good luck finding original images that aren't already enlarged that are 1000 pixels per foot. The pixel count still doesn't factor in the dpi. As mentioned in my previous post, 150 dpi and 72dpi aren't the same.

My recommendation? Find some images first, and then either use a good program to expand them to the size and resolution that is best, or have one of us help ya out. I am always open to help people with that.
Okay so I found some images from the blu-ray.com forum - but most of them are 300 dpi, making the image very small when I upload it to spoonflower. I downloaded the gimp software (hoping to change the dpi) and the only changes I am finding I can make are ppi. I did some reading and it doesn't look like that is what I need to do.

Thoughts/suggestions?

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I have never used GIMP since I have Photoshop. 300dpi is more detailed per inch, but probably smaller in width and height. You can take the current width and height and double it if you effectively drop it to 150 dpi. Again, not sure how to do that in GIMP. Or, shoot me a PM with links to the images that you want and I can resize them. I would obviously need to know how big you want the final image (in inches) and we can go from there.
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Let's say I have a piece of art hanging in my home... Could I take a picture of it with my camera, and then make it into one of these Fabric Pictures?

All of this is largely beyond my scope of knowledge... and given there are 55 pages, it has probably been asked & answered, but hoped someone will have the patience to answer anyway.

I did look some, and saw you can do family photo's/ your own pictures from a Camera... just not sure if taking a picture of a picture would work.
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Consistent lighting/photography equipment would be the challenge. Most decent cameras today have more than enough resolution (read printed photo size) so really it's a matter of getting a nice picture of your picture.
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Has anyone used Fabric Mate track's with these fabric posters? I realize they are only 1", but my desire is more focused on Aesthetics than acoustic benefits per se.
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Let's say I have a piece of art hanging in my home... Could I take a picture of it with my camera, and then make it into one of these Fabric Pictures?

All of this is largely beyond my scope of knowledge... and given there are 55 pages, it has probably been asked & answered, but hoped someone will have the patience to answer anyway.

I did look some, and saw you can do family photo's/ your own pictures from a Camera... just not sure if taking a picture of a picture would work.

It works if photo is taken properly...that's how posters of paintings are sold.

Just set camera to highest resolution, definitely use a tripod, and take the image from 8-10 feet away, even if you have to zoom when composing the shot...this will help avoid distortion introduced by the lens when too close. Try two lamps at 45 degrees each 5-10 feet away, depending if there's any hot spots from the lighting, adjust distance or place some white sheets or even wax paper in front of lights to diffuse light. In photoshop, or any other photo editing software, adjust the white balance and any other adjustments to make the image colors neutral. Then crop for just the image if it already didn't fill image space when composing the shot.

Just a quick and dirty general guide, but hope it helps.
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