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Awesome design and build!  Very impressive.

 

How did you figure out ideal positioning, distance from screen and height of projector.  How high off the ground is your projector (or from ceiling).  Your total height of room from ceiling to floor is 8 feet? -- so approx 2.4 metres?

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Awesome design and build!  Very impressive.
 
How did you figure out ideal positioning, distance from screen and height of projector.  How high off the ground is your projector (or from ceiling).  Your total height of room from ceiling to floor is 8 feet? -- so approx 2.4 metres?
Height is 8'


For ideal positioning, distance from screen and height of projector:

Ideal Positioning: I have the lens of the projector centered to the center of the screen so I do not have to use horizontal lens shift. I have mine on a self so I have room to move a projector if I buy one that does not use a center designed lens.

Distance from Screen: I have the projector back far enough that a vast majority of different projectors can and will fill my screen. I don't have to worry about throw distance for 90% of the projectors out there.

Height of Projector: Using an adjustable shelf system allows me a lot of flexibility, But I places the projector within the screen height and high enough above people heads to cause no shadows on screen. Minimizing vertical lens shift.

How high off the ground is your projector : It can vary on different projector designs, but ~ 6' off the ground.

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Wait....the JVC lights up the 12-footer???
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12 1/2... And yes.

Has to be full open iris and high lamp though for adequate brightness.
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Yup, even more amazinger...and still a favorite.
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Height is 8'


For dista
Height is 8'


For ideal positioning, distance from screen and height of projector:

Ideal Positioning: I have the lens of the projector centered to the center of the screen so I do not have to use horizontal lens shift. I have mine on a self so I have room to move a projector if I buy one that does not use a center designed lens.

Distance from Screen: I have the projector back far enough that a vast majority of different projectors can and will fill my screen. I don't have to worry about throw distance for 90% of the projectors out there.

Height of Projector: Using an adjustable shelf system allows me a lot of flexibility, But I places the projector within the screen height and high enough above people heads to cause no shadows on screen. Minimizing vertical lens shift.

How high off the ground is your projector : It can vary on different projector designs, but ~ 6' off the ground.

 

Thanks for confirming details. I'm a novice so pls bear with the basic questions.

 

Positioning -- I have a distance of about 3.5 metres / 11.5' from where I'd like to place my projector to the wall.  The wall is about 4.7m / 15.4' wide by 3m / 9.8' tall.  Is that enough distance to project onto a wall that size?  and what kind of projector would be best?  with such a short distance and angle (with projector place around 2m / 6.6' from the floor).  I'm assuming there are projectors which can compensate for the angle of projection onto a flat wall?

 

Wall/screen -- I will have a white wall, is this good enough to project on?  is there a special type of paint that I can use that is designed for projectors?  or is a specialised screen like you have better. Though I'd rather not have a screen if I can help it.  Thoughts?

 

Speakers -- I'm thinking very basic. Two in the screen/wall, left and right top corners -- low profile (like 80mm thick -- do they exist?) as my stud wall will be about that depth and white, so they blend into white wall.  And one at the rear (8m / 26.2'). The layout of my room doesn't allow two in the rear corners. But one in the rear will create a triangle. Is that ok, of just a waste of time?  

 

I don't want to spend ten's of thousands on my setup. But do want half decent quality, so will to spend a few $k

 

Any advice appreciated thanks

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Thanks for confirming details. I'm a novice so pls bear with the basic questions.
 
Positioning -- I have a distance of about 3.5 metres / 11.5' from where I'd like to place my projector to the wall.  The wall is about 4.7m / 15.4' wide by 3m / 9.8' tall.  Is that enough distance to project onto a wall that size?  and what kind of projector would be best?  with such a short distance and angle (with projector place around 2m / 6.6' from the floor).  I'm assuming there are projectors which can compensate for the angle of projection onto a flat wall?
 
Wall/screen -- I will have a white wall, is this good enough to project on?  is there a special type of paint that I can use that is designed for projectors?  or is a specialised screen like you have better. Though I'd rather not have a screen if I can help it.  Thoughts?
 
Speakers -- I'm thinking very basic. Two in the screen/wall, left and right top corners -- low profile (like 80mm thick -- do they exist?) as my stud wall will be about that depth and white, so they blend into white wall.  And one at the rear (8m / 26.2'). The layout of my room doesn't allow two in the rear corners. But one in the rear will create a triangle. Is that ok, of just a waste of time?  
 
I don't want to spend ten's of thousands on my setup. But do want half decent quality, so will to spend a few $k
 
Any advice appreciated thanks
You will have to look at the throw ratio's of projectors in your price range. I can't just answer your throw question for you.

