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post #511 of 545 Old 05-22-2014, 12:15 AM
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Hi,

Happy to answer any questions but I couldn't seem to find one in there ! smile.gif

Cheers,

LOL I don't know where to start. I'm about to fly out for work but when I get back Ill definitely hit you up. Thanks mate!!!
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Wow, I don't even know where to begin. It turned out excellent, ... the aesthetic is right up my alley! The relative dimensions, scale of each element to one another ... just perfect.


I'm curious what some of your impressive demonstration materials are?

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Wow, I don't even know where to begin. It turned out excellent, ... the aesthetic is right up my alley! The relative dimensions, scale of each element to one another ... just perfect.


I'm curious what some of your impressive demonstration materials are?
Thanks FOH.

My demos are normally music only and I always start with plain old CD -

Peter Gabriel + Kate Bush - Don't Give Up
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Sarah McLachlan - various tracks
Moby - various tracks
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Steve Miller Band - I Want to Make the World Turn Around
Harry Connick Jr - She

Then it's onto music in surround -

Steely Dan - Gaucho - this is a DTS encoded CD
Steve Miller Band - Fly Like an Eagle - also a DTS encoded CD
Jeff Wayne - War of the Worlds - SACD (this is probably the single best surround sound mix I've ever heard)
Pink Floyd - DSOTM - Blu-ray + WYWH - Blu-ray

And finally concerts on DVD or Blu-ray -

Pink
Jesse Cook
Supertramp
Boz Scaggs
Eagles
Fleetwood Mac
Spandau Ballet
Bee Gees

Plus lot's more I can't think of right now.

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Fantastic! What a professional job. Well done, Peter.
And...thank you for the journey.

When I'm in my HT, I'm not even in my home.
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Hi! Peter

Do you have an HVAC system running in the theater? couldn't find any information about it.
How hot is it inside the theater in the summer?
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When we built the house we included three separate ducted AC systems. Upstairs, downstairs and theatre. The theatre system is way OTT for the room but it was the smallest available that had the features we wanted.

The fan coil unit for the theatre is located well away in the main house roof space and uses over-sized flexible acoustic ducts for supply and return air, connected to over-sized gratings in the soffits.

The end result is totally silent and below the noise floor of the measuring equipment that my calibrator used !

I think the room would be overly hot in both summer and winter without the AC.

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I can vouch for the silence and effectiveness of this ac system. Huge air flow and not a sound. Overkill for the room but then the whole room is over the top.

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You were bumped because I just read the whole thread. Nice job. Super clean.
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Peter:

I must say that if I could start over on the cosmetics (and attendant treatments) in my room, it would look as much like your as possible - color scheme included. Both my wife and I love it. Crisp, clean, stylish!! Very Nice job.

By the way, this is what I am getting for my LCR's to replace the Catalyst::

http://www.triadspeakers.com/products/irplcr.html

Surrounds (to replace the Sparks): http://www.triadspeakers.com/products/irsmon.html

Still evaluating amps but probably going for: M3-4000-7 (7 channels) 3 x 800w, 4x 400w by d-sonic

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I copied his quite a bit, short maybe $50k in price. Let's just say I take advantage of the fact that the lights remain off most of the time, and then our theaters look similar :-)
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I copied his quite a bit, short maybe $50k in price. Let's just say I take advantage of the fact that the lights remain off most of the time, and then our theaters look similar :-)
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On mobile so hard to post, but here is the thread

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/19-dedicated-theater-design-construction/1489434-rocco-s-theater-room-construction.html
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Thanks for the very kind comments guys.

Chuck,

Did you consider keeping the Seaton's until you're happy with the Triads as an upgrade ? All the Triads I've heard have been very nice, but I've not heard the Plat's. Word is that they are epic, so I'm keen to hear your comparison. Will you have both in the room ?

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Did you consider keeping the Seaton's until you're happy with the Triads as an upgrade ? All the Triads I've heard have been very nice, but I've not heard the Plat's. Word is that they are epic, so I'm keen to hear your comparison. Will you have both in the room ?

Cheers,
I will probably have them in my home at the same time but no realistic way to compare them. I have heard the Platinum’s and Silver Monitors in another AVS member’s home (CraigJohn) just a few weeks ago. I flew up to Philadelphia to hear them (got stuck on the turnpike for 3 hours in an ice storm). I knew in the first 10 seconds that I wanted them. LOVED the midrange. They are VERY dynamic; highly efficient (94db); big sound, very clean; there is actually more MDF inside the cabinet for bracing than there is on the outside.

This trade has nothing to do with the sound of the Seaton System. I love it and have sold a lot of products for Mark from folks coming into my home (from Tennessee and South Carolina and other places). I have a friend who has a 2-channel system that cost TEN TIMES what I have in 2 Cats, 2 SubMersives, and a preprocessor. He has told me that he believes my system is 85% to 90% of his !!! And I agree.

A set of circumstances came together that allowed me to purchase these speakers at a once in a lifetime price, so I decided to give it a go. Given what I heard a few weeks ago, I am sure I will not be disappointed.

I wish I had never looked at your room. I can’t get it out of my brain. I really would love to have seen it before I did this room. Oh well. Cosmetically I don’t match up but the sound in this room is incredible. Many thanks to Glenn Kuras of GIK Acoustics. He worked very closely with me (his company is in Atlanta). The only thing I am not wild about is that I am on the second floor (as I think you are) and not in a basement like in the home where you visited. There is no way to keep this room still when 4 SubMersives decide to speak – and it has taken some getting used to.

