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Hello. I have 4 Windows in my room that I want to cover up. I was thinking of making these panels there so that it would give it a great look and be functional aswell. Do you guys recommend doing the panels so large. Each window would be 46 w x 76 x h

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That would be a great idea, they would be some pretty big panel! Make sure you measure, check twice.
Also keep in mind the light will bleed from the side, since the panels are rigid, so you might want to consider something under them.

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Hello. I have 4 Windows in my room that I want to cover up. I was thinking of making these panels there so that it would give it a great look and be functional aswell. Do you guys recommend doing the panels so large. Each window would be 46 w x 76 x h

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I think they would look fantastic in that space!
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I would make the frame so that it would site inside the window frame to have it flush.. I was thinking of adding some molding around the panels so they wouldnt bleed light.
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Hello. I have 4 Windows in my room that I want to cover up. I was thinking of making these panels there so that it would give it a great look and be functional aswell. Do you guys recommend doing the panels so large. Each window would be 46 w x 76 x h

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I blacked out a 45x54 inch window with a panel I made.

I used this to black out the window first...

Blackout EZ Window Cover - Large (45" x 66") Black/White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006S65GAE..._-exWybF04GS9P (Same company makes custom sizes)

Then I covered the window with the panel and not one spec of light comes through. See attached.
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I blacked out a 45x54 inch window with a panel I made.

I used this to black out the window first...

Blackout EZ Window Cover - Large (45" x 66") Black/White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006S65GAE..._-exWybF04GS9P (Same company makes custom sizes)

Then I covered the window with the panel and not one spec of light comes through. See attached.
Good idea. So you put the panel over the window.. I was thinking of making it inside the frame to give it a flush look. Nice design and theater!!
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Hello. I have 4 Windows in my room that I want to cover up. I was thinking of making these panels there so that it would give it a great look and be functional aswell. Do you guys recommend doing the panels so large. Each window would be 46 w x 76 x h

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I don't see a reason why not. The size would require multiple OC-703 boards to cover, but the fabric would cover that without issue (most of the fabric is at least 48 wide, some as wide as 58 inches). As an additional plus(or two) if you mounted to the room wall and set it 'over' the window box (rather than setting the panels inside the frame of the window box), you would have an air-gap between the panel and the window behind it. That air-gap will increase the efficiency of the panel significantly. Finally, it would also block the light.

You could even do a compression-style panel, that had some type of foam seal around the edge (like you have with an exterior door), so you could pop the panels in/out when needed, without any negative impact.
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I don't see a reason why not. The size would require multiple OC-703 boards to cover, but the fabric would cover that without issue (most of the fabric is at least 48 wide, some as wide as 58 inches). As an additional plus(or two) if you mounted to the room wall and set it 'over' the window box (rather than setting the panels inside the frame of the window box), you would have an air-gap between the panel and the window behind it. That air-gap will increase the efficiency of the panel significantly. Finally, it would also block the light.

You could even do a compression-style panel, that had some type of foam seal around the edge (like you have with an exterior door), so you could pop the panels in/out when needed, without any negative impact.
I like the idea of the compression style panel and covering the whole window idea. What are you using to hang the panels?
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Be careful of potential moisture buildup between the glass and your compressed fitting panel. I'd black out the glass as a poster did above and then put the panel in front of the window with an air gap between wall and panel frame.
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I blacked out a 45x54 inch window with a panel I made.

I used this to black out the window first...

Blackout EZ Window Cover - Large (45" x 66") Black/White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006S65GAE..._-exWybF04GS9P (Same company makes custom sizes)

Then I covered the window with the panel and not one spec of light comes through. See attached.
Good idea. So you put the panel over the window.. I was thinking of making it inside the frame to give it a flush look. Nice design and theater!!
Yes I overlapped the window by 2 inches on the sides, and 6 inches top to bottom. The reason I overlapped the vertical measurement more is to allow for hanging the panel with zbars over the windows.

I've attached photos of the blackout ez attached to the window, and you can see the z bars attached above the window. Then the panel just hanged over it.

I've also attached photos of how I built the panel. Since it was so big I put a cross piece down the center of the panel. I also put fiber board on the back to help strengthen the panel.
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What do you guys think of these?


https://printgaze.com/


At the prices they are currently offering them at, I'm thinking it might be worth a try. Figured I could just build my frame for the insulation to fit them.
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https://printgaze.com/

At the prices they are currently offering them at, I'm thinking it might be worth a try. Figured I could just build my frame for the insulation to fit them.
Potential issue: their "canvas" may not be "acoustically transparent", meaning the sound will bounce on them like on plain wall.