If you get a projector that has a good amount of lens shift you should not have to angle the projector at all.

White Wall is fine, but you want to make it as smooth as possible, also some screen materials are designed for specific reasons. If all you want it a giant white wall for a screen, then so be it. You can make it work.

Speakers... Just get what you can afford and like and don't worry about surround sound if you have to make to many compromises to begin with.
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I've been a huge fan of your build ever since I saw it over a year ago. Its easily the coolest I've seen on this site. So, I'm planning a build of my own and was hoping to borrow a few ideas. I've read through your build thread a couple times and I couldn't find the finished dimensions of your theater and was hoping you might divulge.
Again, well done on your HT. It's just completely bad ass!
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I've been a huge fan of your build ever since I saw it over a year ago. Its easily the coolest I've seen on this site. So, I'm planning a build of my own and was hoping to borrow a few ideas. I've read through your build thread a couple times and I couldn't find the finished dimensions of your theater and was hoping you might divulge.
Again, well done on your HT. It's just completely bad ass!
If I remember correctly...

32' length

Width in the larger part

16.5' Width

Width in the smaller part

13.5' Width
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Tony, the theater demo was awesome today. Can't say enough about how well designed the room is and it shows in both the video and acoustical performance. The black interior (everywhere) really makes a huge diffference in video presentation I was also impressed how well two subm's filled the room with bass. Your room does not make any noise even with the lowest frequencies playing at reference. Very impressive! Did I mention the highs with the 212HTR's is sooo good.

Lots of fun, best dedicated theater I have been to yet.
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Theater looks great, nothing to distract from the audio and video...
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Awesomeness is understatement! Great job. What is your room dimension? Building mine soon...22x17...deciding to have The Seymour VistaCurve vs Flat 140 vs 150 wide. Any thoughts about this?
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thats well built! your building site looks so clean, mine looks so messy, i dont have any other storage so everything is in there at the moment.
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very impressive. thank you for sharing.
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I may be getting a Datasat RS20i soon... Wish me luck!
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Planned Spring 2017 audio upgrade:

Pre-Pro:
Datasat RS20i and Dirac Live 2.0 Upgrade Calibration Kit

Amps:
Emotiva XPA 5 Gen2
Emotiva XPA 3 Gen3

Speakers:
JTR Slanted 8 LP's x 4 (Ceiling Speakers)
JTR Captivator 4000ULF x 2 (Subs)



What will be for sale soon:

AV Receiver:
Denon AVR4311CI and Audyssey Pro Calibration Kit

Speakers:
Seaton Submersive HP x 2 (Subs)

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Datasat RS20i Datasheet:

Datasat RS20i Datasheet - Front
Datasat RS20i Datasheet - Back


Datasat RS20i Pictures:

Datasat RS20i - Front
Datasat RS20i - Back


Additional Information:

Datasat Digital Entertainment
Datasat Digital Entertainment Dealer

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Planned Spring 2017 audio upgrade:

Pre-Pro:
Datasat RS20i and Dirac Live 2.0 Upgrade Calibration Kit

Amps:
Emotiva XPA 5 Gen2
Emotiva XPA 3 Gen3

Speakers:
JTR Slanted 8 LP's x 4 (Ceiling Speakers)
JTR Captivator 4000ULF x 2 (Subs)



What will be for sale soon:

AV Receiver:
Denon AVR4311CI and Audyssey Pro Calibration Kit

Speakers:
Seaton Submersive HP x 2 (Subs)
Wow.
Sounds great.

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HT: Oppo UDP-203 -> Lumagen RadiancePro 4446 {18 GHz input x2 & output x1 cards} - parallel outs to --> [Audio: Denon 5308CI] --> [Video: JVC RS520]
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Without reading this entire thread, what is the summary of what you are doing that you won't be completed until spring of next year (another 5 months)? I see the new equipment list, but you must be making some significant room changes as well. What and why? Just curious.
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Without reading this entire thread, what is the summary of what you are doing that you won't be completed until spring of next year (another 5 months)? I see the new equipment list, but you must be making some significant room changes as well. What and why? Just curious.
I take way too long to do things once I start. (OCD/Perfectionist)

AKA I do not want the theater apart for the holidays.

Plus I need to find a good way to mount my atmos/DTS: X ceiling speakers.

Also, Tax Return will offer me the $$$ to afford the new subs.

I only want to take apart the system once and then have it back together again.

I know some people love to swap out gear and tinker with their system... I am not one of them.

