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post #1291 of 1314 Old 12-25-2014, 10:30 AM - Thread Starter
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I'll be hanging around to see how your bar build goes. I know you are confined by your room and with want you want to do regarding the sides and rear speakers and wall mounting is not really a viable option as per your layout. Since the rears and sides are supporting cast members in this whole theater surround sound thing, I'd say that IMHO in-ceiling speakers will fit the bill very nicely.

You are detail oriented and are handy to boot so I's say that with all of your talent you can pull this off pretty handily. Now get to work!

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Thanks for the compliments, RT!

I have a couple pieces of bamboo plywood laying around that I might use to make the bar top. Could be really nice, you know?

The bar row is mostly so I can get more seating in there. I worried about that when I built the place originally but I think this will help tremendously.
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My theater is roughly 20 feet deep. I wish I had about two more feet width (making it roughly 15.5 feet wide) and about 5-6 deeper so I had room to add a bar top seating area. That would be very nice for the games and whatnot because it is awkward to eat in actual theater chairs and then it would be nice from time to time to have the extra seating. Like for example when my oldest has all of his buddies and their buddies over and have 15 people in my 7 seat theater.

Looking forward to seeing the time lapse of this little endeavor come together.

On an unrelated note but something that you can identify with, my youngest son 16 has taken a keen interest in photography this past year and for Christmas this year we bought him a Nikon D3200 as his first DSLR. He has had the use of my old Minolta 35mm SLR but this is his first foray into a solid DSLR platform. Bonus is that I can use it when he isn't, but that will be awhile until the newness wears off.

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I would second the idea of going ahead and at least wiring for atmos while you are at it. If Atmos doesn't pan out, receivers are now also starting to incorporate auro 3D format which can take other formats and retro-fit to them. From almost any review I have found, it is really incredible so far.

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On an unrelated note but something that you can identify with, my youngest son 16 has taken a keen interest in photography this past year and for Christmas this year we bought him a Nikon D3200 as his first DSLR. He has had the use of my old Minolta 35mm SLR but this is his first foray into a solid DSLR platform. Bonus is that I can use it when he isn't, but that will be awhile until the newness wears off.
Fantastic! I hope he really enjoys it. I started around 16 too and have scarcely put down a camera since.

OK, distraction time.

I've been noodling around with my little system upstairs in the living room. This system is all about the headphones. The speakers are just there for parties and listening to during dinner. :-)


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The last two items are the new additions.

I stumbled across the free media player called Volumio that is designed to run on the very cheap board computer called the Raspberry Pi. For $40, an SD card, and a $20 USB WiFi adapter I was able to load up a full-featured media server that can access my Synology NAS.

Next I hooked up the Musical Fidelity V-Link via USB to the Raspberry Pi to avoid the truly awful analog stage of the computer. Finally I hooked up the Toslink from the V-Link to the Decco Integrated Amp and pure bliss happened.

I'm rediscovering albums that I've forgotten about and jumping from song to song just like I used to in my hardcore two-channel days.

The Raspberry Pi is perfectly suited to this task and the price is insane. Combined with the V-Link (or any DAC, really) you're able to listen to up to 24/192KHz files streamed from a server, via local USB storage, or even via a local RAM disk for the ultimate in reductive componentry.

There's a company out there called HiFiBerry that makes a DAC and a Digital output board for the Raspberry Pi. These add another $40 or $50 respectively but still you're talking about a total investment of a mere $100-$140 for a truly top-end playback device.

I'm currently tapping my toes to one of my favorite old records (Tori Amos 'Boys for Pele') but I'm about to switch over to some files I bought from HDTracks today.
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All of that intrigues me. I have a qnap NAS that is still in the box and have yet to hook up, along with a 5 port switch. My current situation is I don't have enough ports on the airport extreme to wire my whole rack. Instead I want to locate the qnap right above my rack, with the switch that will cut down on cabling running through the ceiling to where the airport extreme is located. It will all be a little time-consuming so it has just been sitting there for a while. I honestly still toy with the idea of a real HTPC but troubleshooting issues is still my main concern. I am truly impressed with your ability to get things like you stated above going so smoothly.

