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Dedicated Theater Design & Construction > Rich'z Nightmare Basement build
BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 10:18 AM 05-07-2011

Hey, I'm Rich, but yet, so broke confused.gif

I have a creepy basement I'm trying to finish and I really want a theater Room.

 


Pre-Build :

 

- Clean out basement
- Remove oil tank

- Pressure wash

- Jack up old french drain
- Install NEW french drain / waterproofing

- NEW concrete
- Upgrade electric panel / wiring

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BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 10:19 AM 05-07-2011
Here's my Federal Pacific


My outside service looks old and unsafe as well.

cybrsage's Avatar cybrsage 10:36 AM 05-07-2011
Wow, you have a lot of work ahead of you. It will be MUCH MUCH nicer when you are done. Changing it from the place where an axe murderer stores the bodies to a fun place will be great! Keep up updated on your progress.
petew's Avatar petew 12:13 PM 05-07-2011
YIKES!
That electrical is a mess. Needs to be replaced with something modern and safe.

Don't underestimate the cost and complexity of this project. Do you have experience with structural construction? If not, better call in a pro.

Looks like you have about 6'6" clear under the HVAC duct. Are you going to drop the floor level? Another huge undertaking with serious structural considerations.
RTROSE's Avatar RTROSE 12:36 PM 05-07-2011
Hello and welcome!

I will be watching your progress with much interest as you have a lot of work ahead of you.

Updating the electrical is a MUST for safety and piece of mind for sure.

Water proofing and having a plan for that (which you have it sounds like) is another must for an enjoyable space as no one likes to sit in a cold, damp, musty basement.

As another poster suggested you have a lot of work ahead, if you are unsure of how to proceed please consult the wide ranging knowledge base here and the "true professionals" in your local area.

I'm glad you have the hang of posting photos, however you might want to consider resizing them so they fit within the screen so us lazy guys don't have to scroll from side to side.

Good luck and keep us updated.

Regards,

RTROSE
BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 04:47 PM 05-07-2011
Thanks for the welcome

I definitely plan on using Pro's for everything that is out of my league.

One thing for sure, I'm tired of having to shop vac water after every rain (every other day)


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Originally Posted by petew View Post

Looks like you have about 6'6" clear under the HVAC duct. Are you going to drop the floor level? Another huge undertaking with serious structural considerations.

very close, it's just clearing 6' 3"

I planned on just busting up the perimeter concrete and replacing the drain tile & rocks that was installed 30+ years ago.
The concrete floor is "dusting" really bad from the years of moister, so I was considering breaking up & re-pouring the entire floor back to original height.
...but I'm still undecided, and going to contact a pro on that as well.
petew's Avatar petew 06:33 PM 05-07-2011
0.14" of rain so far this year. As my drunk friend Marvin says, "driern' a popcorn fart".
andymo's Avatar andymo 08:08 PM 05-07-2011
Yikes - that panel is the scariest thing I've seen in a while ...
BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 06:56 PM 05-12-2011
Ran into this guy today, he asked why his cable's been out?



I said maybe it was one of the random old wires I ripped out yesterday, then killed him



...the basement is now empty, except for the oil tank, but I found a dude that will pump & remove it
so I'm calling him, and a few Electric company's to come give estimates/quotes.
fotto's Avatar fotto 07:20 PM 05-12-2011
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Originally Posted by BIG RICH View Post
Ran into this guy today, he asked why his cable's been out?
I said maybe it was one of the random old wires I ripped out yesterday, then killed him
LOL. Nasty little bugger deserved it. The WAF bellowed (and she can bellow) to me yesterday evening from the bedroom "THERE's A SPIDER ON THE CEILING". Walked in and it's right above the ceiling fan, little black nasty one. So I grabbed a fly swatter and after the third swipe I think I got it but it fell into the fan housing. Of course, that wasn't good enough "I WANT TO SEE IT, YOU DIDN'T GET IT!" I assured her after turning on the fan it was fried but the doubt lingered. Wasn't anything more to do.

Moral? Kill it, mount it, display it. Makes for a much more peaceful existence.

Good luck with the build BTW.
BllDo's Avatar BllDo 07:26 AM 05-13-2011
Congrats, this should be fun to watch. Keep the pics coming (unless you find some of that little guys relatives, don't need to see that.)
Dixon's Avatar Dixon 08:14 AM 05-13-2011
Ahh yes, those pics bring back memories of my own build.

Don't be discouraged by the task ahead (doesn't sound like you are). I am sure you already saw for yourself, but there are a lot of amazing rooms on this forum that started out as low-ceiling, dingy basements with equally frightening electrical panels, etc.

My room isn't in the same class as most of the rooms on this forum, but my basement certainly started out about as daunting as any other.

Good luck. Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 09:01 AM 05-13-2011
Thanks guy's, 'tiz very scary down there, I don't see light at the end of the tunnel but I have a flashlight (this forum)

Dixon, your thread, PERFECT for me, Thank you so much!!!!
I've been seeing these things in my mind, you've given me real images!
carboranadum's Avatar carboranadum 10:49 AM 05-13-2011
It surely looks like an interesting build.

If you are able, drop the floor down and gain some headroom (it sounds so easy, I know!). And please, please, post photos of that electrical service once it's fixed up. That dude looks really scary (much more so than that spider, IMHO).
premiertrussman's Avatar premiertrussman 11:01 AM 05-13-2011
nightmare is right....poor electric, low headroom, and water ta' boot. I wish you the best of luck sir. If you decide to re pour the floor, you really should considering lowering it....Depending on the footers, you maybe be able to gain a few inches without having to underpin the foundation at all, and in the HT world, inches can make all the difference.
Tedd's Avatar Tedd 06:17 PM 05-13-2011
You could gain some headroom by redoing the ductwork sheet metal. A wider / less tall profile could gain you four inches or so.

