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Home Theater 2017 Update has begun.

First step is rearranging and reconfiguring my surrounds and rears for a more cohesive and immersive surround experience.

Going to angle the surrounds and rear towards the MLP
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Home Theater 2017 Update has begun.

First step is rearranging and reconfiguring my surrounds and rears for a more cohesive and immersive surround experience.

Going to angle the surrounds and rear towards the MLP
You may have mentioned it, but are you doing Atoms for audio?
If so, speakers that shoot up or ceiling installs?

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Rather than angling, have you thought about two sets of side surrounds more optimally placed for each row? Having them lower would help with Atmos too.

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looks great, about to post my own setup
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Rather than angling, have you thought about two sets of side surrounds more optimally placed for each row? Having them lower would help with Atmos too.
I have, but due to restraints in room width and were my door is. Nothing would work optimally unfortunately.

I also dont use the second row very often and would even do a preset to lower the back speakers down as not to blow the peopl away sitting under them.
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When I originally added Atmos to my system, my side and rear surrounds were about 6 feet off the ground. I lowered them (pain in the rear to modify the columns they were in) to about 45 inches above the ground and the immersion affect was dramatically increased. Just an FYI.

Had my ceiling been something like 10 feet high (or maybe even 9 feet) I don't think it would have made as much difference - but my ceilings are 7'11".
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When I originally added Atmos to my system, my side and rear surrounds were about 6 feet off the ground. I lowered them (pain in the rear to modify the columns they were in) to about 45 inches above the ground and the immersion affect was dramatically increased. Just an FYI.

Had my ceiling been something like 10 feet high (or maybe even 9 feet) I don't think it would have made as much difference - but my ceilings are 7'11".
I know... Also same... 7' 11"

One of the main things I would have changed in my system is the way the second row was done. I would likely not have done a second row to be honest. Too much compromise needs to be done do to accommodate it in my home environment where more space would have been needed.
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I know... Also same... 7' 11"

One of the main things I would have changed in my system is the way the second row was done. I would likely not have done a second row to be honest. Too much compromise needs to be done do to accommodate it in my home environment where more space would have been needed.
When we did this theater, the intent was to add a second row, as there is plenty of room. Why? Because I thought the room would have "looked better" .... and I'm so OCD that the more uniform placement of the seats would have soothed my disease. We would have put 3 new seat in the front row and moved the current 4 to the back row.

But after we lived here for a while, we realized that 99% of the time we have 4 people at the most. Those times we don't are usually for major sporting events (e.g. Super Bowl) and then the women end up using our family room and the men are in the theater - so 4 seats is still enough.

That said, it still would have looked better but we won't be adding another row. Use that money (seats, risers, etc) to buy other A/V stuff!!
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One of the main things I would have changed in my system is the way the second row was done. I would likely not have done a second row to be honest. Too much compromise needs to be done do to accommodate it in my home environment where more space would have been needed.
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...after we lived here for a while, we realized that 99% of the time we have 4 people at the most. Those times we don't are usually for major sporting events (e.g. Super Bowl) and then the women end up using our family room and the men are in the theater - so 4 seats is still enough. That said, it still would have looked better but we won't be adding another row. Use that money (seats, risers, etc) to buy other A/V stuff!!
YES! Time and time again I see builds compromising the layout for all seats to squeeze in a second, or even third row. Great if you are hosting an AVS meet (though everyone is just waiting for their turn in the money seat anyway) or maybe a sporting event, but it has never been my experience that a large group of people actually wants to sit and watch a movie. They would much rather eat and socialize.
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it has never been my experience that a large group of people actually wants to sit and watch a movie. They would much rather eat and socialize.
Interesting you would say that. On more than one occasion, even when we had 1 other couple over to watch a movie, they would end up talking during the whole thing. I'm not sure we could find enough couples to sit in a 7 or 8 seat theater to keep their mouths shut !!
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Work on my Atmos ceiling mounts (base plates) are coming along nicely.

How I am going to mount my Atmos speakers.

2' X 2' MDF 1/2 Inch thick MDF board that will be screwed directly into the first floor joists using eight 2 1/2 inch coarse threaded screws per base plate.

1. Buy four 2' X 2' MDF 1/2 Inch thick MDF boards - Done
2. Layout where I want my speaker mounting holes - Done
3. Drill out the mounting holes and a recess for a nut and bolt locking system - Done
4. Drill a center circle hole for speaker terminal connections - Done
5. Cut a channel to the center circle hole for speaker wire runs - Done

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Wrap the base plates in a black fabric.
Mount the base to ceiling.
Wire speaker cable to center hole.
Mount Speaker to base plate.
Install L bracket in back so the speaker can not shake loose.
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Work on my Atmos ceiling mounts (base plates) are coming along nicely.

How I am going to mount my Atmos speakers.

2' X 2' MDF 1/2 Inch thick MDF board that will be screwed directly into the first floor joists using eight 2 1/2 inch coarse threaded screws per base plate.

1. Buy four 2' X 2' MDF 1/2 Inch thick MDF boards - Done
2. Layout where I want my speaker mounting holes - Done
3. Drill out the mounting holes and a recess for a nut and bolt locking system - Done
4. Drill a center circle hole for speaker terminal connections - Done
5. Cut a channel to the center circle hole for speaker wire runs - Done

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Wrap the base plates in a black fabric.
Mount the base to ceiling.
Wire speaker cable to center hole.
Mount Speaker to base plate.
Install L bracket in back so the speaker can not shake loose.
Cool.
I was thinking of an Atmos AVR and adding speakers, but am no longer that ambitious.
If I was building a new HT I would plan for current and future Atmos configurations -- maybe a false/drop ceiling with capability for mounting and wire management.
My 7.1 HT design is showing it's 2007 planning and 2009 implementation age.

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Glad to hear it isn't just me. My wife had visions of fitting the neighbourhood down there with bean bag chairs and sofas. For 90% of the movies her and I watch she's sleeping before the trailers end.
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Sowk,

Glad to see you are going object based surround, it is truly worth it. Best upgrade I have ever done other then going with a Seaton I have 8 foot ceilings and made that decision on our house build only a month before I had heard of Atmos and all. I probably had the time left to have that changed but thought to myself ...oh it will be fine. What a mistake that was. My next theater will have at least 10foot ceilings. Next theater.... yeah, who am I kidding. I don't think I could go through that again I would just pay someone to build it.

Anyways, you have a gem of a theater and I will be following your new build upgrade again Just try and keep that OCD thing in its place.....it can be a good thing but it can also lead to heartache when taken to far. Oh, and I would agree on the extra back row seating thing, I made mine easily removable because I was not sure where it might go nor if I wanted or needed one. To date, 99.999999999% me and the wife, 0.0000000001% family or friends in the theater. I think I have about made that decision.
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Added some floor to ceiling bass traps in my first L cove corners to stop any unwanted front speaker reflections from getting back into the room.

http://www.gikacoustics.com/product/...tics-tri-trap/
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JTR Captivator 4000ULF's Behind the screenwall.


Quick dirty placement and quick dirty measurement has the +/- 3dB at 7.5 hz in room.
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JTR Captivator 4000ULF's Behind the screenwall.


Quick dirty placement and quick dirty measurement has the +/- 3dB at 7.5 hz in room.
Looks great!
Measures great.
I'm sure sounds great.

Give us some aural impressions.

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