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All of that intrigues me. I have a qnap NAS that is still in the box and have yet to hook up, along with a 5 port switch. My current situation is I don't have enough ports on the airport extreme to wire my whole rack. Instead I want to locate the qnap right above my rack, with the switch that will cut down on cabling running through the ceiling to where the airport extreme is located. It will all be a little time-consuming so it has just been sitting there for a while. I honestly still toy with the idea of a real HTPC but troubleshooting issues is still my main concern. I am truly impressed with your ability to get things like you stated above going so smoothly.
That's nice of you to say. Thanks! I suppose that I've been doing this network stuff for so long that it just comes as second nature to me at this point.

I've really enjoyed my HTPC but even I get annoyed with troubleshooting it. HTPCs and audio servers are certainly a hobby all on their own and you really have to love them to make them work in your home.

Qnap and Synology are both really good vendors. They've tried really hard to make it easy. Take Friday off of work and go play with it, man!
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After watching nearly all of your videos on YouTube a few weeks back, I was wondering when I'd stumble on your AVS thread. Much was learned from your vids - thank you very much!

My favorite feature is your CNC-created wave art... things. Honorable mention to your wife for being so supportive! I can only hope mine will be half as much when I get started on mine.
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After watching nearly all of your videos on YouTube a few weeks back, I was wondering when I'd stumble on your AVS thread. Much was learned from your vids - thank you very much!

My favorite feature is your CNC-created wave art... things. Honorable mention to your wife for being so supportive! I can only hope mine will be half as much when I get started on mine.
Thanks for the compliments! Maybe your wife might enjoy the videos? I kept my wife involved in a lot of the discussion and she's a really handy sort of person anyway so she enjoyed participating in the painting, etc.
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My life has slowed down just enough now that I have time to not only visit the theatre I built but also to work on it a smidge. I talked before about wanting to build a so-called bar row of seating behind the couch.

I found some chairs that I liked but they were surprisingly costly. I set an Amazon alert on them and wouldn't you know it a few months later the chairs were marked down considerably!

I've started construction of a counter behind the couch and I think it's shaping up nicely. I took a LOT of inspiration from these forums!

The construction is 2x4 and a LOT of 3" deck screws. The overall height is 40" from the floor. The countertop will be 36" off the floor to the top. That leaves a nice 4" guard to prevent spilled drinks from getting all over the couch.

The counter is 116" wide and overall 19.5" deep with 16.5" inside clear underneath the counter which is more than enough to accommodate the chairs.

The top will be 1/2" bamboo plywood on top of 1/2" MDF. The bamboo plywood is left over from an old project... It will be cut into three sections. I'm adding a spanning brace but I haven't decided how to do it just yet. I don't want a third leg. Love to hear thoughts.
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pictures of mid span supports, one mine one from another theater.
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pictures of mid span supports, one mine one from another theater.
Fantastic! Thank you!

Another question: I was planning to install a flat cap on the top but it occurred to me that people may be inclined to put drinks down on top which could easily spill. How have you handled that? Do you just let it be or has anyone put a tapered cap on top to prevent people from setting down drinks?
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my back sit at bar is only one level but I had them put a lip on the back so that drinks can't slide forward and off the bar top.
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is that bar attached to the floor in any way? As I remember, the floor under that carpet is concrete?
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is that bar attached to the floor in any way? As I remember, the floor under that carpet is concrete?
The floor beneath the carpet is concrete. I had not planned to attach the bar to the floor. I figured that it would be heavy enough. Thoughts?
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The floor beneath the carpet is concrete. I had not planned to attach the bar to the floor. I figured that it would be heavy enough. Thoughts?
every other bar I've seen has been bolted to a riser or other structure in the room. I have zero experience to offer other than other threads that I have read. Jeff would be the best person to opine on this.
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there is a good chance you won't have any problems using gravity. Having said that your back bar will be top heavy and have a really high center of gravity. If you have any rowdy guests or kids that want to hang on the bar top it may be a hazard. My back bar is secured to the riser in front. You won't know for sure until you get it fully dressed and push on it to see how much force it takes to tip over. Maybe you can leave off a section of the facing until you decide and if required drive a few anchors into the floor.
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I'd say if you are going to have more than three or four inches of overhang on the counter top, you will want in secured to the floor. Depending on how the top is secured to the frame, and how heavy it is, it might feel better (less prone to racking and swaying) if you bolt it down.

