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You guys got any suggestions for wall mounts for Volt 8 surrounds? I'm not sure what they way, but it's certainly more than a Bose bookshelf I've been thinking it would be nice to be able to adjust the downward angle without worrying about the top-heavy slanted enclosure falling off a shelf. That and I'm kinda tired of sanding MDF

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When I was originally thinking of going the DIY route with these speakers, I was thinking about the same thing. The best I could come up with was to use a piano hinge on the bottom, cut to the width of the speaker, to function as a hinged support bracket. Then attach some screw eyes to both the back (or side) of the speaker and the wall. Then you could use standard picture hanger wire through the screw eyes and wound back on itself to get the exact downward angle you need. Plus it is cheap and very easy to adjust.

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This is one of the reasons I don't want flat packs. It's a bespoke theater - give it custom speakers.
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Thanks, Tim! I'm hoping for something with as little DIY as possible. I'm planning for this to be a pseudo-temporary solution. So I don't want to invest a lot of time into it if possible.
@HopefulFred , this sort of goes along with the above, but I'm trying to ease myself into the speaker building business. Since I've never built a speaker before, the flat packs seemed like a good way to get going. I'm glad I did because I would have certainly made some rookie mistakes otherwise. I'd like to custom build a full set of speakers at some point. I might even look into my own crossover design if I can't get one of the guys that visit the DIY thread to take on the challenge. I think it would be fun, but I just don't have the knowledge or experience at this point.

The other thing about the brackets is I'm coming to realize that I don't mind the naughty bits showing in my theater. Speaker wires don't bother me as long as they are made to look like they are a professionally terminated. Seeing the speakers doesn't bother me either. Most of the theaters I've been in have the speakers right out in the open anyway. If I can figure out a way to make it look clean, I may still leave my treatments out for everyone to see. I've been going back and forth on that for a while, and I only have a few nagging issues that I would need to get worked out.

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Treatments visable for the win...
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Especially if it looks like this, which I'm sure it will...

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That actually looks pretty ^

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Well thanks for setting the bar so high Bildo! That's not exactly what I have in mind. Nyal may veto it anyway.

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Well thanks for setting the bar so high Bildo! That's not exactly what I have in mind. Nyal may veto it anyway.
Ah, sorry. Forgot you had Nyal working his magic in your space. He does seem to like the Auralex panels up a little higher than that photo shows. So forget that one. I think this one would definitly be Nyal approved.


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Yeah.... That's better......

Careful or I will revoke your image posting privileges in my thread

I'm struggling with the aesthetics issue. The Auralex panels are plastic, and I'm not sure if they will look like cheap plastic after they are painted. I like the look of them, but I don't want it to look cheap when it's all done. There's no way way it will look as nice as either of those two posts, but I think it would be nice to do something different than the other theaters on the boards. I'm not very good at this sort aesthetics business

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I've been in 24 Changer's theater which has painted Auralex plastic diffusers. They don't look bad at all....in fact, they look bad a$$.

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Those two pics look awesome with everything exposed. I so don't have the balls to do that. Lol. I really would like to but I would be shaking at the end of the day with my ocd if it didn't look perfect.
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Exposed !

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BTW, there has been progress! But I came up about two gallons short, and I need another coat...... I did have help, though! My lovely wife likes to paint And my dog likes to eat paint Most of what you see in this picture is just primer.


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I'm struggling with the aesthetics issue. The Auralex panels are plastic, and I'm not sure if they will look like cheap plastic after they are painted. I like the look of them, but I don't want it to look cheap when it's all done. ...
i did 3 or 4 coats of black spray paint, then painted the ceiling black. they dont look like the wood ones, but they dont look cheap either. grant it, mine are on the ceiling, i think you'll be able to achieve a nice cohesive between wall color and quadfusors. that is if you go w/ paint and exposed
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Today I passed another major milestone. I passed both my final electrical and my final building inspection. I was expecting to have to schedule another final room inspection after the electrical, but my inspector remembered my room and what I was doing. He went ahead and looked at everything while he was here. The only thing that nearly caused a hiccup was the LV transformer for my LED rope lighting. It's wired up on HV side, but I've just capped the LV side with wire nuts. Once I explained it was only 12 V out, he was fine with it.