You might consider underpinning a section of the basement, and use the original floor height as riser.

If you repour the floor, perhaps a perimeter drain system like Waterguard?

http://www.clarkebasementsystems.com/WaterGuard.aspx
switchg3ar's Avatar switchg3ar 08:22 PM 05-13-2011
If you are going to bust it open to replace the weeping tile I suggest you dig down a bit to see where your footing ends. It looks like you have at least another 1/2 block. If there is another block beyond that 1/2 block before you hit your footing and you are up for real back breaking work you can drop your basement without having to underpin. There are some other factors involved and you would need to look into ie static pressure of the earth pushing on the blocks. It's cheaper then underpinning and you can do it yourself but I warn you it is backbreaking work.

I also noticed that you have a wood beam under the joists. You could replace that with a few inline LVL's and you would gain some head room and move that jack post over.
ADDUpstate's Avatar ADDUpstate 04:55 AM 05-14-2011
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Originally Posted by fotto View Post

LOL. Nasty little bugger deserved it. The WAF bellowed (and she can bellow) to me yesterday evening from the bedroom "THERE's A SPIDER ON THE CEILING". Walked in and it's right above the ceiling fan, little black nasty one. So I grabbed a fly swatter and after the third swipe I think I got it but it fell into the fan housing. Of course, that wasn't good enough "I WANT TO SEE IT, YOU DIDN'T GET IT!" I assured her after turning on the fan it was fried but the doubt lingered. Wasn't anything more to do.

Moral? Kill it, mount it, display it. Makes for a much more peaceful existence.

Good luck with the build BTW.


My wife is the SAME way. If she doesn't see it dead, it isn't dead.

That reminds me of a funny story... A couple of years ago, she was coming up from the basement in our old house, and I hear the laundry basket drop, and she screams. I called over to her to see what the problem was, and she said "There's a big F-ing spider on the wall." So I get up, and start walking over, muttering something to her about what a baby she is, and when I turned the corner, there was a HUGE Corn Spider hanging from the safety chain on our back door. I almost $hit myself. So big, you'd use your foot, not just a tissue. I have never questioned her or razzed her about spiders ever again.
BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 05:15 PM 05-19-2011

I plan to update/organize my entire house's voice/data/cable distribution, so I got this stuff super cheap on eBay

 

 


50' Carlon Resi-Guard


BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 09:18 PM 01-16-2013
It's been a long time since I posted, I started everything back when I was laid off from work.

Since then, I was called back to work, so time in the basement was gone!

I work in commercial construction...

Materials are often "over ordered" then just thrown away when left on-site, at end of job.

All this was free. . .

4' x 8' 3" Foamular250


4' x 8' 1" Foamular250


2' x 4' 2" Roxul


1" OC 703


2 - 50' MiraDrain Rolls


2 x 6 's - 10' & 12'


Flex Clad Wrap


J-hooks


2 - 100' Rolls Husky 6mm Poly


6", 8", 12" Insulated Flexible Ducting


Windows were free, since I work for a window company




Here's one installed in my test corner

BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 09:18 PM 01-16-2013
Removing the ol' oil tank!

Here she is getting pumped wink.gif


Dude's pump rig



Almost empty!



She gone!


BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 09:19 PM 01-16-2013
With my budget being tight, I was forced to keep the old slab, just replace the interior french drain system.

I did it all myself, by hand, using




Here's where I first started breaking ground



Found your problem right here mam!



Went around and busted the whole perimeter





Getting the trench all cleaned out











Made a purchase, 100' roll of drain & sump basin




alittletank's Avatar alittletank 01:19 PM 01-17-2013
you picked up a lot of good freebees! I know some guys who not only had to search for that 703 but had to overpay to get it.
jbpj's Avatar jbpj 02:03 PM 01-17-2013
Wow..that is a LOT of work. I hope everything works out well for you smile.gif
BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 07:39 PM 01-17-2013
Next step, sealing her up.




BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 09:50 PM 03-09-2013
I had to do this for my system to run solid thru, plus freshen up that section of stack.






Got all the stone, free from work biggrin.gif






Ran the 1" insulation all the way around










Installed the dimpled membrane







6mm vapor barrier





Here's what 50 - 80Lb. SAKRETE's look like eek.gif



I did the concrete, mixed by hand of course.






BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 09:52 PM 03-09-2013
scored some 2 x 4 's from work


domz777's Avatar domz777 10:34 PM 03-09-2013
You get all this stuff from work and you install, ...windows?

Where do you install 'em, at Home Depots? LOL jk biggrin.gif

I was a mechanic for 15 yrs before I switched to doing HT murals and computers, and never
once in all that time did I ever get a free tool, or tire, or even a lousy pine tree air freshener LOL
Guess I shoulda did windows instead - seems to be a lot more swag LOL

All kiddin aside, helluva job on the mason work! helluva job! And the prep work was very
thorough, that's the real key to a good job, a fact you clearly understand very well.

It's easy to see due to the quality and caliber of your work, that this is gunna be 1 sweet room
when your done.
BIG RICH's Avatar BIG RICH 08:31 AM 03-10-2013
Thanks for the comment, everyday I've got my eye out for stuff.

I check dumpster's on site, or make friends with contractors

and when you have crates this big, wood is endless.






petew's Avatar petew 09:58 AM 03-10-2013
Those are WINDOWS!

Your basement progress is looking great.
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