The idea of the acoustic panel is to "absorb", "attenuate" sound reverberation and reflection to obtain a cleaner sound.
"The purpose of an acoustical panel is to reduce reflected sound and dampen the echo and reverberation"
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Agreed that they are likely not acoustically transparent, but I'd love to get my hands on their art library.
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Potential issue: their "canvas" may not be "acoustically transparent", meaning the sound will bounce on them like on plain wall.
The idea of the acoustic panel is to "absorb", "attenuate" sound reverberation and reflection to obtain a cleaner sound.

That was what I was wondering. Probably better off saving the $65 and putting it toward the proven material.


Still might order one of these for my son's room. He would love the Batman one.
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Agreed that they are likely not acoustically transparent, but I'd love to get my hands on their art library.
Some of us have master the mystical Art of Google-Fu ;-)

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Agreed that they are likely not acoustically transparent, but I'd love to get my hands on their art library.
Absolutely. I winder if they'd be willing to print onto the proper fabric for a panel?
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hi, i am able to get some cheaper rockwool. I was wondering if that can be used for these panels?
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hi, i am able to get some cheaper rockwool. I was wondering if that can be used for these panels?
You need to make sure they are the "rigid" type. Roxul rockboard 40, 60, 80 for example.
most of the time they will be 2x4. (24x48inch).

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You need to make sure they are the "rigid" type. Roxul rockboard 40, 60, 80 for example.
most of the time they will be 2x4. (24x48inch).
These ones have one shiny side and seems pretty rigid. Would they have same sound dampening properties or acoustic foams are special?
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These ones have one shiny side and seems pretty rigid. Would they have same sound dampening properties or acoustic foams are special?
I guess they are the one with the Aluminum side.
You can peel the aluminum away.

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That was what I was wondering. Probably better off saving the $65 and putting it toward the proven material.


Still might order one of these for my son's room. He would love the Batman one.
A few of those sites, like that one, grab images from anywhere on the internet and then sell the products using other people's artwork. It is one thing to borrow and print, and another to sell someone else's artwork.

One other thing, as already mentioned those canvases are many time very reflective as they almost always put a hard coating over the printed image making the canvas even more acoustically reflective.

That being said, I have an enlarged version of the original Batman image in 36" x 64" at 150dpi. It is freely available online for people to use, which is why I grabbed it, but can't be sold. I threw the original through my resize software, and it definitely has some blur and detail loss even using high quality software. Nothing that won't look good from 5 feet away, but my image is easily just as good as what they would sell you.

It is just a matter of splitting it up into a few panels.

If interested in the image as is, let me know, if you want me to cut and slice it, I can do that too. You just need to decide if the DIY price is worth it for your son's room vs the already done price.
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Anyone order the Spoonflower in a plain fabric and attempt to do their own art on it, such as Batik? My wife wants to build these but do her own art design. We ruled out acrylic due to the resulting reflection on the hard painted surface, but Batik may retain the acoustic transparency. Or maybe there is another method of coloring the fabric that could be recommended? We don't want anything tye dyed though.

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I've been trying to find a company in Europe that prints on acoustically transparent fabric, to make several acoustic panels, and it turns out that Spoonflower has a factory in Germany. I contacted them to ask if their printing process and methods there are exactly equal to the ones used in the US, and it seems they are, so the quality shouldn't be an issue.

I was planning to choose the Performance Knit fabric, based on the opinions posted on this thread by several users, but the reply I got from Spoonflower left to me wondering if it's the best option. Here's an excerpt ''The processes are equal to our US based operation. The results you would see would be the same as if that fabric were printed in our US facility. It may be worth noting that this fabric as a synthetic is not particularly acoustically transparent, and our most transparent fabric for permitting the movement of sound would be our Kona cotton.''

Are ''we'' sure Performance Knit is indeed a good option?
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Anyone order the Spoonflower in a plain fabric and attempt to do their own art on it, such as Batik? My wife wants to build these but do her own art design. We ruled out acrylic due to the resulting reflection on the hard painted surface, but Batik may retain the acoustic transparency. Or maybe there is another method of coloring the fabric that could be recommended? We don't want anything tye dyed though.
I used Spoonflower's Performance Knit for my images. I didn't use poster or movie themes, but more of an artistic set of elements that spread across multiple panels. The "inspiration" was from the metal piece of artwork that is supposed to go behind the wet bar just outside of the home theater (if I EVER can scrounge the funds to build it). The art piece is a number of metal circles that are different sizes and metals. I basically recreated it digitally in Photoshop, added some background elements to blend with my room colors, and printed them. Turned out great.

I wouldn't use any fabric that has anything but the raw fabric and ink. Some art pieces are coated with waxes, paint, or other hardened materials that make it reflect sound, and you don't want that.
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