Once I get everything up and running and some serious calibration work, I will provide some feedback. I hope to have the speakers within 2 weeks.

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One more thing: What are the fabric colors of the panels and the columns?

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Chuck,

My fabric was sourced locally from RIM Fabrics in Melbourne. It's called Trilogy One

The wall panels are Ocean, the column covers are Cobalt and the screen surround is Oxide.

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Chuck,

My fabric was sourced locally from RIM Fabrics in Melbourne. It's called Trilogy One

The wall panels are Ocean, the column covers are Cobalt and the screen surround is Oxide.

Cheers,
Thanks. I'm trying to get the guy from GIK acoustics to come by and see how I can get my room to look a bit like yours (not as tall or long or wide) without messing up the acoustic treatment that is already in place!!

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Thanks. I'm trying to get the guy from GIK acoustics to come by and see how I can get my room to look a bit like yours (not as tall or long or wide) without messing up the acoustic treatment that is already in place!!
Wow didn't know they do house calls!
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Wow didn't know they do house calls!
They don't normally.

But (a) they are located in Atlanta and (b) I have spent a bunch of money with them [some in my last home and a bunch more in this home]; (c) they normally only sell panels added on to a room and in my case, they designed the room and all of the acoustic treatment, (d) I've hooked them up with a local very high end home theater company to do all of their treatments and (e) I've gotten them connected to a custom builder who is building a multi-million dollar home with nice HT (close to 5 figure acoustic job and that theater will be replicatd in every home built by that builder).

All of that said, there is no assurance they will come!!

If you go to their Facebook page, you will see some of their installs scrolling across the top and my old theater is one of them.

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This theater is amazing! Can you provide a little more detail on the wall panels? This is EXACTLY what I want to do. But having the entire theater covered in panels seems a little daunting. But I want to do it, I want it look as perfect as yours...oh and I want to do it as cheaply as possible lol. Cheers!

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All of my panels are 2" thick. Unlike a lot of the panels you'll see on AVS mine are rounded rather than chamfered. To do this I bought a bullnose shaped skirting profile 2" deep x 3/4" thick. This is relatively skinny in the direction of the fabric tension so each panel has cross members to keep the long sides at the correct spacing. The cross members are 1" deep x 3/4" thick and align with the back of the panel. Each panel has 2 or 3 cross members depending on the panel size.

All the panels have two layers of 1" fiberglass in them, in different combinations of density and with heavy plastic sheet in different locations within the panels. The back layer of fiberglass is in multiple pieces and these sit between the cross members. The front layer is a single piece per panel.

The rear of the panel has cheap black fabric stapled to the frame. The last part of the process is to wrap the front in fabric and apply lots of staples ! They're typically about 1" apart all around the panel.

I used 3/4" wide velcro to secure the panels to the walls and column framing. Each panel has either 6 or 8 pieces of 2" long velcro depending on the panel size. The velcro is self adhesive to the walls and stapled onto the column frames and the back of the panels.

Does that help ?

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I did it on the cheap with mdf boards from Home Depot, 705frk or 703, and only wrapped the front of the panels. His look better though!
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I should have added that it took me 3-400 hours to do all the panels and column covers !

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I probably was at 1/2 that. Wow I know I got pissed at myself at the end for making them so complexx so I can't imagine your frustration Peter!
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Peter:

If I recall, Dennis Erskine was involed in the design of your room. Do any of these panels cover up other kinds of acoustic treament (like diffusion, for example)?

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IIRC he had perfasborbers that kinda did a diffuse and absorb combo, and the heavy plastic sheets make them some sort of bass trap. Pretty cool to do it that way but I imsgine not cheap!
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I probably was at 1/2 that. Wow I know I got pissed at myself at the end for making them so complexx so I can't imagine your frustration Peter!
Not really frustration ... but I was well and truly over it by the end ... plus it was nice to have the garage back.

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Peter:

If I recall, Dennis Erskine was involed in the design of your room. Do any of these panels cover up other kinds of acoustic treament (like diffusion, for example)?
Chuck,

Every panel you see has some form of acoustic treatment behind it. Dennis spec'd three different types of panels and mapped where each was to be placed.

One of them is from QuestAI. It used to be called Perf-Sorber but now appears to be called Q-Perf. See here for the brochure. It is a combination diffusor / absorber.

Dennis helped me DIY the other two types of panels.

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IIRC he had perfasborbers that kinda did a diffuse and absorb combo, and the heavy plastic sheets make them some sort of bass trap. Pretty cool to do it that way but I imagine not cheap!
Yep ... the Q-Perf is quite expensive. Luckily there is a company here that makes it under licence so at least I saved on the transport costs. Here it is again from way up-thread ...



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Chuck,

Every panel you see has some form of acoustic treatment behind it. Dennis spec'd three different types of panels and mapped where each was to be placed.

One of them is from QuestAI. It used to be called Perf-Sorber but now appears to be called Q-Perf. See here for the brochure. It is a combination diffusor / absorber.

Dennis helped me DIY the other two types of panels.

Cheers,
And that is my confusion. You noted above that every panel had 2 inches of acoustic material in it and then placed some in front of other acoustic products??

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