I know a lot of builders on here have had issues with their local codes enforcement, but I've got to say that my local department has been great to work with. They've always been willing to answer my questions and listen to what I was doing and offer helpful advice.

So, to celebrate, I decided to pull an old friend out of storage



After carrying that thing down two flights of stairs, I was seriously questioning my idea of a "celebration!" Any suggestions on how many rack spaces to leave open between this one and the next one?

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Was it "Red Tag" Jim that did the inspection?
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Was it "Red Tag" Jim that did the inspection?
Haha! No. Not 'ol "Red Tag"

Did you have issues with your electrical inspection? From what I understand, Michael Allen has a good relationship with the inspectors in town.

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Haha! No. Not 'ol "Red Tag"

Did you have issues with your electrical inspection? From what I understand, Michael Allen has a good relationship with the inspectors in town.
No issues here. Luckily Jim was apparently in a good mood that day. I believe Michael has a good relationship with everyone. lol
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BTW, there has been progress! But I came up about two gallons short, and I need another coat...... I did have help, though! My lovely wife likes to paint And my dog likes to eat paint Most of what you see in this picture is just primer.


Wow...........................

Your misses has no paint in her hair..................face............clothes..... .....................

Mine would be covered in paint...........................I tend to keep her away from the stuff!

BTW....................GET HER A STEP LADDER!!!!!!
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Coming along very nicely! Glad to see you went with Nyal on the acoustic design
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After carrying that thing down two flights of stairs, I was seriously questioning my idea of a "celebration!" Any suggestions on how many rack spaces to leave open between this one and the next one?
Very nice! Sherbourn recomends two spaces above and one below.
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Sherbourn recomends two spaces above and one below.
Sherbourn recommends just one rack U above the amplifier. Underneath, the feet height of 3/4" is the recommended minimum if you're just sitting it on a rack shelf. If you've removed the feet for rack mounting, then 1U underneath is what you need. Page 4 of the manual HERE. But if you have the additional rack space, then give it a bit more room.

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it's always nice passing inspections. inspections in our town are always interesting. my plumber had his pass stickers on my site when we built before he did the work. i remember i got my occupancy permit with all the tails still in the garage cause we "just didn't get to it yet". but then i did my back porch and he was suddenly an engineer who wanted a thicker LVL for the spans I was doing and wanted to see larger lags to hold the weight going through the brick into the house. It was all very amusing. Funny it's been 5 years and he still hasn't come back to make sure it was done properly.

good luck moving along. that amp looks like a beast.

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A question for you guys. I ordered these for mounting my surrounds



Any suggestions for how to mount them to the walls? Now that I'm eliminating the columns, at least for now, I'll need to mount my speakers to the drywall. For those of you just tuning in, it's clips+channel+DDW+GG. The chances of a channel being where I need it is slim to none.

I've thought about using a 12"x12" square of 3/4 MDF glued and screwed to the wall and then attaching the speaker mount to that. I still haven't decided what to use for fasteners, though.

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Toggle bolts are going to have the highest ultimate pullout strength. With that much GWB a 1/4" bolt will have well over 400 lbs of capacity.

I am not sure a screw through the bracket into a piece of MDF would have that much capacity.

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Toggle bolts.... I haven't used those in quite a while. That certainly seems like the most obvious choice (now that you mention it)

I'll have to layout my speaker mounting positions and see how it will work. Thanks for the suggestion!

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A question for you guys. I ordered these for mounting my surrounds

Any suggestions for how to mount them to the walls? Now that I'm eliminating the columns, at least for now, I'll need to mount my speakers to the drywall. For those of you just tuning in, it's clips+channel+DDW+GG. The chances of a channel being where I need it is slim to none.

I've thought about using a 12"x12" square of 3/4 MDF glued and screwed to the wall and then attaching the speaker mount to that. I still haven't decided what to use for fasteners, though.
Togglers... snaptoggles. Easier and stronger than the classic toggle bolts.

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Interesting. I've seen those things, but never used them. They look to be quick and easier than using a regular toggle. I'll have to take a look at their ratings.

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