I think I would bolt it down.
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You could get one of those shotgun style charged guns and just toss a couple nails right into your subfloor on the side braces and be good. If you were ever to get them back out, the hole through the carpet would likely be minimal if you have higher nap carpeting. I have cuts all over my carpet to run sub cables/extension cord for the seat/etc. When I have pulled the lines, you couldn't even tell

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I'd suggest grabbing a Ramset from Home Depot, along with some 22cal charges and the anchors. under $50 total. Anchor it, just in case. You don't want to take any chances with a platform that's above the heads of the people in the rear row, and that will typically hold items that, if permitted to fall onto the ground in a tilt, could be disastrous to the carpet (food, saucejuice, wives).

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I'd suggest grabbing a Ramset from Home Depot, along with some 22cal charges and the anchors.

Um yea, this is what I was talking about. Much more detailed explanation of the tool. Haha "Shotgun style charged guns" is not on the packaging....

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I didn't work on the project much this week since it was a busy time at work but I've been thinking about support and trying to get away without a third leg.

I cooked up the idea of using Unistrut after seeing some laying around the office. I was considering some angle steel but this stuff was just too good and too inexpensive to pass up.

The Unistrut is through-bolted on 3/8" steel bolts and is holding the weight like a champ.

The span is 112.5" so a 96" piece of plywood underlayment wouldn't work. I wound up using multiple 48" sections to form a stacked overlapping ply that's an inch thick.

I cut all the bamboo pieces and have glued / nailed them into place. Again, the bamboo plywood was only 96" wide so I needed to account for the extra ~16" so I split the difference to center the long piece and added a short piece to each end. I wasn't thrilled with the transition from piece to piece so I embraced it and sliced a 1/2" piece of the end grain to act like a piece of inlay. It looks gorgeous that way. The end grain of this plywood is beautiful.
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The floor beneath the carpet is concrete. I had not planned to attach the bar to the floor. I figured that it would be heavy enough. Thoughts?
I'd definitely secure it to the slab, especially with young kids using the room. I'd get 4 long Tapcons through the bottom plate into the slab and call it a day. Unlike the Ramset nail gun, the Tapcons can be easily backed out with an impact driver.

I see you built a small backsplash into the bar to handle the drink situation, but you could also consider drilling holes through the countertop and retrofitting stainless steel cup inserts as a further safeguard against accidental knocks / spills. For a couple bucks more than the standard inserts, you could get ones that have subtle LED illumination like THIS.

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Ramset purchased! Great suggestion!
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I'd definitely secure it to the slab, especially with young kids using the room. I'd get 4 long Tapcons through the bottom plate into the slab and call it a day. Unlike the Ramset nail gun, the Tapcons can be easily backed out with an impact driver.

I see you built a small backsplash into the bar to handle the drink situation, but you could also consider drilling holes through the countertop and retrofitting stainless steel cup inserts as a further safeguard against accidental knocks / spills. For a couple bucks more than the standard inserts, you could get ones that have subtle LED illumination like THIS.

Keep up the great work!
I like the cup holder suggestion! That's cool. I'm not going to do that at this stage but I will keep that on the upgrade list.
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