I don't even have a way to play a simple blu-ray disk or insert a USB stick into my system - (ATM... Once I get the OPPO 203 I will need to find a nice spot where I can access the Disk tray / USB.)

Everything is transferred over to my 20TB NAS and played back via a physically inaccessible OPPO 103D.

I know it sounds weird to a lot of people but I want a nearly equipmentless look and feel to my theater. Even though I made my Datasat top more visually appealing, no one will be seeing it... That's how anal/OCD I am... LOL

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That's how anal/OCD I am... LOL
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Here is the before and after of the Datasat.

Nothing a little TLC can't fix.
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Wow, was not expecting you to make that shift but that will be awesome!
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Question Thought on new JVC projectors?

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Happy New Year.

Thought on new JVC projectors?

(prices are inverted)


JVC DLA-X5500/X7500/X9500 3 new HT projectors 2017

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
New JVC 4K e-Shift4 Projectors
Deliver Higher Brightness and Contrast, Add Low Latency Mode
LAS VEGAS, January 5, 2017 – JVC today announced a new line of custom installation projectors that delivers higher brightness and contrast, and offers a range of other performance enhancements that combined make the new line the ideal choice for large-screen home theaters.
The new JVC 2017 projector line includes six models that continue to offer highest in-class brightness and the industry’s highest native contrast ratios. Other key enhancements include a new low-latency mode to reduce frame delay for a better video game play experience, and auto-detect HDR picture mode for HDR10 content. All six models offer two full speed 18Gbps HDMI inputs with HDCP2.2 to provide connection to the latest 4K UHD sources with support for up to 4096 x 2160 resolution, including HDR and 4:4:4 color sampling.
JVC’s 2017 projectors are the Procision Series DLA-X970R, DLA-X770R, and DLA-X570R and the Reference Series DLA-RS620, DLA-RS520, and DLA-RS420.
The main features for the new JVC D-ILA projectors are:
1. Highest Brightness In Class* Delivered by a High-Power Lamp
Improved optics in combination with a 265W high-power lamp and the D-ILA device allow the new JVC projectors to produce images with increased brightness compared to previous models.

The JVC D-ILA imaging device has a narrow pixel gap to provide high light efficiency and pixel-free, film-like images. Brightness levels for the new projectors are:

* DLA-X970R/RS620 2,000lm;
* DLA-X770R/RS520 1,900lm;
* DLA-X570R/RS420 1,800lm.



The improved brightness allows the new projectors to deliver clear, bright images on large screens or deliver the additional intensity needed for installations with higher ambient light.
*Class=Custom Installation Projectors USA Priced between $4,000.00 and $10,000.00
2. 18Gbps Full Speed HDMI Inputs with HDCP2.2
To accommodate the expansion of 4K streaming and the availability of next generation Ultra HD Blu-ray players, the new projectors feature the latest HDMI/HDCP2.2 standard on both HDMI inputs. Two HDCP2.2 copy protected devices can be connected at the same time. These HDMI inputs are capable of handling data transfer rates up to 18Gbps, which can deliver full spec native 4K signals such as 4K60p 4:4:4, 4K60p 4:2:2/36bit and 4K24p 4:4:4/36bit. Adding expanded color sampling and higher frame rate capability enables the viewer to enjoy a more visually satisfying movie experience.
3. Industry-leading Contrast Ratio
JVC continues to offer the industry’s leading native contrast ratio of 160,000:1
(DLA-X970R/RS620). This is achieved by the combination of JVC’s optical engine optimized for use with the JVC D-ILA device. JVC’s user-selectable Intelligent Lens Aperture further boosts dynamic contrast to 1,600,000:1 (DLA-X970R/RS620). Native contrast ratios for the new projectors are:

* DLA-X970R/RS620 160,000:1;
* DLA-X770R/RS520 130,000:1
* DLA-X570R/RS420 40,000:1.

4. HDR (High Dynamic Range) Compatibility On All Models
JVC’s inherent high native contrast, expanded color gamut mode* and higher lumen output enable HDR content compatibility, and the 2017 models automatically switch to the HDR picture mode when an HDR10 signal is detected. The new models also offer Hybrid Log-Gamma, a new HDR standard for broadcasts and streaming services.*DLA-X970R/RS620 and DLA-X770R/RS520 only.
5. Improved Multiple Pixel Control
JVC’s original high performance image processing technology, Multiple Pixel Control (MPC), has been improved. With the adoption of a new analysis algorithm based on the DLA-RS4500, MPC is capable of more accurate diagonal detection between frames for both full HD and full 4K resolution signals to deliver an immersive 4K image.
6. Low Latency Mode
The availability of new, high performance gaming consoles is driving development of 4K/HDR games. The new JVC 2017 projectors offer a new low latency mode that delivers a significant reduction in frame delay for improved game play.
7. Evolutionary JVC Proprietary e-shift4 Technology
JVC's e-shift4 technology provides clear 4K precision (3840x2160) images by shifting pixels diagonally 0.5 pixels at rate of up to 120 Hz, multiplying the resolution. JVC’s 2017 projectors further improve clarity with e-shift4 technology that is specifically optimized for the combination of 4K60p compatibility and high brightness.
8. Motion Enhance – Blur Reduction Technology
The new JVC projectors incorporate the company’s Motion Enhance technology, which minimizes motion blur significantly by optimizing the drive of the D-ILA device and works in combination with Clear Motion Drive. Motion Enhance is also compatible with 4K and 3D signals to give a smooth and detailed image for a variety of scenes.
9. THX 3D Certification (DLA-X9700R/RS620, DLA-X770R/RS520)
THX 3D Certified Projectors deliver 3D movie experiences with the stunning clarity, detail and accuracy found in the filmmaker’s studio. Superior 2D performance is also mandatory for THX 3D Display certification. During the THX 3D certification process, more than 400 laboratory tests are conducted for performance on accurate color reproduction, cross talk, viewing angle, video processing, and more. This certification promises the consumer the highest level of quality and performance. As part of THX Certification, the projector features THX viewing modes to deliver exceptional cinema performance right out of the box.
10. Auto Calibration Function* to Optimize the Picture
All 2017 JVC projectors offer an Auto Calibration Function* that can, with the use of a widely available third party optical sensor, automatically calibrate the image to optimize the picture for various environments. In addition, this can also compensate for the changing color balance that occurs with long-term projector usage so the projector can continue to deliver optimal performance.
*To use the Auto Calibration Function a JVC approved optical sensor, exclusive JVC software, PC and LAN cable are required.
11. Control4 SDDP
All 2017 JVC projectors include Control4 SDDP (Simple Device Discovery Protocol) so they can easily be integrated into a Control4 home automation system.
12. ISF Certification
All three JVC projectors offer ISF certification.

Optional Accessories
Lamp PK-L2615U
3D RF Emitter PK-EM2
3D RF Glasses PK-AG3

The 2017 JVC D-ILA projectors are available this month at the following prices:
DLA-X970R/RS620 $3,999.95
DLA-X770R/RS520 $6,999.95
DLA-X570R/RS420 $9,999.95

About JVCKENWOOD USA Corporation
JVCKENWOOD USA Corporation is a wholly-owned subsidiary of JVCKENWOOD Corporation and is a leading developer of imaging, home and car entertainment and navigation products for the consumer market, two-way radio communications systems for public safety, private industry and amateur users, and video equipment for the broadcast and professional markets. For detailed information, call JVCKENWOOD USA at 1-800-950-5005 or visit us at http://us.jvckenwood.com, www.kenwoodusa.comand www.jvc.com.

Main Specifications
MODEL
DLA-X970R/RS620
DLA-X770R/RS520
DLA-X570R/RS420
Brightness*
2,000m
1,900lm
1,800lm
Contrast Ratio
Dynamic
1,600,000:1
1,300,000:1
400,000:1
Native
160,000:1
130,000:1
40,000:1
e-shift4 Technology
Yes
Full Speed 18Gbps HDMI/HDCP2.2
(Both Inputs)
Yes
HDR (High Dynamic Range)
Yes
Resolution
3840×2160 Precision
(1,920×1,080 in 3D mode)
THX Certified/ISF c3 Licensed
Yes
N/A
Projection Display Size
60 inch - 200 inch (diagonal)
*The average value taken from each model’s default factory setting.

HT: Oppo UDP-203 -> Lumagen RadiancePro 4446 {18 GHz input x2 & output x1 cards} - parallel outs to --> [Audio: Denon 5308CI] --> [Video: JVC RS520]
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Happy New Year.

Thought on new JVC projectors?

(prices are inverted)


JVC DLA-X5500/X7500/X9500 3 new HT projectors 2017
They are minor upgrades to last years models hence the minor change in naming as well.

I will like always update still as I like to somewhat maintain resale value of my previous projector.
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Really nice setup. Excuse me if this was discussed, I'm wondering what your throw distance is. I'm looking at the JVC lineup but might be constrained with a max throw of 17'.
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Really nice setup. Excuse me if this was discussed, I'm wondering what your throw distance is. I'm looking at the JVC lineup but might be constrained with a max throw of 17'.
My throw is about 23-24 feet.
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